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How much would you pay for a brand new '94 RX7?
So turns out there is a Mazda dealer local to me that has a new 1994 Montego Blue touring RX7. It's never been registered, and has something like 200kms on it. Unfortunately it's a slushbox but I'm still mildly interested in possibly picking it up and hiding it away for a long time :D. I haven't heard back from the sales dept yet, but how much would you think it is worth?
It's never been registered, and still hold the full factory warranty. |
I would buy for $35k (US)
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$18k USD.
Seriously. I don't see why anyone would pay more than that for a stock RX7 considering the cars which you can purchase today for over $20k. |
I wouldn't pay more than $8k for an automatic. :)
One a more serious note, I'd pay about $30k if it were a manual, 1995 R2 with that few miles. I don't think it makes sense paying much of a premium for the least popular colour - but the automatic is the real desirability killer. Yes, it can be swapped but then the car would no longer be original. |
wait ... automatic.. I would pass or other -10k right there.
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Ok, just go off the line with one of the sales guys there...
It's a brand new 1994. Has the window sticker on it still. It's Montego Blue and Auto. It's got 200 MILES on it... the car is originally out of Florida. They are asking $39,900 + tax (CAD). It still has the full factory warranty (whatever that was)... Since it was originally a US car, it can be imported back to the USA... just a FYI. Too much $ for me right now especially since it's an auto. If it was low 30's I would think about picking it up, but that extra 9k is enough to get my current FD up and running again so I don't think it's feasible at this time. |
No way, thats a bunch of bull. To me, its the auto that kills it. I can't imagine an automatic cherry FD being desirable at all. There was a car with 2k miles that was going for around 20k I believe and it was a SSM, red interior manual car. I think thats much better.
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Even though it hasn't been registered, I'm hard pressed to believe that you can show up to the dealer with a 15 year old car and say "motor blew cause is hasn't been drivin in 10 years, but you're fix it for free cause I'm under warranty." Perhaps I'm wrong though.
On price, all depends on what you're trying to get out of it. At this point in my life I'd rather get a shell cause I'm gonna replace everything anyway.... |
Originally Posted by Supernaut
(Post 9670972)
No way, thats a bunch of bull. To me, its the auto that kills it. I can't imagine an automatic cherry FD being desirable at all. There was a car with 2k miles that was going for around 20k I believe and it was a SSM, red interior manual car. I think thats much better.
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I wouldn't buy an auto unless I had another FD to change things over, but then half of the reason of buying a brand new rx7 goes out the window. For a manual I'd pay a lot, I don't know the prices in US but I'd pay as much as a brand new rx8/s2000/350z etc.
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I don't see how it could still be under warranty either, seeing as it's 15 years old. Warranties aren't usually "20 year 200,000 miles" or anything like that.
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As long as the sale is registered legally as a new oem Mazda... the the warranty it was produced under applies.
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Yes but aren't some parts discontinued? I think it's more to do with the dealer then Mazda, cause I'm sure Mazda wouldn't like any dealers not selling some cars for 15 years. On the other hand the warranty applies from the date of invoice. I think they'd sell that car under special conditions or make you sign something accepting no warranty or you're aware that some parts may not be available etc.
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Originally Posted by Brian S.
(Post 9671153)
Is this SSM/red interior car still available? 20k sounds like a steal.
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Originally Posted by JStrib
(Post 9671175)
I don't see how it could still be under warranty either, seeing as it's 15 years old. Warranties aren't usually "20 year 200,000 miles" or anything like that.
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Originally Posted by Alpsta
(Post 9671209)
Yes but aren't some parts discontinued? I think it's more to do with the dealer then Mazda, cause I'm sure Mazda wouldn't like any dealers not selling some cars for 15 years. On the other hand the warranty applies from the date of invoice. I think they'd sell that car under special conditions or make you sign something accepting no warranty or you're aware that some parts may not be available etc.
Warranty starts at registration date. We've had some 02/03 Yamaha motorcycles which I've sold recently. They all still had a full factory warranty starting on registration date. I spoke with them in person. It is infact a full FACTORY warranty, not a dealer warranty. |
50k miles touring package 17k w/o taxes
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Originally Posted by bc_fd3s
(Post 9671307)
I sold cars for a living and now motorcycles.
Warranty starts at registration date. We've had some 02/03 Yamaha motorcycles which I've sold recently. They all still had a full factory warranty starting on registration date. I spoke with them in person. It is infact a full FACTORY warranty, not a dealer warranty. |
Originally Posted by Supernaut
(Post 9671239)
It was in the FS vehicle section. I believe the car was in detroit if memory serves me right. It was a base. Please don't buy it unless you keep it mint. There are so few cars in that condition.
