Have you ever taken a C5...
 

...with your FD with basic mods such as:

DP, Catback, SMIC, Intakes, PFC, and know how to drive/shift.

Or the FD needs more mod to run against C5 or C5 ZO6

TIA

yup with just cb,dp,k&n filter

Cool. From a roll or dead stop?

Must have been a poorly driven automatic one then. 6-speed C5s trap 110+. I don't ever remember seeing a cb/dp car trapping 110, not even close.

Oh Yeah, I have gone up aginst several C5's on the track, no C6's yet though. I was able to out break, corner, and acclerate just about one of them. And my FD is rather prudently tuned: Intake, DP and Cat-back, with slightly ported turbos. The C5- Z06 is a beast and with my mods, It takes a good ammount of effort to hang on to the back bumper of one.

This says a lot for the FD, a 13 year old car with 150K miles on the chassie can keep up with a bran new $50,000 american made supercar. Oh, and I almost forgot, its only a 1.3L engine. That pisses off every V8 owner when you tell them that!

I was able to dust a few at VIR in my old car; might not have been as cazy as I am though :)

Old mods:

PFC PFS tuned at 13psi at 329
HF cat
Cat back
M2 large IC
1200CC injectors
open intake
many other goodies, but that's pretty much it. I also took a C6 down and a 360 Modena. I'll have to post some video. :)

Only a very good or very lucky driver could beat a stock C5 if the FD has only basic mods. Otherwise, the HP/weight ratios make the C5 quicker in a drag race. On a twisty track, the match is closer because the FD is faster handling. The Z06 is in a different league than either car, however.

In 2003 I beat 2 ZO6s at the drag strip & my car is pretty much PFS basic mods.

I wouldn't call PFS mods "basic".

By basic, tphan said "DP, Catback, SMIC, Intakes, PFC"

is a ported motor still basic? i cant remember seeing a Stock vette that was ever interested in doing anything other than pushing the old white guy inside it around. all the ones that will play have mods from what i have seen

Hmm well my FD has basic mods. M2 stage 3 + suspension. Thats the M2 ecu tuned for 12 psi, upgraded SMIC, DP, Exhaust, M2 intake, and non seq stockers and puts down 315 at the wheels with 301 ft/lbs torque (back when the motor was healthy). I had NO problem running stock C5 vettes. These are BASIC mods and im putting down just as much if not more than a C5 does at the wheels. Plus im lighter.

was it a stock c5 or a z06.<----fukin things are fast as shit....and have u seen the wrap sheet for the c6 z06...:drool: VIPER WHAT!!!!!!??????. ( on a side note the viper will always be my dream car tho..lol)

stock z06 is not THAT fast. if you are talking about stock FD with stock z06 yea, but i've taken out a few Vettes with my FD :)

dont get me wrong i love fds to death...
but any car that can pull 11 sec 1/4 out of the box is pretty fast...IMO.
just my .02

I'm an old white man who owns an FD, C5 and Forester XT. None are stock, but my concept of "basic" mods obviously is not the same as yours. If you include ported engines and upgraded intercoolers as basic, what do you consider to be advanced mods?

My FD has the basic bolt on "Mods". It's faster than a C5 but a Z06 C5 is another story. I'm very close to the same speed in the straights. But if the Z06 is well driven and running tires with as much grip as mine then I can't really pass it at the track.

The last track day I was at there was a C6 Z06 and Ferarri F430. Both pulled on a me pretty darn well in the straights. I was only able to pass later in the twisties because they were on street tires and I had race tires.

I dont consider myself a professional driver by any means. I did however leave all the suppension/ drivetrain mods out and, I didnt want to get into a pissing match of bolt-ons. When I am the track the car is slightly stripped (pasanger seat, spare tire, etc), not to mention my biggest wepon, ADVAN a048 sticky ickies on the front and back.

I can out acclerate a stock C5, but aginst a Z06, I stand no chance from the top-end of third gear on. So then, on long, open track like RoadAmerica the Z06 will pull several car lengths on every stright but I make up the ground again in the breaking zones, which I can go into so much deeper.

There is one other thing I left out, I am a bit more aggresive at the track than the 50 year-old 300lb guy trying to work out his mid-life crisis in his shinny new Vet.

I have taken a c5 and an 04 z06 but I do have more than what most consider the basic first bolt on's.

Tim

I got a car length on a c6 with heads, cam, and exaust from 20 to 120 ish. I think he has 430 something at the wheels, and I was on low boost (10 lbs)

I have also ran a c5 auto, wasnt even a race.

A 20B GT42R car running 30psi....

I don't street race, so that's all my FD does too. :D

Vettes are fast. FD's are fast and can come close with some modification, but not your basic "reliability mods". In a drag, your going down, but in a track run or auto x you will hang. just my $0.02

-josh

Same here. Twice from a roll with the exact same mods.

Well...only if the FDs come with 1 more rotor, bigger turbos.

C5s has about 270 more cubes than 13B FDs.

