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poss 11-20-05 06:39 PM

Do you guys ever get tired of dumping money into your cars?
 
I'm sick of always "needing" to spend on money on this damn car! I'm not a perfectionist, but I like to have things work like they should and don't like half-ass solutions.

For instance, I just rebuilt my motor. I did it myself for about $1500. I can handle that every few years.

But, I'm now noticing that my pillowballs need to be replaced...again. About 50k-60k miles on them. I really should have replaced the boots when I did it the first time. I suspect old boots may have led to an "early" death. Plus my nylon bushings are starting to clunk also. Since my ball joints are getting up there in age, I may just replace the whole front a-arms since they come with new bushings. And get all new bushings for the rear.


(mazda motorsports)
FD01-34-350E - ARM(L),LOWER $319.35 $319.35
FD01-34-300E - ARM RT, LOWER $351.00 $351.00
FD01-34-250B - ARM LT, UPPER $181.60 $181.60
FD01-34-200B - ARM RT, UPPER $205.75 $205.75
FD01-28-710A - BUSH,DAMPER $34.00 $68.00
FD01-28-8C0A - BUSHING,RUBBER $37.15 $148.60
FD01-26-230 - BALL,PILLOW-RR LWR ARM $33.75 $202.50

Total $1,476.80

So in order to get my suspension back to "like new" condition, I'm looking at about $1600 with shipping, new pillow ball boots and this is assuming the numbers I checked are still good and prices haven't gone up.

Or I could just replace the bushings with stock and take a gamble on my ball joints being good and, once again assuming my numbers/prices are accurate, get away with the bargain price of ~$750.

Plus my stock diff has some play in it and really NEEDS to be replaced soon. A used TII unit will be another ~$250.

And to top it all off, I have developed an oil leak in the past week. I must not have got a good seal on the oil pan when I buttoned it up. :mad: I suppose that would be one of the benefits of not doing things yourself; others can be held accountable.

Not to mention that I bought one of Frank's triple gauge pods that is just sitting here because I haven't spent the ~$400 to fill it up with quality gauges.

I was thinking about getting a DVD player, or at least a CD player that will play MP3s, that's probably going on the back burner, again!

Sorry for the rant, it just seems like I'm always poor (for the last 4 years) because of the amount of money I am always dumping into this thing. I do have a decent paying job and thank god I do all my own work which has saved a TON of money. I don't ever do without, but it sucks not having any extra money to invest in something that appreciates, rather than my car which depreciates at a seemingly alarming rate.

Don't get me wrong, this car still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, but is it really worth it? I'm starting to think no.... :(

John Magnuson 11-20-05 06:57 PM

For the performance you get the FD is actually pretty cheap. If you want a cheap car to keep in perfect condition buy a regular daily driver type vehicle like a Honda or Toyota.

I know that any older car gets frustrating to maintain. But remember that even though the FD is now a 10+ year old car you'll need to spend at least $40K to go out and buy a new car that performs like the FD. That should make your suspension overhaul seem cheap.

mibad 11-20-05 07:01 PM

It could be worse, it could be a boat.

poss 11-20-05 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by mibad
It could be worse, it could be a boat.

haha :)



Oh and don't get me wrong, this thing is an animal! I just had an autocross today. My third consecutive "fastest time of the day" at the local Porsche club events, this time with the VW and corvette clubs invited. :D :dubs:

I just don't know if I should (or want to) keep dumping money in this thing.

Cgotto6 11-20-05 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by poss
haha :)



Oh and don't get me wrong, this thing is an animal! I just had an autocross today. My third consecutive "fastest time of the day" at the local Porsche club events, this time with the VW and corvette clubs invited. :D :dubs:

I just don't know if I should (or want to) keep dumping money in this thing.

You know you want to add to the money pit. Just give in to her. I can already calling mine calling my name....

CowsniperRX7 11-20-05 08:00 PM

These cars should suck me and fuck me for the kind of money spent on em.

