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existanzrx7 06-11-18 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by the one (Post 12280937)
I would use strong caution with Elite and Sal/Sam. He and his shop are not what they claim. Funny how no one can speak of any of the product they produce. Intakes noting. Just use caution if you plan on dealing with this Shop.

Please share your bad experience if you had one. I been thinking of getting some work done there. But now you got me thinking. I my self had a really really bad experience with A spec when they were still in business. I would not even think twice of having anything done ever again by A spec. Good thing they went out of business fking crooks. Carma definitely caught up with them. GOOD

the one 06-11-18 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by existanzrx7 (Post 12280957)


Please share your bad experience if you had one. I been thinking of getting some work done there. But now you got me thinking. I my self had a really really bad experience with A spec when they were still in business. I would not even think twice of having anything done ever again by A spec. Good thing they went out of business fking crooks. Carma definitely caught up with them. GOOD

Missing parts!! I had before I dropped off my car. On top of random work done I was unaware of, till going through the car.
This shop and owner are completely untrustworthy. Sal/Sam has a past of pulling off parts from cars. It’s here on the forums. Other BiG Members have had the same experience.
not going in to much more
JUST USE STRONG CAUTION DEALING WITH HIM.

existanzrx7 06-11-18 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by the one (Post 12280963)


Missing parts!! I had before I dropped off my car. On top of random work done I was unaware of, till going through the car.
This shop and owner are completely untrustworthy. Sal/Sam has a past of pulling off parts from cars. It’s here on the forums. Other BiG Members have had the same experience.
not going in to much more
JUST USE STRONG CAUTION DEALING WITH HIM.

Wow sounds just like my experience with A spec. I payed for a Mazda reman and they installed a used engine not to mention a lot of missing parts. That really sucks looks like I will be taking my business to Banzai instead, a little of a drive but i don’t want to risk going thew all of that bs. I think is good that your sharing so other people can think twice before spending their hard earned cash with them and hopefully Elite gets the hint that they need to stop that crap before they end up like A spec. Thanks

the one 06-11-18 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by existanzrx7 (Post 12280985)


Wow sounds just like my experience with A spec. I payed for a Mazda reman and they installed a used engine not to mention a lot of missing parts. That really sucks looks like I will be taking my business to Banzai instead, a little of a drive but i don’t want to risk going thew all of that bs. I think is good that your sharing so other people can think twice before spending their hard earned cash with them and hopefully Elite gets the hint that they need to stop that crap before they end up like A spec. Thanks


There are options for us. Elite has really no expertise in my book. Just another strip and rip shop. Pulling working disscountied parts off of paying customers cars for other projects. Guess that’s why I was never told about certain things.. JUST AVOID THIS SHOP


IRPerformance 06-12-18 10:20 AM

Greddy hands down. It is the most complete kit and comes with everything you need for installation. I can make the ac and power steering all work without any issues. Like stated above, there are several kit versions depending on what you need and I've seen them as low as $2300 for the basic layout which we use for single turbos. Fab up the hot side piping to your specific turbo and you are done. If you want something cheaper get the CX or make your own but the amount of time it takes is usually not worth it.

403rx7 06-12-18 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by IRPerformance (Post 12281092)
Greddy hands down. It is the most complete kit and comes with everything you need for installation. I can make the ac and power steering all work without any issues. Like stated above, there are several kit versions depending on what you need and I've seen them as low as $2300 for the basic layout which we use for single turbos. Fab up the hot side piping to your specific turbo and you are done. If you want something cheaper get the CX or make your own but the amount of time it takes is usually not worth it.

So the GReddy kit comes with coolant piping and connections? I was hoping to keep A/C for this but looking now it seems the only manufactured way of doing it is using the Revolution kit, unless doing custom AC lines and condenser setup

IRPerformance 06-12-18 06:44 PM

Yes. It includes piping and hoses designed to be used with modification of the stock hoses. Its not a difficult install, just a bit time consuming.

mkiv98 06-14-18 04:43 AM

How would you guys compare the greddy and the HKS?

Banzai-Racing 06-14-18 06:32 AM

HKS is nice, it is a larger core, but it does not come with a radiator or intake. So again when comparing, the Greddy is the most complete kit for the best price.

HKS kit
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...068ede6e6a.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f68bc736ba.jpg

existanzrx7 06-15-18 08:12 PM

I didn’t see anything on this thread about the Defined auto works v mount kit. The price isn’t bad and the kit doesn’t look like crap. Anyone rocking one?

http://definedautoworks.com/mazda-rx..._radiator.html

kensin 06-16-18 12:04 AM

You get what you pay for when its about v mounts.

Mrmatt3465 06-16-18 12:46 AM

I mean the ducting looks good on the defined kit. But no option to keep AC is a killer for sure. Not to mention that radiator drain on the defined kit. :scratch:

If you need a V mount but can’t afford one, save your money until you can buy the GReddy kit. I have this kit and I have a ton of install pics in my build. AC is kept and charged with R12.

Matt


R-R-Rx7 06-16-18 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing (Post 12281522)
HKS is nice, it is a larger core, but it does not come with a radiator or intake. So again when comparing, the Greddy is the most complete kit for the best price.

