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SARX7 01-04-02 01:25 PM

East Bear Light Kit Review
 
I recived my East Bear Light Kit from Wayne @ Phase2Motorsports last night, and I must say that he was very easy to deal with and did a good job keeping me informed on the status of my order.

Now on to the review :

It is a very well designed and constructed kit and came with all the nessesary wiring and fasteners. It is a plug 'n play kit it comes with a nice wiring harnes that plugs right into the stock headlight plugs, so no cutting or splicing is needed. The harnes also has a relay that attaches via the supplied connectors to the high beams so the stock lighting controls can activate the high beams.

The only modification for fitment you have to do is drill two holes per side into the metal support that runs behind the bumper. These are for the two screws that hold the front of the light cover (grey gel-coated fiberglass) in place, no other cutting is involved. The lights do sit above the hood line slightly and are quite a bit larger than I expected. These are two pluses in my book since it means a better light pattern.

Overall I'm very impresed with the quality of the kit.
I'll have to get some pics of it this weekend and put them up for everyone to see.

dclin 01-04-02 01:45 PM

Re: East Bear Light Kit Review
 

Originally posted by SARX7
I recived my East Bear Light Kit from Wayne @ Phase2Motorsports last night, and I must say that he was very easy to deal with and did a good job keeping me informed on the status of my order.

Now on to the review :

It is a very well designed and constructed kit and came with all the nessesary wiring and fasteners. It is a plug 'n play kit it comes with a nice wiring harnes that plugs right into the stock headlight plugs, so no cutting or splicing is needed. The harnes also has a relay that attaches via the supplied connectors to the high beams so the stock lighting controls can activate the high beams.

The only modification for fitment you have to do is drill two holes per side into the metal support that runs behind the bumper. These are for the two screws that hold the front of the light cover (grey gel-coated fiberglass) in place, no other cutting is involved. The lights do sit above the hood line slightly and are quite a bit larger than I expected. These are two pluses in my book since it means a better light pattern.

Overall I'm very impresed with the quality of the kit.
I'll have to get some pics of it this weekend and put them up for everyone to see.

Cool! Can you take pics of the light pattern, before and after if possible?

TIA!

SARX7 01-04-02 01:49 PM

yup I'll get full pics of the install and the light pattern after tonight or tomorrow.

black99 01-04-02 01:59 PM

just a real quick question how much did you pay for them from phase2??? I seen rxecret7.com has them , but they want 1300.00 a pair, just wondering if you got them cheaper or not..

cash money 01-04-02 02:38 PM


Originally posted by black99
just a real quick question how much did you pay for them from phase2??? I seen rxecret7.com has them , but they want 1300.00 a pair, just wondering if you got them cheaper or not..
1300 for a east bear? i have seen the east bear kit at takakaira for around 600 and there was a guy sellin them at rx7city.com for about the same price with units ready to ship

cash money 01-04-02 02:41 PM


Originally posted by black99
just a real quick question how much did you pay for them from phase2??? I seen rxecret7.com has them , but they want 1300.00 a pair, just wondering if you got them cheaper or not..
1300 for a east bear? i have seen the east bear kit at takakaira for around 600 and there was a guy sellin them at rx7city.com for about the same price with units ready to ship, but what was awhile ago, but i dunno

black99 01-04-02 02:55 PM

oh shit.. I forgot about takakaira, and I think I may be thinking about the wrong lights..

I am thinking of the run racing light kit..
http://www.rxecret7.com/runracligkit.html


this is the east bear kit you are talking about..




sorry guys, I got confused....

SARX7 01-04-02 03:35 PM

I got them for right about $600.

pics can be seen here http://www.phase2motortrend.com/pict...Blight-FD1.jpg

2FAST7S 01-04-02 04:44 PM

I just have one question... Is there a cover for this kit(as in the C-west/RE Amemiya)? Doesnt seem like it, just wondering.