Sgtblue 11-20-05 08:18 PM

Ryan,
Maybe it would help to go out and look at say, a nice used (2002 or newer) C5 ZO6. [Which probably isn't the equal, but at least in the ball park of your car in terms of performance]. Now on top of initial purchase price, factor in the sales tax, property tax and higher insurance. Now add in what would probably be accelerated depreciation over what your experiencing with the FD. And then don't forget the loss of a certain amount of exclusivity/uniqueness associated with it. And never forget that another car isn't without it's own costs of maintenance and upgrades.

I don't know, at least it always helps me. :)

Rotofire 11-20-05 08:38 PM

draw a triangle...at each point of the triangle write: "cheap" "fast" and "reliable" A well known fact is that you can only have two of the three..it's up to you to choose which too. If you want fast and cheap..it's not reliable....reliable and cheap...it's not fast....fast and reliable...it's not cheap.


Mike

tphan 11-20-05 08:41 PM

not when resources are available...and life is short, enjoy, especially when you can afford it.

silverTRD 11-20-05 09:25 PM

what else am i gonna spend my money on? my girlfriend? not likely...lol

YoshiFD3S 11-20-05 09:30 PM

I'm a little pissed off myself.

Now, I've owned turbo rotary before. I had a T2 pushing 300rwhp, runnin rock-solid, no problems, no leaks, no nothing.

I did a bunch of research into FD's in the past, and just as I was looking into buying one.

But obviously jumping into an FD for the first time at all, ugh....tons of problems.

The seller didn't let me know anything until he drove the car 5 hours to bring it to me, to the finance office.

Next thing I know, he lists problem after problem, and doesn't even tell me about the BOOST problem.

It was creeping from 10psi to 12psi, then bam, fuel cut. God.

Now that I've re-arranged the vacuum lines on the stock seq. twins, and now I'm only getting like 7psi, and then it'll SOMETIMES jump to like 9 1/2psi around 5k.

I feel like a fkin' idiot. I guess I was overwhealmed by the car, and the conditions of the car that I was promised, and I dunno... I'm the idiot...but man, it sucks.

I'm finally taking it in to get compression tested tomorrow, one week after having bought it... to see just what shape the motor is/isn't in.

Sucks. I am considering scraping up every last dime I've got to buy a reliable single-turbo. This whole sequential twin-turbo thing is killin' me. Vacuum-line nightmare, and boost problems galore.

:[

poss 11-20-05 09:49 PM

Folks, I understand you have to pay to play, I'm just not sure I want to play this game any more. :)


Ahh, who am I kidding! I'd be so depressed if I didn't work on my car on a weekly basis. I wouldn't know what to do with all my new found time and money.

And at least I don't have the money pit that Cgotto6 refered to yet. ;)

silverTRD 11-20-05 09:52 PM

go ahead and sell it and part it out...im sure there are members that want your parts, like ME!

rotoryx793 11-20-05 10:27 PM

LS1 ;) might save a lot of money IMO...

Heisenberg 11-20-05 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by rotoryx793
LS1 ;) might save a lot of money IMO...

hows that?? He is still going to need all the suspension parts.

poss 11-20-05 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by BackyardSog
hows that?? He is still going to need all the suspension parts.

That's a $7k investment up front too. Maybe only $2-3k after selling rotary related parts, but still.


I didn't really mean for this thread to revolve around me and my on going internal struggles, I was just wondering how many of you get pissed that it costs so much to keep your baby in tip-top shape? Or am I the only one with this crazy dilemma?

YoshiFD3S 11-20-05 10:41 PM

Well the car itself was a 12k investment for me so far.

I'm already gonna have to buy a rear diff pinion gear seal. It's leaking bad. That's easy $200 + labor. Supposedly it's "Very very precise" yada yada...so Mazcare would want to charge out the ass for labor I'm sure. Tch.