HKS kit
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...068ede6e6a.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f68bc736ba.jpg

i have the hks vmount kit.. you will love it after its mounted... until then get ready to use every curseword available to mankind ... it is not very well thought out, very incomplete, and requires modifications. Hks should have included an aluminum radiator without those bs brackets to use the oem fans in the opposite direction.

i would buy it again though now that i know what i am dealing with.. if you dont want to go through that bs route that i went through get the greddy

403rx7 06-19-18 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mrmatt3465 (Post 12281954)
I mean the ducting looks good on the defined kit. But no option to keep AC is a killer for sure. Not to mention that radiator drain on the defined kit. :scratch:

If you need a V mount but can’t afford one, save your money until you can buy the GReddy kit. I have this kit and I have a ton of install pics in my build. AC is kept and charged with R12.

Matt



Did the GReddy kit facilitate the keeping of the A/C? or was that a custom job on your part?

IRPerformance 06-19-18 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by 403rx7 (Post 12282651)
Did the GReddy kit facilitate the keeping of the A/C? or was that a custom job on your part?

The ac can be made to work with the greddy kit without an issue. I've installed over 20 of them. It takes some careful bending of the lines but is totally doable at home with a propane torch to heat up the lines and tubing bender. The instructions give you pictures as to the shape the lines need to be bent to. The kit does come with one ac line but it does not work on us models and is not needed.

jpr210 06-19-18 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by existanzrx7 (Post 12281924)
I didn’t see anything on this thread about the Defined auto works v mount kit. The price isn’t bad and the kit doesn’t look like crap. Anyone rocking one?

http://definedautoworks.com/mazda-rx..._radiator.html

I have one installed in my 94 FD. The kit is complete and of good quality. The intercooler has a large core but the end tanks are not the best for even air distribution on the core. The piping transition to the core is rather abrupt but otherwise OK. It works fine and the price is right. Just be prepared to wait for it when you ordered; mine order took about 7 weeks to fill.

Jpr

jpr210 06-19-18 12:11 PM

Are these guys as shady with the sale of their products? was eyeing getting their LIM and intake plenum but Im holding off until I get a better vibe.

Thanks

Jpr

KYPREO 06-19-18 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by jpr210 (Post 12282679)
was eyeing getting their LIM and intake plenum but Im holding off until I get a better vibe.

When the intake system was first about to be released, there was all kind of talk about Elite doing back to back performance comparisons. Howard Coleman on this forum offered to do it from memory. After many follow ups since nothing was ever published. There are lots of "feel-pinions" on how good they are, but to my knowledge no actual data to back up what changes it makes to power output and the overall power curve.

IRPerformance 06-20-18 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by KYPREO (Post 12282824)
When the intake system was first about to be released, there was all kind of talk about Elite doing back to back performance comparisons. Howard Coleman on this forum offered to do it from memory. After many follow ups since nothing was ever published. There are lots of "feel-pinions" on how good they are, but to my knowledge no actual data to back up what changes it makes to power output and the overall power curve.

Whenever I get a chance to get back on our shop car I'm going to do an unbiased comparison. Will do back to back dyno runs with the Elite intake system and the stock upper with an Xcessive lower. The only thing that will be adjusted is the afr to the same target if needed.

TomU 06-20-18 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by IRPerformance (Post 12282905)
Whenever I get a chance to get back on our shop car I'm going to do an unbiased comparison. Will do back to back dyno runs with the Elite intake system and the stock upper with an Xcessive lower. The only thing that will be adjusted is the afr to the same target if needed.

I (and assume a lot of people) will be interested in this info

the one 06-20-18 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by KYPREO (Post 12282824)
When the intake system was first about to be released, there was all kind of talk about Elite doing back to back performance comparisons. Howard Coleman on this forum offered to do it from memory. After many follow ups since nothing was ever published. There are lots of "feel-pinions" on how good they are, but to my knowledge no actual data to back up what changes it makes to power output and the overall power curve.


Goes to show this shop and owner are not what they claim. They can not provide information about their own products. This was over 2 yrs ago. They wanted to make a comparison. Funny how know one had any info still on these.
Good luck to anyone willing to deal with this Shop.

dguy 06-21-18 01:15 AM

I'm willing to use our facilities to confirm whatever IRP finds. Not that I'd disagree but it might be nice to have two different entities testing. I also would be willing to throw it on a flow bench. I'm not willing to buy it just to give you guys info however :P

IRPerformance 06-21-18 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by dguy (Post 12283102)
I'm willing to use our facilities to confirm whatever IRP finds. Not that I'd disagree but it might be nice to have two different entities testing. I also would be willing to throw it on a flow bench. I'm not willing to buy it just to give you guys info however :P

I agree. I have a Mustang Dyno fyi. Not sure what you plan to use. Technically it shouldn't matter as what were are looking at is the hp difference and power curve between stock and aftermarket manifolds.

Banzai-Racing 06-21-18 10:35 AM

I would gladly test the intake if someone wants to bring one in, I will do it for free.

Typically when a "shop" hypes something, then does not produce any data, it is because the product had no R&D and when it was actually tested it under-performed. HP & TQ comparison data should have been released when the product was released to the public.

Just like Dguy, I have no intention of buying one for testing purposes.

jpr210 06-21-18 11:18 AM

My problem with it is not its performance. I have called more than 10 times to their shop phone and left messages with an interest for purchase and NEVER gotten a call back. I would imagine that getting the product you purchased would be even more difficult........

Jpr


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