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Jason 11-09-04 09:12 PM

Checkout these gauges!
 
New gauges from Autometer. Very cool!

http://hp.autometer.com/products/nexus/index.html

I will get some pricing.

Jason

r0gu3 11-09-04 09:17 PM

Hopefully they can beat Defi's prices.

KaiFD3S 11-09-04 09:20 PM

those are preety nice...yeah but judging the way they look and their function it will probably be more expensive

GOTBANNED? 11-09-04 09:22 PM

mm not as nice as defi i think...defi just has a certain feel and look at them..when u spend 1800 on guages u know what i mean

i will be getting defi again

CronoMasamune 11-09-04 09:34 PM

Those are pretty neat, hopefully they wont be too much.

ijneb 11-09-04 09:40 PM

bad ass. I like how the whole guage can go red if its above the set point. :bigthumb:

afterburn27 11-09-04 09:41 PM

Very nice, they should be cheaper than Defi too

RidicilousRx7 11-09-04 09:42 PM

Jason saw ur old car, my next door neighbour got it, Kalvin, very nice job man... il be getting in touch with u for the 500hp upgrade the second i pick my fd up this month... and let me know if u find prices out for those gauges... thanks

tinfan82 11-09-04 09:44 PM

Wow..gauges look awesome...kinda regret buying my defi bf series now..oh well, it's too late....Are they 52mm or 60mm?

Gamezilla 11-09-04 09:53 PM

Those look very nice. I'd rather have those than my Greddy Boost gauge. Nice gauge, but having to convert it to psi from bars is a pain.

Nick13B 11-09-04 09:57 PM

they look very nice, I wonder how much they will run

Railgun 11-09-04 10:02 PM

The functionality of those looks awesome, but the dial graphics are as boring as the rest of their lines.

tobecontinued 11-09-04 10:08 PM

A remote control to adjsust colors? why? I thought a remote for your car cd player was bad....

the_glass_man 11-09-04 10:44 PM

That's pretty awesome, glad to see autometer is trying to keep up with some of the other gauge manufactures. Let me know when you get pricing.

Swolbynos 11-09-04 10:46 PM

yeah, i think they are really cool.

keep us updated on the prices

Enconsiderate 11-09-04 10:52 PM

gauges look great! a lot of cool functions. I like the full illumination for a warning, but these things will probably be expensive!!! they have a remote for crying out loud!

DaleClark 11-09-04 10:55 PM

Sounds like Autometer is trying to break into the higher end of the gauge market. I'd be interested to see the pricing, but I'd also be interested to see REAL pics of the gauges and hardware. Hopefully they've figured out how to build weathertight quality harnesses and senders, instead of the hardware store crap they currently use.

But, I'm glad they're moving in a new direction.

Dale

GoRacer 11-09-04 10:56 PM

Memmory card for computer dataloging, that's pretty tight. Nice tease but what's the price?

the_glass_man 11-09-04 10:59 PM

I wonder if you can run two EGT gauges with this? That's the big draw back with the Defi BF series for me.

DaleClark 11-09-04 10:59 PM

Asked my buddy Google about the new gauges :). One of the guys on Honda-Tech e-mailed Autometer about them, and got this response:

Dear Sir,

The Nexus gauge series is currently scheduled for a January release. As
we get closer to then, the release date will become more firm. Please
feel free to check back with me via email for updates.

As for pricing, the individual gauges with senders will sell for
approximately $199-249.00 each. The Sensor Module and Remote is sold as
a kit for approximately $199. This is required for Nexus gauge
operation.

The initial lineup is for the following 7 gauges:

6455: Water Temp (100-260)
6459: Boost/Vac (30 In. Hg. / 30 PSI)
6445: EGT (0-2,000)
6453: Oil Pressure (0-100 PSI)
6456: Oil Temperature (140-300)
6474: Nitrous Pressure (0-1600)
6463: Fuel Pressure (100 PSI)
6400: Sensor Module + Remote Control

We have tentative plans to offer additional instruments, but these will
be finalized and announced in the coming months. The first of which
will likely be a tachometer to be available in the early Spring of 2005.

