Chance to get FD from Japan
01-07-04, 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by particleeffect
What argument? I already know the odds, i've researched already, this is not new to me. Where i'm coming from, is that instead of facts, everyone wants to throw in their opinion where it isn't needed. I want to see some people try this, it isn't my money so i don't really care how it's spent. Alot of people put extra value into the 94/95's because of rarity alone, so how about a JDM 94/95?
I say, go for it. Research and step up with the money.
-Kento - Not what i meant by cool. Everytime the issue comes up there are the people saying "you can't, it's illegal!". So? Most all of us know it's illegal, so shut up about it. If the legal risks bother YOU then YOU don't do it. It's simple.
What argument? I already know the odds, i've researched already, this is not new to me. Where i'm coming from, is that instead of facts, everyone wants to throw in their opinion where it isn't needed. I want to see some people try this, it isn't my money so i don't really care how it's spent. Alot of people put extra value into the 94/95's because of rarity alone, so how about a JDM 94/95?
I say, go for it. Research and step up with the money.
-Kento - Not what i meant by cool. Everytime the issue comes up there are the people saying "you can't, it's illegal!". So? Most all of us know it's illegal, so shut up about it. If the legal risks bother YOU then YOU don't do it. It's simple.
I have a good idea of what it takes. Crackers has a good idea of what it takes. We backed up our "opinions" w/ facts.
All you had to say, was despite the high hurdles to get it done,...you support anyone who takes the time to do the legalization.
But instead, you chose to say that we were "jealous" individuals.
And No, Kento doesn't have to "shut up about it". Just as much as I don't have to "shut up about it". Why do I care about this issue so much? Because the buyer ends up getting screwed in the end. If someone illegally imports a vehicle and sells it to a buyer who thinks it is "street legal", and ASSUMING that the govt. finds it....guess who gets screwed? That's right...the buyer. There is no way the govt. will give the buyer back his money. They will take the car and there is no refund. They may even slap on a fine, who knows. But bottom line is that the buyer will end up w/ no car and less cash.
And so if I bring attention to that fact that something may be illegal,...I'm not cool? BOOHOO. It is not about bring cool. I could care less about this.
As per your statement: "most people are too retarded to figure out how to do it, it either can't be done, or "omg you broke a law!!!"."
...are you saying that you know how to do it or are you "too retarded to figure out how to do it"?
Oh wait...that's right. You don't how to do it because if you did,...you wouldn't tell others to do the following:
"I say, go for it. Research and step up with the money."
01-07-04, 11:54 AM
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One of the reasons that we're "giving our opinions" (which they aren't-- they're facts) is because we dislike the spread of misinformation, and/or the distortion of facts. The RHD loyalists get defensive because we're pointing out those facts without generalization or misleading comments. The fact that we point out methods like VIN switching are illegal is basically a small fraction of those facts.
Vudoodoodoo's last comment basically sums it up.
01-07-04, 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
...are you saying that you know how to do it or are you "too retarded to figure out how to do it"?
Oh wait...that's right. You don't how to do it because if you did,...you wouldn't tell others to do the following:
"I say, go for it. Research and step up with the money."
...are you saying that you know how to do it or are you "too retarded to figure out how to do it"?
Oh wait...that's right. You don't how to do it because if you did,...you wouldn't tell others to do the following:
"I say, go for it. Research and step up with the money."
say what you want, but there are alot of opinions in here. "fd3s93" basically summed it up for me. it always seems like people just don't want someone to get it done, which is why it seems like jelousy coming from alot of them. like if they can't do it then no one can.
01-07-04, 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by particleeffect
say what you want, but there are alot of opinions in here. "fd3s93" basically summed it up for me. it always seems like people just don't want someone to get it done, which is why it seems like jelousy coming from alot of them. like if they can't do it then no one can.
say what you want, but there are alot of opinions in here. "fd3s93" basically summed it up for me. it always seems like people just don't want someone to get it done, which is why it seems like jelousy coming from alot of them. like if they can't do it then no one can.
Here is the deal. This RHD RX-7 that the thread starter is looking at is going to either be illegal to drive on public roads, or cost more than a US FD of the same quality. It can be done legally but it is very expensive.
And whoever it is that is selling a supposed "legal jdm efini rx7" has not provided nearly enough info for anyone to even consider it. The rest of this thread is lost. Now quit bitching like a bunch of little girls and either import the car and legalize it, or don't.