These damn stock twins are annoying the sh*t outta me, though..but even if I get a good single-turbo kit with all the fittings/piping necessary to bolt it up to everything, the stock ECU is still gonna suck the big one. 12psi on stock twins would probably be the same CFM as like 8psi on a bigger single-turbo. Fuel-cut. Same idea. So THAT means...I need PFC.. $700 more..next thing I know I'm at $1,500. *seppuku*

ehos 11-20-05 10:43 PM

They still make money, they don't make FD's...

BobfisH 11-21-05 01:10 AM

short answer...nope.

You bought an old car that doesnt have much in the way of durability. Moaning you have to spend on it is like buying a 100 year old house and moaning you have to plaster a few walls or decorate a few rooms!

Ive spent more than my FD cost me to buy in parts already and its still almost standard. Get all the stuff thats broken fixed first, then start modifying - thats my philosophy. My cars had new pillow balls, new engine, new turbo, new tyres, new gauges, new brake pads, new brake discs, vac hose job, numerous oil and coolant changes, 4 wheel alignment, new lower strut bar with radiator mounts, diff brace, new air filters, new interior parts blah blah...

If you want a sweet 7, you have to dish the dollars!

The way i did it was i drove my FD for 6 months daily, and then insured my other car a diesel and started driving that. The money i save on fuel pays to fix the FD....seriously.

BobfisH 11-21-05 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
Well the car itself was a 12k investment for me so far.

I'm already gonna have to buy a rear diff pinion gear seal. It's leaking bad. That's easy $200 + labor. Supposedly it's "Very very precise" yada yada...so Mazcare would want to charge out the ass for labor I'm sure. Tch.

My car had that problem before i had it. It is a very precise job i think - the garage that warrantied it deals with RX7s all the time, but it still took them four tries to get the job right.

dgeesaman 11-21-05 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S

It was creeping from 10psi to 12psi, then bam, fuel cut. God.

Now that I've re-arranged the vacuum lines on the stock seq. twins, and now I'm only getting like 7psi, and then it'll SOMETIMES jump to like 9 1/2psi around 5k.

Just buy a Mityvac for $70, take off the UIM, and remove all solenoids and test them. Pitch the bad ones, and replace them with new ones from Mazda or used ones that test out good. Test all the actuators with the Mityvac. Reassemble with your favorite vacuum hose, exactly per the diagram. Tada, boost.

As for me, this year was a testing year with my FD. I started by pulling the injectors because I thought cleaning them would be a good idea. I also tested all my solenoids and my wiring harness. Turns out the injectors were worse after cleaning (I didn't go to one of the recommended FD injector specialist shops), and I damaged some wiring in the harness that took weeks to pin down. Till I installed new injectors, swapped out all the ignition parts, and installed a new engine harness, I spent = $1500. That's an expensive injector cleaning.

Dave

Scrapiron7 11-21-05 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by poss
That's a $7k investment up front too. Maybe only $2-3k after selling rotary related parts, but still.


I didn't really mean for this thread to revolve around me and my on going internal struggles, I was just wondering how many of you get pissed that it costs so much to keep your baby in tip-top shape? Or am I the only one with this crazy dilemma?

Just buy a C5 Z06 and be done with it :bigthumb:

rotorbrain 11-21-05 08:43 AM

i dont hate it. . . buy my wife does. thats why my car is DONE!!! NO MORE MODS. . . but, the repairs are-a-comin'. . . i can feel it. :(

dubulup 11-21-05 08:46 AM

I'm poorer than I use to be, because of my car...but who ever said they still make money, is funny.

mainly spending way to much money at "shops" and not being satisfied...did it all myself this last round, and I haven't been let down yet...and kept a little more money in my pocket...that my girlfriend took, haha

rotorbrain 11-21-05 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by dubulup
I'm poorer than I use to be, because of my car...but who ever said they still make money, is funny.

mainly spending way to much money at "shops" and not being satisfied...did it all myself this last round, and I haven't been let down yet...and kept a little more money in my pocket...that my girlfriend took, haha

haha, thats the route i took earlier on. i found out very early that i cant trust some of the "shops" out there. . . and decided to just do it all myself. it IS better that way. . . besides, theres no way i could afford it if shops did all my work. . . though, id probably have a little more sanity left over. :D

Cgotto6 11-21-05 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
I'm a little pissed off myself.