Sincerely,
Marc Erickson

The pricing is VERY much in Defi's territory. With Autometer's track record, I'd be surprised if they could compare with the quality of Defi's product right out of the box.

Of course, this is retail pricing, with street pricing lower.

Dale

the_glass_man 11-09-04 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by dcfc3s
The pricing is VERY much in Defi's territory. With Autometer's track record, I'd be surprised if they could compare with the quality of Defi's product right out of the box.

Of course, this is retail pricing, with street pricing lower.

Dale

That is way too high compared with the quality gauges from Defi. I do like the fact that it looks like the ring is polished or chromed should match the stock gauges just nice.

jimlab 11-09-04 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by the_glass_man
That is way too high compared with the quality gauges from Defi.

You have no idea what the quality of these gauges are, yet you're already making a judgment based on someone else's opinion?

Sure the cheap-ass Autometer mechanical gauges suck. If you pay $50 for a gauge, it's not going to be top of the line. I suspect that these are probably made for Autometer by another manufacturer, but even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the accuracy was on par with Defi.

the_glass_man 11-09-04 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
You have no idea what the quality of these gauges are, yet you're already making a judgment based on someone else's opinion?

Sure the cheap-ass Autometer mechanical gauges suck. If you pay $50 for a gauge, it's not going to be top of the line. I suspect that these are probably made for Autometer by another manufacturer, but even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the accuracy was on par with Defi.

When your name is Autometer, I think you'll find it hard to sell anyone a $400.00 gauge no matter how well it's made. Their reputation proceeds them, would I like to believe they are every bit as good if not better than the Defi gauges? You bet I would, but again their past track record speaks for its self. Even if they don't manufacture their own gauges.

jimlab 11-09-04 11:50 PM

They wouldn't still be in business if they didn't make decent gauges. Judging all of them by the performance of their budget line is pretty lame. Have you even owned an Autometer gauge?

Personally, I think they got a bad rep in the RX-7 community solely because their budget mechanical boost gauge was sometimes off by a pound or so... after people ran 6 or 7 feet of tiny vacuum line into the cabin.

the_glass_man 11-09-04 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
They wouldn't still be in business if they didn't make decent gauges. Judging all of them by the performance of their budget line is pretty lame. Have you even owned an Autometer gauge?

Personally, I think they got a bad rep in the RX-7 community solely because their budget mechanical boost gauge was sometimes off by a pound or so... after people ran 6 or 7 feet of tiny vacuum line into the cabin.

I run 5 pro-comp gauges and have been an advocate for them. They are fine gauges for the price. I however think it will be hard for them to justify a $400 boost gauge.

jimlab 11-10-04 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by the_glass_man
I however think it will be hard for them to justify a $400 boost gauge.

If all you were getting was a boost gauge, sure. However, it's a gauge system, just like the Defi.

I haven't noticed anyone crying about having to buy the Defi controller just to get a boost gauge, because anyone interested in a system like that is going to be running more than one gauge.

Houdini 11-10-04 12:46 AM

I really like the Defi BF Gauges, but there's one big problem with them that Autometer has seemed to resolve with these gauges. The BF gauges only come in metric units. If they made SI units, I'd buy them even at that pricey sticker.

RotorMotor 11-10-04 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Houdini
I really like the Defi BF Gauges, but there's one big problem with them that Autometer has seemed to resolve with these gauges. The BF gauges only come in metric units. If they made SI units, I'd buy them even at that pricey sticker.

exactly! so on top of the metric units they also dont offer an amber display. the only series w/ an amber display and standard units is the d-series.... and unfortunatly you loose alot of the functionality of the link system (cant record, and cant give you a warning light or buzzer or whatever). BUT... form over function would have weighed in and i would have broken down and gotten the (for all intensive purposes) non functional d-series gauges.

now it looks like i may be able to have my cake and eat it too! amber lighting, standard units, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY a warning function!!! too bad i just ordered a d-series boost gague (today of all things before i saw this thread)...... anyway... if the autometer ones work out, and seem to be good gauges, ill just sell the defi boost, and get the full set of autometers instead of continuing to buy d-series gauges

t-von 11-10-04 02:33 AM

Those look tight. I would love to place all my stock gauges with those.