SARX7 01-04-02 04:51 PM

Aope there isn't.
And honestly it's beter that way.

From what I've heard the C-West and ReAmemiya kits fog up.

trigeek37 01-05-02 04:16 PM

not to sound stupid, but what exactly do you mean by fog up? and do both the east bear and c-west kits come with standard size ligts that can be replaced? and which is brighter?

RyanREX 01-05-02 07:44 PM

Anything looks beter than the C-west kit. :p

legendrx7 01-05-02 07:45 PM

I'm dying to see the pics. I am strongly considering this kit right now. How long did it take for you to get them? How well do they light up the dark roads?

thanks,

Bacon 01-06-02 06:50 PM

Pics Pics PIcs..pppllleeezz:D

Zoomspeed 01-06-02 07:15 PM

What kind of bulbs do these use?

the_glass_man 01-06-02 09:43 PM


Originally posted by Zoomspeed
What kind of bulbs do these use?
Standard H3 Foglight bulbs like the RE Kit, I believe.

Zoomspeed 01-06-02 10:10 PM

You can get H3 HID kits can't you?

FDokinawa 01-07-02 04:38 AM


Originally posted by Bacon
Pics Pics PIcs..pppllleeezz:D
I have the kit...check it out

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/attach...&postid=316993

FDokinawa 01-07-02 04:46 AM

here's another one...

legendrx7 01-07-02 08:15 AM

FDokinawa: Thank you very much for the pics. They look very tight to me.

thanks,

chuck d.

SARX7 01-07-02 08:28 AM


Originally posted by trigeek37
not to sound stupid, but what exactly do you mean by fog up? and do both the east bear and c-west kits come with standard size ligts that can be replaced? and which is brighter?

By fog up I mean the plastic cover over the lights has a tendency to acumulate moisture and fog up. and you have to remove the cover to wipe the fog off.

The East Bear kit uses H3 bulbs and the C-West Kit uses Catz fog and drivng lights.

the ReAmemiya kit is very similar to the East Bear in that they have the same lights, but the ReAmemiya kit sits lower and a bit of cutting is required to fit them.

Bacon 01-07-02 10:29 AM

any chance for som low/ high beam pics @night on a long dark road???

also when u click on the high beams is it all 4 light on @ same time, or do u have to wire in a diode to do that?
thanks

jmseven 01-07-02 10:46 AM

does anyone have any pics of an FC with this kit?....good pics.

the_glass_man 01-07-02 12:15 PM


Originally posted by RyanREX
Anything looks beter than the C-west kit. :p
This is coming from someone that likes the Veilside wheels? :D
I can't wait for the right up on these. More Pics too please! :)

mile 01-07-02 08:49 PM

where can i buy
 
i am interested in this kit... but the only place i know to get is from jap.. and the kit is expensive as hell to have shipped. please send a web where i can get order..
i'm in ft. lauderdale FL.

mtjnr@aol.com

SARX7 01-08-02 08:43 AM

Go to www.phase2motortrend.com
they will handle the leg work and make it a lot easier for you.

legendrx7 01-08-02 11:18 AM

mile: Slava @ www.rotormotorsports.com can get you hooked up for about $600 shipped. They are of course on back order right now. Should take 2-3 weeks. Same deal at www.phase2motortrend.com

SARX7: I am still dying to see pics of your car with the light kit installed, please please please, with sugar on top :blue:. And I am also wanting to hear some input on how well the light kit works at night.

SARX7 01-08-02 01:57 PM

I'll be attempting to get pic's tonight.

The car is in poor shape right now since "the deer incident", but I'll get some pics anyway. :)

capt. bill1 01-08-02 09:39 PM

I have a question. How do you adjust the lights? With screws like stock lights?

SARX7 01-09-02 09:21 AM

Yes with 3 screws per lamp, just like stock.