Now, I've owned turbo rotary before. I had a T2 pushing 300rwhp, runnin rock-solid, no problems, no leaks, no nothing.

I did a bunch of research into FD's in the past, and just as I was looking into buying one.

But obviously jumping into an FD for the first time at all, ugh....tons of problems.

The seller didn't let me know anything until he drove the car 5 hours to bring it to me, to the finance office.

Next thing I know, he lists problem after problem, and doesn't even tell me about the BOOST problem.

It was creeping from 10psi to 12psi, then bam, fuel cut. God.

Now that I've re-arranged the vacuum lines on the stock seq. twins, and now I'm only getting like 7psi, and then it'll SOMETIMES jump to like 9 1/2psi around 5k.

I feel like a fkin' idiot. I guess I was overwhealmed by the car, and the conditions of the car that I was promised, and I dunno... I'm the idiot...but man, it sucks.

I'm finally taking it in to get compression tested tomorrow, one week after having bought it... to see just what shape the motor is/isn't in.

Sucks. I am considering scraping up every last dime I've got to buy a reliable single-turbo. This whole sequential twin-turbo thing is killin' me. Vacuum-line nightmare, and boost problems galore.

:[

You just got the car like a week ago..So as far as im concerned you cant complain about the stock boost system for another year. Maybe then if your still having problems with it you should get a single. You havent done anything in terms of troubleshooting.

txturbogs 11-21-05 09:27 AM

Cars are not investments, specially FD's!! I purchased an LS1 FD cnverted by Hinson and I can tell you that it makes me feel more at ease. I'm not worried about blowing the turbos (mine did along with the manifold), blowing the engine, overheating, etc.

I really haven't had the chance to test the car to its max, but I can say that I drove it around 1200 miles (average of 95MPH) back home and not one problem arose, not one!!I'm just glad the previous ownder kept it in clean tip-top condition.

alberto_mg 11-21-05 09:31 AM

Yes, it does get tiring so plan your mods and repairs wisely and spend wisely. Don't feel like you got to keep modding and buying stuff b/c you keep reading about someone making an "improvement" or an "upgrade" here on the board.

I think we all have love/hate relationships with the FD. We hate spending money on it, but love playing and especially love driving it. It's still more reliable than my last BMW...

YoshiFD3S 11-21-05 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Cgotto6
You just got the car like a week ago..So as far as im concerned you cant complain about the stock boost system for another year. Maybe then if your still having problems with it you should get a single. You havent done anything in terms of troubleshooting.

Wrong actually.

But it's at Mazcare right now, just had compression test done, good results.

They are wanting to take off the UIM and fix the vacuum-line nightmare under my hood.

I agree with the concept of fixing the problem by having it back the way it SHOULD be, then slowly go from there by "upgrading"..or what have you.

EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUSE me for not trying to rip apart the motor myself and just go by the advice of members on a forum. From the 14 years of shop experience Mazcare has had VS. forum members experience playing with/trouble-shooting FD's, I think the turn-around time and quality of work of Them VS. Me is more than worth the money. And at least they are willing to teach and explain everything to me too.

I can't see anyone disagreeing with "Pay a PROFESSIONAL to fix it, and have them tell you what was wrong." rather than "Try to fix it yourself. If it blows..Hey, just try something different next time." ...sorry but no.

I appreciate advice, tips, suggestions, etc, but seeing as how I AM a new FD owner, I'm not about to just try to do it all myself, f*ck it up, and hate myself later. I feel very confident in my choice to have a professional rotary-specialist shop explain my problems, fix my problems, and educate me at the same time.