Houdini 11-10-04 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor
exactly! so on top of the metric units they also dont offer an amber display.

I hate to burst your bubble, but Defi released an amber version of the BF series not too long ago. But again, no SI units. It's like WTF, how hard is it to make a different face that has SI units.

http://www.defi-usa.com/bf.php

http://www.defi-usa.com/images/ignon-red.gif

1revn3rdgen 11-10-04 03:16 AM

Sweet.I would like to know the prices when you get them.

scotty305 11-10-04 03:53 AM

Sorry to threadjack, but SI stands for Système International d'Unités, which is the metric system (boost measured in Bar). The system using inches, feet, and pounds is known as the English system (boost measured in psi).

http://www.bipm.fr/en/home/

Back on topic, they look nice but I wonder how many people are willing to spend that much on gauges. With both Autometer and Defi making high-end automotive gauges, I'd be surprised if they aren't both forced to drop prices due to overproduction. That should be good for most of us.

The color-changing on alerts would be a welcome feature, but I wonder how precise the data-aqcuisition system will be, especially if it's a low sampling rate.

-s-

Tim Benton 11-10-04 05:22 AM

Any response on the size of the guages yet? 52 or 60mm?

Tim

WaLieN 11-10-04 05:50 AM

...looks expensive. I think the various colours that the LED can produce is a nice feature, so that you don't have to put light bulb condoms (filters) on to match. Some of the features such as simulation are pretty useless, though.

1QWIK7 11-10-04 06:54 AM

awesome but they'll be somewhat more expensive than defi, at least for the debut..

Scrapiron7 11-10-04 07:33 AM

Those are some nice looking gauges! :)

Whizbang 11-10-04 07:49 AM

as fancy as youll see me with my gauges is the autometer cobalt. And teh only reson they will be backlight is because i drive more at night. i dont see why you want flashing magical gauges that can make you coffee and do your taxes. Both will read your gas level, only i didnt have to morgage for mine.

RotorFrank 11-10-04 09:14 AM


as fancy as youll see me with my gauges is the autometer cobalt. And teh only reson they will be backlight is because i drive more at night. i dont see why you want flashing magical gauges that can make you coffee and do your taxes. Both will read your gas level, only i didnt have to morgage for mine.
Its not a question of beeing Fancy... its a question of the lumonisity that is different. Easyer to read from and well organized. You can data-log your performances, thats what i like about it. Knowing what kind of boost you got at a certain RPM by replaying your recorded run. THATS whats nice about it.

DaleClark 11-10-04 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by jimlab
They wouldn't still be in business if they didn't make decent gauges. Judging all of them by the performance of their budget line is pretty lame. Have you even owned an Autometer gauge?

Personally, I think they got a bad rep in the RX-7 community solely because their budget mechanical boost gauge was sometimes off by a pound or so... after people ran 6 or 7 feet of tiny vacuum line into the cabin.

Accuracy is a big part of the equation, but for me the quality of all the materials is a biggie. Quality sensors, weatherpak connectors, quality wiring harnesses - that's what makes for a clean gauge install and also keeps the gauge giving you the right information for a long time to come.

I sure would like to see these gauges be of top quality and worth the price. The more options you have for something like this, the better, and I do dig the SD card feature and some of the high-end features of these gauges. But, it's just a substantial leap for Autometer from their current lineup - kind of like Kia announcing a twin-turbo AWD supercar.

We'll know more next January.

Dale

jimlab 11-10-04 11:35 AM

Now if someone would just make gauges that were able to cycle between various readings (and have the display change accordingly), they'd have a real winner.

A temperature gauge that could accept multiple inputs to switch between water temp, oil temp, intake and ambient air temp (multiple reading points), and EGT.

A pressure gauge that could accept multiple inputs to switch between oil pressure, fuel pressure, boost pressure (or vacuum), etc.

