Clutchless Manual
 

Is there any U.S compagnys that produces the Clutchless Manual Transmissions?? If so could i have a few links?

Thank you

BMW and Magneti-Pirelli (Ferrari, Lambo, Aston) are the only companies that make clutchless manual systems for street cars. They are extremely expensive and difficult to program exactly for each car, which is why M-P is on their 3rd or 4th iteration and BMW's SMG sucks ass.

Not only that, but it requires a completely electronic throttle and transmission ecu.

There is no way to retro-fit it, and what would be the point?

got probs with clutch cars Frank ?
you can fit a dogbox if you build adaptors for bellhousing, but you'll still needs your clutch to launch, and dogbox trannys arent the best choice in the long run (and on the streets). i think they end up needing a rebuilt after 20k or something like that.
ive seen 13b with volvo dogbox tranny and other mix like that.

Come on Tyler, what about the old Karmann Ghia's with the clutchless manual tranny.

Who can forget those :)

haha, you got me there...:)

No problems with the clutch at all, in fact i only have 1 leg. MUAH nope I was asking because i have an automatic, so it would be easyer making a conversion to a clutchless manual that strictly a manual.

Why do you think so? A clutchless manual is just that, it still used a manual transmission. So you would have to do the full manual swap before you even tackled the electronic/hydraulic control aspects of the clutchless system.

isn't it magnetti-marelli that makes that f1 transmissions for ferrari? at least that's what my son's ride on miniature ferrari says (since i can't afford a life size one). pirelli makes tires not transmissions/electronics. anyway, more on the topic, the type of transmissions that are being brought up here are not clutchless. they have a clutch that is driven by hydrolics and/or electrics, just no clutch pedal. the only production transmissions that might be considered by some to be clutchless manuals would be similar to the porsche/audi tiptronic system, however, they are still old style slushboxes with modern updates.

Yes, it's Magnetti-Marelli, I misremembered the name (I know Pirelli doesn't make it....:) ).

And yes, I know that the trannies being discussed aren't clutchless, but clutch pedal less. Perhaps I was being too generous assuming the original poster understood that?

i figured you knew rynberg, but based ont rotorfrank's post, i wasn't sure he understood them based on his auto conversion post. not a rag on him, just stating why i posted the info. one thing i'm not positive about but i believe to be the case is that those transmissions are all sequential (like a motorcycle/new mr2), so getting there in an fd would be extremely difficult and unbelievably expensive imo.

No help for Frank, but audi makes a very clever electronic shift manual for the TT-3.2L.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...nter_317.shtml

Yeah, a pure racing transmission that costs over $6000 (just for the tranny) and would require extreme customization is a feasible idea.....

Well, that's not what he asked.

Read this, clutchless manuals exists, they`re more of a European design(italie, germany, ....etc)
http://www.edmunds.com/news/innovati...3/article.html

I just thought we probly had a company in the U.S that made one.

Apparently you missed Rynberg's post saying that they did exist and which companies use them? It was the second post in the thread...

that article is misleading since all of the cars actually have a clutch but no clutch pedal. thus, any conversion, by rotorfreak to such a set up, however expensive and unlikely it would be, would require the installation of a clutch.