P.S. Regarding the stock boost system. I think my complaints are justified, but in the end, if the problem is fixed, then there is no problem, and no complaints. Stock seq. twins is just fine for me, as long as they work. That's the point.

dgeesaman 11-21-05 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by YoshiFC3S
I agree with the concept of fixing the problem by having it back the way it SHOULD be, then slowly go from there by "upgrading"..or what have you.

EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUSE me for not trying to rip apart the motor myself and just go by the advice of members on a forum. From the 14 years of shop experience Mazcare has had VS. forum members experience playing with/trouble-shooting FD's, I think the turn-around time and quality of work of Them VS. Me is more than worth the money. And at least they are willing to teach and explain everything to me too.

It sounds like they are a good, reputable shop. No worries there.

As for those of us who choose to struggle a little with the DIY approach, vs. taking to a shop and opening our wallets, there are two reason why I DIY:

1) I enjoy exploring and learning how these things work. While an engine rebuild is a risky thing to play with, the turbo control system really is not. As long as you have a functional boost gauge, you won't blow the motor by working with it. It's purposely designed to tend to not boost or underboost, so making a minor mistake is generally safe, and either way the first few times you WOT you simply watch the boost gauge to be sure you don't do something damaging. In the end, I know how to fix things, I know how it works, and I get it done with less capital $$. Most reliability projects with an FD don't involve "rip the motor apart", and are do-able for a hobbyist with a technical mind, hand tools, and a level of patience.

2) I don't have a shop close by, and my money is tight. While sports cars are money holes, that doesn't mean it's stupid to consider how to get the most value out of the money I throw in it. Although KD is only a 90min drive from me, it's still a major hassle to drop off the car and pick it up, and it's tough to get an appointment. So I can pull my UIM in about an hour, and the money I save on labor goes into buying newer/better parts that make sense to replace anyway. So for $1000 I get my injectors cleaned, and also get a new engine harness and OMP lines. Done at a shop, $1000 might take care of the injectors alone. I'm a salaried worker, so it's not like I can sit there and play the "what is my time worth to me?" game. I do it, and I enjoy doing it as a hobby. If an idea doesn't work, I don't get angry because I knew putting time into it was a risk I took. Usually my only loss is time.


I can't see anyone disagreeing with "Pay a PROFESSIONAL to fix it, and have them tell you what was wrong." rather than "Try to fix it yourself. If it blows..Hey, just try something different next time." ...sorry but no.
If it blows... is maybe a risk when you do your own ECU tuning, or a non-stock engine rebuild. But FDs aren't meth labs. You just research the project fully, use all the documentation you can get (FSM, forum, sites), do it right, use good parts, and it works.

Dave

turbojeff 11-21-05 10:36 AM

I sold my CYM after building what was basically my *perfect* car. It was very nice, so nice that I couldn't drive it w/o worrying about it.

http://community.webshots.com/album/89560034SgoVwL

I invested the $$ in some property and immediately, put it up for sale and I'm currently in Escrow selling the property making a decent chunk of change after commission, taxes and expenses. For me it was totally worth selling the car.

I'm at a point in my life (married w/two young kids) where a boat or motorhome is more enjoyable for the entire family.

Think about your situation with the car and do what you think is best for you. Consider long term and short term.

rotorbrain 11-21-05 11:00 AM

thats just about how i feel ATM, except i have a brand new son, and i wanna be able to pass my car on to him. . . thats something i see my dad wishing he couldve done all the time. i wanna be able to do just that for my son. . . unless he publicly denounces rotaries altogether. :D

mibad 11-21-05 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by rotorbrain
thats just about how i feel ATM, except i have a brand new son, and i wanna be able to pass my car on to him. . . thats something i see my dad wishing he couldve done all the time. i wanna be able to do just that for my son. . . unless he publicly denounces rotaries altogether. :D

Wait until he's at least 25!

turbojeff 11-21-05 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by rotorbrain
thats just about how i feel ATM, except i have a brand new son, and i wanna be able to pass my car on to him. . . thats something i see my dad wishing he couldve done all the time. i wanna be able to do just that for my son. . . unless he publicly denounces rotaries altogether. :D

That is cool, you'll just have to live through about 8-12 yrs until he is capable of even helping you with it.