You could handle almost all of your gauge needs with just 2 gauges and leave them set on the functions you used most often. Unfortunately, it would be cheaper and easier to mount a pair of SPA dual gauges, which is what I'll probably do. I don't want 4 extra gauges when I can have only 2. The only thing I don't like about them is the digital display.

Sonny 11-10-04 11:35 AM

I have personally found that there is a large variance in the quality of Autometer's stuff. As pointed out, their "bottom dollar" stuff offers bottom dollar quality. I had one of their short sweep oil pressure gauges. That thing was a POS, but it was only $40.

I also have their full-sweep fuel pressure gauge with memory. It was $225, but it is the best gauge I have ever owned. Looking at the two, it's hard to believe that they are made by the same company. They probably aren't.

Sonny

RotorMotor 11-10-04 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Houdini
I hate to burst your bubble, but Defi released an amber version of the BF series not too long ago. But again, no SI units. It's like WTF, how hard is it to make a different face that has SI units.

http://www.defi-usa.com/bf.php

http://www.defi-usa.com/images/ignon-red.gif

shit.... yeah i can live without standard units :biggrin: ...i didnt know they added these to their lineup. how do the colors match out gauges? if ts about the same as the d-series ones ill just get a set of defi's (damn i always seem to be the last to findout about anything... hehe)

Houdini 11-10-04 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor
shit.... yeah i can live without standard units :biggrin: ...i didnt know they added these to their lineup. how do the colors match out gauges? if ts about the same as the d-series ones ill just get a set of defi's (damn i always seem to be the last to findout about anything... hehe)

I don't know if anyone here has bought them yet. They look to be a close match to the FDs amber, but probably a little brighter red.

http://www.defi-usa.com/images/car-amber.jpg

JaNusSolSumnus 11-10-04 01:28 PM

Yea, I have Defi gauges myself and I like them, the Autometer offering looks nice and it would fit our cars well but I am another that questions their accuracy. Maybe these are differant but in my experiance Autometer was the cheap, it'll work in mah pick-up gauges.

~Kris

KaiFD3S 11-10-04 01:44 PM

It's funny how a lot of you are dogging autometer gauges when back in the day's everybody had to have a big ass autometer Tach with a big ass shiftlight, if you didnt have that you were not a racer, Autometer made a name for themselves that is why if you look at almost all NHRA drag racers and nascar use these gauges.

Granted they are Domestic cars it's still works the same...Autometer products are just as good if not better than a lot of gauges out there, basically they are the biggest out there.

oorx7 11-10-04 01:57 PM

They look very nice and I would definently consider buying these as a set. I only have one guage and it is the autometer boost gauge(pettit racing colume gauge pod).

Railgun 11-10-04 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by jimlab
Now if someone would just make gauges that were able to cycle between various readings (and have the display change accordingly), they'd have a real winner.

A temperature gauge that could accept multiple inputs to switch between water temp, oil temp, intake and ambient air temp (multiple reading points), and EGT.

A pressure gauge that could accept multiple inputs to switch between oil pressure, fuel pressure, boost pressure (or vacuum), etc.

You could handle almost all of your gauge needs with just 2 gauges and leave them set on the functions you used most often. Unfortunately, it would be cheaper and easier to mount a pair of SPA dual gauges, which is what I'll probably do. I don't want 4 extra gauges when I can have only 2. The only thing I don't like about them is the digital display.

When OLED tech matures a little, that should be pretty simple. In addition, you could change the general syling (fonts, hash marks, etc) as well. Having a single box that multiple sending units tie into that would handle all the processing should be something that is doable now. That could be placed into the engine bay and have a single wire going to however many gauges you want. It will happen, but the technology needs to catch up to the demand.

F0RSAKEN 11-10-04 02:43 PM

These are awsome looking gauges...but I think I like the Defi Link series better...even the D-gauges. They just look more professional to me. But its definitely nice that Autometer is stepping up and putting out products like this.

darkside7 11-10-04 02:47 PM

with thoes prices, i think i'll stick with my greddy guages.

7-sins 11-10-04 03:20 PM

The Defis are still at the top of my list eventhough this is cool for autometer... I just wish Defi came out with the US system instead of metric.


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