I found the silver one in the classifieds. It has around 6k miles and he wants $30k. |
i misunderstood the post, my mistake. i would say 20k, no more
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that car was around the corner from me at Lehman Mazda, Back then it was Marlin Mazda
How did it make it all the way to BC? It must have been trailered. The owner of the dealership had it and kept in the showroom I was under the impression it was 95. Which Vancouver Mazda dealer has it? I may go see it next week when Im there for Xmas Holidaze.. |
Originally Posted by bc_fd3s
(Post 9671300)
yes, but it takes effect when the unit is registered.
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I wonder if its had the same coolant in it for 15 years....
I would treat it like any other rex to be honest. You will get more for your money elsewhere :) |
Originally Posted by Mahjik
(Post 9670916)
$18k USD.
Seriously. I don't see why anyone would pay more than that for a stock RX7 considering the cars which you can purchase today for over $20k. Worst color with a slush box. I wouldn't even give you $12k because I consider the stock car to be flawed in many ways, you can plan on starting to replace stuff as soon as you get it home. |
Originally Posted by Alpsta
(Post 9671209)
Yes but aren't some parts discontinued? I think it's more to do with the dealer then Mazda, cause I'm sure Mazda wouldn't like any dealers not selling some cars for 15 years. On the other hand the warranty applies from the date of invoice. I think they'd sell that car under special conditions or make you sign something accepting no warranty or you're aware that some parts may not be available etc.
Originally Posted by Alpsta
(Post 9671341)
Ok, I'm not arguing with that, what I'm asking is how can a factory fix a 15yo car under warranty if discontinued parts are needed for the repair? Do they manufacture the part again for 1 person, do they find an alternative like 2nd hand or aftermarket? Don't they have to use OEM parts?
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Double Post
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FWIW, we paid $29,150 in September '94 for our new Chaste White '94 5-speed with PEP. This was through a fleet sales guy who got the car for us from a dealer. Just another data point...
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The warranty will only be good at a Mazda Dealer. There are very few mechanics, at Mazda dealerships, that have training to work on these cars. That makes a factory warranty almost worthless.
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Originally Posted by wstrohm
(Post 9672191)
FWIW, we paid $29,150 in September '94 for our new Chaste White '94 5-speed with PEP. This was through a fleet sales guy who got the car for us from a dealer. Just another data point...
Define 'new'. And who is this 'we', Kemo Sabe? |
Originally Posted by moconnor
(Post 9672238)
Blech blue, shlushbox.
x1000, if you buy it you will own the least wanted fd in history, 15 yrs at the dealership and still can't convince anyone to take it home lol |
wouldn't drop a penny over 25 on it, and that's only because it's got so low mileage, IMO it's not even worth it. that silver with red leather one on the other hand...
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Yea I never knew why it never sold. I'm glad it didn't actually. It belongs with the owner. He has taken such good care of it. If I know there are people like that keeping their cars cherry, it makes me feel better about other people modding and racing their cars. If I ever found a cherry 95, I don't know what I would sell or do to get one.
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Just under 40k plus taxes is a hugh rip off. It would be super nice to have such a low mileage chassis with brand new bushings etc, but the pain of swapping to a 5 spd and the cost dont justify the car condition. Especially now days with the economy how is it you can find steals for cars all over. Hell for that much you can pick up lightly used C6 vettes all day long that still have some factory warrenty left. Plus the many other sports cars that are newer than the fd.
I would rather spend 15-20k on a good condition FD, then throw 10+k into mods and reliability fixes. Someday that car will be worth something if it doesnt get miles racked up on it. |
Originally Posted by Cgotto6
(Post 9673062)
Someday that car will be worth something if it doesnt get miles racked up on it.
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Originally Posted by Supernaut
(Post 9673128)
Converting it to manual would bring down the value considerably.