You could get a boat and pass memories of fishing on the weekends with him to.

My Dad has a 1970 Bug he bought new, it is still in good shape. He very much wants to pass it on to me, I just don't want it right now. It isn't like I'm going to drive it everyday and I don't want to leave it outside.

dubulup 11-21-05 11:29 AM

^Can't believe you sold that car!! I'm sure your property is making you happier thru money...but come on, you put back seats in the CYM!!!

where's the old turbojeff that posted about hitting boost and pulling his child's head from the car seat from the G's??? (car seat facing the rear...) hahaha!!!

poss 11-21-05 11:32 AM

I can't believe you sold it either! That was a beautiful car.

dubulup 11-21-05 11:32 AM

^just had to give some more props on that project!!

great work!

turbojeff 11-21-05 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by dubulup
^Can't believe you sold that car!! I'm sure your property is making you happier thru money...but come on, you put back seats in the CYM!!!

where's the old turbojeff that posted about hitting boost and pulling his child's head from the car seat from the G's??? (car seat facing the rear...) hahaha!!!

I know, I know, trust me I can't believe it either. Especially when Road & Track had a CYM in it this month.

jpandes 11-21-05 12:43 PM

Yeah, repairs and these cars are a never ending story... For me there is always something that I "need to", "want to", or "could do" to my FD. I just need to find the time and motivation to get my but in to the garage and get dirty.

I also recently got married 5 months ago and adopted a 3 mo. old puppy (kid w/ training wheels) three weeks ago. So, I haven't had much time to wrench on my car. I have spen a bunch of cash on new parts that are just wainting to be installed. Here are some of the projects on my list:

Re-tune my PFC to for 11.2-4 AFR's up to 15 PSI
Install my new Pillow-Ball bushings
Install Jimlab bushings
Install N-tech Brake rotor cooling ducts & hose
Install SS Brake Lines
Flush brake system with new fluid
Install new spark plug wires
Install my RIO KARMA 20 G MP3 Player to work with my exisiting system
Install an the extra set of H3 HID's that I have in some driving lights

Here are some other fixes that I should do someday:

Fix A/C
Replace partially clogged heater core
Paint interior plastic pieces
Chase down short in Stereo that keep blowing fuses
Fix passenger door panel/speaker grill ands stop it from rattling

... And the list goes on.

rynberg 11-21-05 01:09 PM

Maybe this is just the bitter part of me, but I don't think anyone who has had their car for less than a year and/or has put less than five-figures into the car (above purchase price) should be posting in this thread!

I've dropped over $15k this year and still have work to do....

dubulup 11-21-05 01:22 PM

^damn Gina $15k and you're still seq ;) I got love for all my 1995 brothers...

I agree...to bitch in this thread you have to at least had your arm pits burned with fuel from changing the fuel filter AND/OR know what a blown engine sounds/drives like ALONG WITH being able to smell coolant in your own exhaust, haha

ehos 11-21-05 01:33 PM

If it's too much cash, sell it. Buy a first gen for $500 and drive it till she blows.

I'm glad I 'worked my way up' from 1G, 2GNA, 2G Turbo and finally FD. It makes you appreciate the nuances of a great car.

There's nothing on the market (LHD) that you can buy for this price. (RHD you have more options like GTiR, GTR's etc)

rynberg 11-21-05 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by dubulup
^damn Gina $15k and you're still seq ;) I got love for all my 1995 brothers...