I have beat C5's on a dig. The debate I have always had afterwards is whether the driver knew how to get it down the road (i.e., launched and shifted).

i sold my stock 98 c5 mn6 for my lastest fd.my fd has basic boltons ic,dp,intake,m2 ecu,hiflow cat,twinpower, cb.it is faster than my vette, and everyone that i took for a ride thinks so too.

You are joking right???

coolvette: I kept my 98 C5 because it was faster than my 94 FD, but I kept the FD too because it is more fun to drive. :biggrin: Time for more mods.

A Z06 will easily beat an FD.

3100lbs 405 hp w/ much bigger tires
2800lbs 255hp

Not even close.

If you're not making over 300rwhp you have no chance.

Of course this is only when considering equal drivers hehe :)

i beat a c5 with exhaust and intake was not a zo6 though

in what way? enlighten me.

TIA

Basic bolt ons at 11 or 12psi are good for approx 300 + rwhp so you should easily beat a c5 but a Z would be a close competitor. I know it's only 40 more hp but it's about 200lbs lighter and it's much better at putting the power down because of the tires.

Would a stock FD with just intakes, dp, catback, and non-sequential twins @ 10psi take a C5? Z06?

C6 maybe?

Cause in my old Turbo II @ only 10-12psi which had me at roughly 270rwhp beat C5's all day, Z06's were close, and I owned Evo's, 350Z's, S2000's, '03 Cobra's, and even some WS6's. My brother who, in his SR'd S13 hatchback 240SX even pulled on a 402hp Camaro SS, and the only thing his 240SX had over my FC was low-end torque. He couldn't even pull on me until he turned it up to 15psi on his T-28 turbo, and even then, he pulled maybe two cars near the end of 3rd gear.

Only thing that beat me was a super-charged and modded mid-90's Cobra from just a 1st-2nd gear roll (at which my FC only got like 8-9psi anyways), and he only pulled a car.

In my FD @ 8psi on my current setup I got beat by a modded WS6 from a 1st-2nd gear roll. He only pulled 1 1/2 cars on me.

8psi though...c'mon now...

This all coming from an FD and american muscle car lover.

the 1.3L claimed displacement only bothers the uninformed V8 owner that doesn't understand how both engines operate. The displacement comparison is a tad skewed. :)
50K for a C5? or did I miss something?
A relatively cheap H/C package on an LS1 powerplant can warrant some nasty timeslips so to say that a C5 isn't worthy in comparison to the FD is a gross misjudgement.

Let me start:

1.) Cubic inches aren't everthing.

I have a friend with a C6 and with a drag launch I've taken him a few times past 60 there pretty close. The vette has the advantage with launches though just about anyone can get a sub 5 second 0-60 every time rev 2500 drop the clutch and hang on next shift 62mph. As for rolling starts he kills me every time.

Yeah i bend zo6's over and hump them but im pretty modded
big port, t-78, 3-row fmic, power fc, kazz, rear end, 1600cc sec, 550 pri, fuel cell, blah blah blah. Daily driven too....when it runs :uh:

Wow I'd Cry if I was beat by an FD. As a Corvette owner we take alot of pride and put ALOT of money into our corvettes.

Yea... none of us put time or money into our FDs...

what do you have done to your brakes? stock fd brakes are great and everything, but vette brakes are the shit!

Yes, a modded fd(mine) will beat a stock c5.I never got to mod my c5 because it was a lemon,and i couldnt keep it out of the dealership.I do think that a stock c5 with just a 150 shot of nos would prob beat me .They run great on it.

Hell my fd puts the smack down on vipers and 911 twin turbos, see sig for mods.

I beat a C5 at auto-x in my class... by 0.09 seconds. Decent driver.. still need a little more power and rubber to beat the better ones though.

I'm aiming for 350+ whp for '06.

My Kill List
 

I have beaten all of the below...thats worth meantioning

6 Corvettes (both c-5 and zo6 or what what ever that is)
3 boxters
1 carrea
3 SVT mustangs
2 Supra's
2 Evos
4+ SRT-4's
1 3000gtvr4 heavily moded
1 300zx TT lotz o mods (my brother) after I fixed my boost leak...



Got destroyed by the following...

1 Lincnfelter (how ever thats spelt) Vette....that wasent funny....
1 300zx TT lotz o mods (my brother)
1 lambo contash with huge aftermarket TT (1000+hp) also wasnt funny...

very few cars i know of can even compete with a twin turbo vette.
i can't wait till they start doing that shit with the c6's.

hell, i can't wait 'till i can afford a vette :p:

So true. My buddy Z06 brakes are the SHIT! After two full lap at Luguna Seca, the brakes still acts the same. My FD brakes sucks balls however.

fd brakes are awesome for the first couple of stops :p:

but the car is 10-12 years old. i'm sure the brakes will be better if mazda comes out with a "new" rx7. we'd be better off comparing the fd brakes to a c4 vette to make it a little more fair.