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a cool article written by the head of appraisals at ICBC (BC's insurance company)
Column: Collector Classics Source: Canwest News Service People frequently ask about the collector cars of the future. All I can offer an educated guess, so don't rush out and start stockpiling vehicles based on that! The current boom in the collector car market, like any other market, has its peaks and valleys -- the trend of sky-high values seemed to peak in 2005. The market has been driven by the three groups of the baby-boomer generation, with the most popular vehicles being the muscle cars and European sports cars. I have a feeling, just like the boomer generation, the muscle car market will have a sell-by date and the future collector vehicles will appeal to the Generations X and Y. The Gen X group is quite different from the boomers. Its members are not prepared to wait and want everything now, so they have more than likely experienced owning a BMW M3 or a Corvette Z06. It is not in their nature to hold onto such vehicles, as it is important to be seen in the latest and greatest thing on wheels, so it is highly unlikely that they will still own one of these cars 30 years from now. That is when they will experience life passing them by and will be prepared to pay ten times what they had, to own one of those same cars again. Does this sound familiar? So here is a list of my choices: BMW M3, Acura Integra Type "R", third generation Mazda RX-7 twin-turbo, Mazda Miata, Subaru WRX STi, Acura NSX, Nissan GTR, Toyota MR2, Mitsubishi Evo, and for the off-road collector, the Toyota FJ cruiser. The domestic list will include the Dodge Viper SRT10, Corvette ZR1, Hemi Challenger, Camaro and Shelby Mustang, and for those wanting a fast sedan, the Cadillac CTS-V or the Chrysler 300C SRT8. The affordable classics might include the reasonably rust free Pontiac Fiero GT and the Pontiac Solstice. The future Edsel is the Pontiac Aztec with the optional tent! They all used to laugh at the Edsel and look who's laughing now-- Edsel owners, all the way to the bank. If any of the above are manual transmission cars, that will also be a novelty, as I see the manual transmission being phased out in the next 10 years. If you still have the skill to use a stick shift, you will be a true gearhead hero. Nigel Matthews is the specialty-vehicle program manager for the Insurance Corp. of B.C's. Collector Car program. He assists enthusiasts in licensing and insurance of antique and collector vehicles. Learn more about the program by typing "collector car" |
Originally Posted by Supernaut
(Post 9673128)
I somehow doubt this. I think the car would most definitely appreciate if it was originally manual. Somehow I doubt that many car collectors would pay a handsome sum for an automatic FD. Converting it to manual would bring down the value considerably.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
(Post 9673144)
I've seen you post this a few times Mr Choi, but I'm not sure I agree. Under what data points do you offer such an assumption?
Plus, when we see a converted car now it kind of irks us. Who did the conversion? How was it done? Time to low ball.
Originally Posted by Cgotto6
(Post 9673389)
Not saying it would be 100k or anything. But in 15-20 so years with low mileage I could see it up near 50k.
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Originally Posted by cgotto6
(Post 9673062)
i would rather spend 15-20k on a good condition fd, then throw 10+k into mods and reliability fixes.
Imagine what you could end up with if you started with a used FD and modded it until you spent $40k. |
first off, i believe ur talking about the 7 at wolfe mazda out in langely or somethin, the one that was purchased on ebay for some ridiculous price like 50K..
if you search you will the car has been discussed on the forums before. I was under the assumption they werent going to sell it, was suppose to be a show piece forthe showroom ( that was before the recession though) ive seen it in person at the auto show in BC place. nothing special really especially since its auto and super stock, right down to the AST etc. i wouldnt buy a stock FD like that unless i had the $$$ and patience to leave it in the garage for another 20-30 yrs... lol |
Originally Posted by habu2
(Post 9673469)
+1
Imagine what you could end up with if you started with a used FD and modded it until you spent $40k. |
I would rather spend 40k on a new Rx7 then any other car, like everyone I prefer rocking gears, but I could deal with an auto if it was brand new!
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wow 40k ? that's a lot of money.. i would rather buy a z06 or buy a used rx7 for around 10k and drop a 20b
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Originally Posted by bewtew
(Post 9676265)
wow 40k ? that's a lot of money.. i would rather buy a z06 or buy a used rx7 for around 10k and drop a 20b
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Originally Posted by bc_fd3s
(Post 9670887)
So turns out there is a Mazda dealer local to me that has a new 1994 Montego Blue touring RX7. It's never been registered, and has something like 200kms on it. Unfortunately it's a slushbox but I'm still mildly interested in possibly picking it up and hiding it away for a long time :D. I haven't heard back from the sales dept yet, but how much would you think it is worth?
It's never been registered, and still hold the full factory warranty. |
Originally Posted by pumpgas
(Post 9676567)
i'm not sure but i don't think you could warranty register a us version in canada. we can't lookup parts for canada models. it's totally different for parts and service, the vin # will not register in our computer. that's why you have to go ebay to get canadian model parts. i could be wrong ? anyone ?
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It is possible to bring in a US Car but Transport Canada will make you modify the bumpers supports and add daytime running lights....
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warranty is not in effect since it is a US model
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I think that price is a little steep considering that the owner of that rare Pearly White FD couldn't sell it for 20k. That dealership thinks that FD is more of a gem than it is.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=pearly I saw another Chaste White FD auto in NoCal for sale last spring, not the same mileage (I think it had around 50k) but it was in excellent condition. That car sat for months on autotrader, went from 15k to 12k, then I don't know where. |
Originally Posted by moosejaw
(Post 9677566)
It is possible to bring in a US Car but Transport Canada will make you modify the bumpers supports and add daytime running lights....
My car was from Portland and all I did was some DR lights, an inspection and I was good to insure. |
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