No Pics yet sorry I'll try again today.

jimlab 01-09-02 03:26 PM

SARX7 are you sure that it's not 4 screws? Just based on the RE kit that I had, there were four "spring-loaded" corner adjustment screws per light, and these appear to be the same arrangement of the same lights.

I plan to use the pods from the East Bear kit but buy the Hella high and low beam lights mentioned in another thread which have true headlight beam patterns and can be converted to HID. There is no H3 HID kit, to my knowledge, but I haven't been checking lately. I also don't like the "C3-PO" look of the lights included with the East Bear and RE kit. :)

You can get a higher wattage H3 bulb 100/110W, but it will not improve anything but the output. These lights don't have proper beam dispersion and you will irritate other drivers if they're focused too high.

I also agree that the C-West kit, (which I've also owned) while high quality, (at least the pod) looks like crap. It looks cheap to me, probably because you can see the same lights on the *underside* of some 4x4's bumper. :)

The RE kit leaves a lot to be desired in its mounting scheme, which requires cutting and drilling sheet metal for the pod and light bracket. It is also difficult to remove the pod, because one fastener is up under the wheel liner. The lens is also permanent, unless you screw it in place, which looks like crap. I used windshield urethane for mine, so if you ever crack or break a cover, good luck getting it back off.

I initially started the first group purchase on the East Bear kit because it was a good starting point for adding different lights and had a better mounting scheme and didn't have the cover, which discolors with age, scratches easily, and fogs up. After the group purchase fell through, I decided to wait a bit, but I just ordered an East Bear kit from Phase 2 and was told that they're organizing another group purchase, so if you're interested, get in quick for the discount. Enrollment ends this week, apparently.

legendrx7 01-09-02 04:02 PM

I agree with you Jimlab. I have a set of the East Bears on order right now from rotormotorsports. I am planning (on down the road) to put in the Hellas http://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hella/headlamp.htm I think the Hellas will look MUCH better!

The website with the Hella's say that it is an H9 bulb for the high and low beam lights rated at 65W. I was not even thinking of the HID conversion, but that would be cool if it can be done. What do you think it would take to be converted to HID?

The Hella website does say and show that there are 3 adjustment screws for each light.

jimlab 01-09-02 04:06 PM

Here are the Hella lights that I was talking about using...

http://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hell...es/90mm-00.jpg

http://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hell...es/90mm-04.jpg

legendrx7 01-09-02 04:12 PM

Yup, those are the same ones that I listed in my last post. Much Nicer than the ones that come with the East Bear kit. :)

jimlab 01-09-02 04:16 PM


Originally posted by legendrx7
The website with the Hella's say that it is an H9 bulb for the high and low beam lights rated at 65W. I was not even thinking of the HID conversion, but that would be cool if it can be done. What do you think it would take to be converted to HID?
You can get a DS2 Xenon 90mm kit instead of the low-beams. I don't believe there is an H9 HID conversion kit, or at least I was not able to find one in several minutes of searching.


The Hella website does say and show that there are 3 adjustment screws for each light.
The Hellas are 3-screw adjustment (from the rear). The East Bear lights, if they're the same as the RE lights (and they appear to be) are a 4-screw adjustment from the front... the pod has to come off for them to be adjusted, in other words.

legendrx7 01-09-02 04:27 PM

Where can I look at this DS2 90mm Zenon kit?

thanks,

chuck d.

jimlab 01-09-02 07:03 PM

Sorry, D2S, not DS2. A moment of dyslexia... :)

http://secure15.dellhost.com/~d30022...hilips/HID.jpg

Philips' D2S Xenon bulb kit can be bought separately or with a 90mm housing. Here's an example of one housing...

http://www.hid.uk.com/images/ring4.jpg

And some more information on the D2S and D2R...

http://www.eur.lighting.philips.com/...non_range.html

SARX7 01-10-02 08:33 AM

Nope Jim, I'm positive the lights only use 3 screws per.

And yes the pod does have to come off to adjust the lights.

As Jim was saying the lights are very spotlightish, but this is still a tremendous improvement over stock.