Haha, a fully rebuilt motor with new housings, 3mm seals, streetported; BNR Stage 3s, Zeal coilovers, Stoptech and 99 brakes, chromoly rollbar, and fuel/exhaust/ignition upgrades; plus labor, add up to a lot of money....All that and I still need to install the coilovers and rollbar (Turkey day weekend project) and get the car tuned (by Kan in Dec).

Hell after all that, I still have faded side mirrors. :mad: :)

RX7 8U 11-21-05 02:05 PM

I just spent $~1300 for new rotor housings and one motor mount from Mazdacomp. $505 each for rotor housings. ...and by the way price going up another $25 each in January! Rebuild kit with all new seals was another $1200+. Throw in a street port and it's pushing $3k for the rebuild and I'm doing all the labor! (except porting).

But, on the bright side I put 25k troublefree miles on it since I bought it almost 4 years ago. It hasn't been a big money sucker 'til now. I'm not going going hog wild with mods and this isn't a commuter so I expect many years of driving pleasure after the motor is in. My sympathies goes to guys who don't/can't do their own labor. I couldn't stomach paying $100 per hour labor to work on it. Doing it myself has been half the fun actually.

dgeesaman 11-21-05 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by rynberg
Haha, a fully rebuilt motor with new housings, 3mm seals, streetported; BNR Stage 3s, Zeal coilovers, Stoptech and 99 brakes, chromoly rollbar, and fuel/exhaust/ignition upgrades; plus labor, add up to a lot of money....All that and I still need to install the coilovers and rollbar (Turkey day weekend project) and get the car tuned (by Kan in Dec).

Hmm, that's not exactly what I consider maintenance....:)

rynberg 11-21-05 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Hmm, that's not exactly what I consider maintenance....:)

ACTUALLY......I needed the new motor and turbos, and my brakes were pretty much toast at 85k with many track events on them. Might as well upgrade while I'm replacing things. :)

True, the fuel/ignition/exhaust upgrades hardly can count as maintenance. Neither can the coilovers, but I'm sick of my progressive-rate lowering springs...and I'm insane. :D

However, I did many things during the rebuild that could be counted as maintenance -- cleaning the injectors, all new hoses, some new check valves and solenoids, etc. Not to mention all of the maintenance items over the last 4 years -- oil metering pump, ISC, water pump, FPR, FPD, ALL of the rear suspension bushings, etc. It adds up quickly.

Sgtblue 11-21-05 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by rotorbrain
i wanna be able to do just that for my son. . . unless he publicly denounces rotaries altogether. :D

Try a 15 year old daughter with her Learner's Permit who already knows the stock 0-60 times, skid pad and 1/4 mile ET numbers that MAZDA claimed for a stock FD. Of course, there's no way she's getting it now . But maybe when she get's her Masters, is still single and still likes to hang out with me at the car shows. Carrot and stick. ;)

RE-Amemiya 11-21-05 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by ehos
They still make money, they don't make FD's...


Yep!!!! and as long as i have a job i don't mind at all.

GreenMean937 11-21-05 05:15 PM

money money money..... i just pretend i never had the money and i got everything for free..... im only 19 and ive probably dumped around 12k in my car + plus the 17k the car cost (ill still be paying for the next 2 1/2 years for) by myself... my parents only bought me tires when i first got it everything else was paid by me (im very proud of this).... i got it when i was 17... blew it when i was 18 and took a year to buy all that was needed to be fast and reliable when i save a few more k's to do the sinle turbo thing it will be plenty fast.... i love that car and i think it was worth every penny.... ive worked hard very hard and its the only thing i think i would wasrte that much money on....... most of the work was done by me.. except the motor and instalation...so thats alot of money saved... the day i get a credit card.. shit just add a few more thousads and ill be done.....what next??? buy a new rx7 and start over....this is true love........... fuck money it comes and goes...... my car will be with me till i die... ha ha or get deported wich ever comes first...

FormerPorscheGuy 11-21-05 05:20 PM

I am an engineer.

I never get tired of playing with things that are built out of metal and have parts that move in circles.


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