I would be interested in trying a hella upgrade to get a better low beam pattern. As it is now the lights are good but there is always room for some improvement, especialy if I get a wider beam pattern out of it.

jimlab 01-10-02 12:21 PM


Originally posted by SARX7
Nope Jim, I'm positive the lights only use 3 screws per.
Interesting. They appear almost identical to the RE kit, so they must have improved it in some way.


As Jim was saying the lights are very spotlightish, but this is still a tremendous improvement over stock.
Agreed. :)

The higher wattage H3 bulbs aren't recommended for a light with a lexan cover, because of the heat produced, but that shouldn't be an issue with the East Bear kit for anyone who wants to stick with the "stock" lights in the kit.


I would be interested in trying a hella upgrade to get a better low beam pattern. As it is now the lights are good but there is always room for some improvement, especialy if I get a wider beam pattern out of it.
I just ordered a pair of low beam and a pair of high beam lights from Susquehanna MotorSports for about $260 ($60 per light, plus $6 per H9 connector to adapt the lighting harness to the new lights) shipped. When I get done playing with them, I'll post my findings. :)

SARX7 01-10-02 01:03 PM

here is a pic of the wiring harness I got from phase2's site

https://www.phase2motortrend.com/pic...Blight-FD2.jpg

and here a a couple more

https://www.phase2motortrend.com/pic...Blight-FD3.jpg

https://www.phase2motortrend.com/pic...Blight-FD1.jpg


I'll get some more of the lights installed on my car soon.

mile 01-10-02 01:38 PM

do they fit
 
do the lights from seq. motorsprots fit into the kit from east bear.. i mean does the 3 screw pettern match the pattern on the east bear kit and would it be a smooth switch.. they are both 90mm right??

jimlab 01-10-02 03:30 PM

Hard to say... no one has ever attempted to put the two together to my knowledge.

SARX7 01-11-02 10:22 AM

Ok I have Pic's I will post a link soon.

legendrx7 01-11-02 10:31 AM

Hey Jim, I sent an email to Philips Automotive lighting requesting information on the D2S and D2R lights. And they replied back with:

"Thank you for contacting us. The above lamps are only sold to Original Equipment manufacturers. For further information, please call Philips Automotive at 248-699-2290."

WTF? Do you know how we could get these?

SARX7 01-11-02 04:51 PM

Here are the pics, note the deer damage.
Just got the last bits of my new front end today, so it's off to the body shop the car goes.

Sorry about the size...


http://www.conehunter.com/pics/left_front.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/left_front_above.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/left_wiring.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/right_above.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/right_behind.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/right_front.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/right_screws.jpg

http://www.conehunter.com/pics/right_wiring.jpg

Mr. Stock 01-11-02 05:29 PM

Thanks for the pics SARX7.

How does the weight opf the Eastbear lights compare to stock?

Do you have any pics of the light pattern?

SARX7 01-14-02 08:33 AM

I'm working on Pics of the light pattern, I've been messing with the aim of the lights to get them perfect. Once I do I'll post pics.

The Kit is MUCH lighter than stock. I figure that there is a total of ~10 pounds for the entire kit. One side of the stock lighting is heavier than that.

legendrx7 01-14-02 08:48 AM

Thanks for posting the pics SARX7. I think they look very sharp! I can't wait to get my set.

Have you driven your car around at night yet? If so, how well did it light the road up? Better than stock?

thanks,

chuck d.

SARX7 01-14-02 10:08 AM

They are better than stock in distance lighting, but slightly worse in side to side lighting. This is mainly because how the sit in the light pods and also because they have more of a spot light pattern.

I would recomend a set of good fog lights to remedy this.

the_glass_man 01-17-02 05:32 PM

Any Pictures of the light pattern?
 
Did you get any pictures of the light pattern yet? Did you get them painted yet as well? I would love to see pictures of both if you get the time.

TIA


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