Jealousy, that's hilarious. I wish I were willing to spend horrific amounts of time and money to have a RHD FD. You can't honestly expect that many people think that's so cool can you? Go ahead and think its awesome but if you pull up next to me in a RHD FD, I will simply say, nice FD. It has nothing to do with what side the steering wheel is on.
As far as concidering a jspec car to save money, I can understand that, but any chance of saving money has been put to shambles by the costs of importing and legalizing. Jealousy, that's funny.
01-07-04, 09:48 PM
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damn, I didn't check into this thread for a while. Guys relax, I think I trust the thread to not be dicks about my story. Besides, I could always just deny it, but I don't think that the club members would turn me in. Its true, for the differences from a JDM to US Spec rx7 it is just more worth getting one from here. BUT if he is set on getting it, then no one should interfere with his dreams. Anything is possible. ANYTHING
01-07-04, 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by PureSephiroth
and your misinterpretation is worse than any other expressed in this thread.
Here is the deal. This RHD RX-7 that the thread starter is looking at is going to either be illegal to drive on public roads, or cost more than a US FD of the same quality. It can be done legally but it is very expensive.
And whoever it is that is selling a supposed "legal jdm efini rx7" has not provided nearly enough info for anyone to even consider it. The rest of this thread is lost. Now quit bitching like a bunch of little girls and either import the car and legalize it, or don't.
Jealousy, that's hilarious. I wish I were willing to spend horrific amounts of time and money to have a RHD FD. You can't honestly expect that many people think that's so cool can you? Go ahead and think its awesome but if you pull up next to me in a RHD FD, I will simply say, nice FD. It has nothing to do with what side the steering wheel is on.
As far as concidering a jspec car to save money, I can understand that, but any chance of saving money has been put to shambles by the costs of importing and legalizing. Jealousy, that's funny.
and your misinterpretation is worse than any other expressed in this thread.
Here is the deal. This RHD RX-7 that the thread starter is looking at is going to either be illegal to drive on public roads, or cost more than a US FD of the same quality. It can be done legally but it is very expensive.
And whoever it is that is selling a supposed "legal jdm efini rx7" has not provided nearly enough info for anyone to even consider it. The rest of this thread is lost. Now quit bitching like a bunch of little girls and either import the car and legalize it, or don't.
Jealousy, that's hilarious. I wish I were willing to spend horrific amounts of time and money to have a RHD FD. You can't honestly expect that many people think that's so cool can you? Go ahead and think its awesome but if you pull up next to me in a RHD FD, I will simply say, nice FD. It has nothing to do with what side the steering wheel is on.
As far as concidering a jspec car to save money, I can understand that, but any chance of saving money has been put to shambles by the costs of importing and legalizing. Jealousy, that's funny.
I DO NOT want to get on any of the RX7CLUb members bad sides, I love this place! Im only 17 and not as good a debator or as much of a rotorhead as you guys, I really admire tjhose of you that dedicate tie to this place, and put in your opinions for the benefit of others and have over 1k posts! This is a great place to get advice and help and even just to hangout. Ive learned most of my rotary stuff from reading and reading and reading some more. I just love to put my 2 cents in there too.
01-08-04, 12:01 AM
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^ what he said. too many nay sayers to argue with. no matter how many times this comes up there are always flocks of people who say it's outright stupid.
i didn't say anyone in particular was jelous (it's interesting how some people defended themselves for something i said so nonchalantly without even naming names).
someone needs to do this and i don't have anywhere near the resources. driving around a 10 year old FD when they were made untill 02 annoys me. if that offends you, too bad. i don't have the time to be arguing with people who say something can't be done when i don't have the resources to do it myself.
i didn't say anyone in particular was jelous (it's interesting how some people defended themselves for something i said so nonchalantly without even naming names).
someone needs to do this and i don't have anywhere near the resources. driving around a 10 year old FD when they were made untill 02 annoys me. if that offends you, too bad. i don't have the time to be arguing with people who say something can't be done when i don't have the resources to do it myself.
01-08-04, 12:54 AM
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If someone is determined enough and wants it bad enough, it is possible, I think that was the original topic of this thread, the POSIBILITY of importing a JDM Rex not if it was worth it.
If someone is determined enough and wants it bad enough, it is possible, I think that was the original topic of this thread, the POSIBILITY of importing a JDM Rex not if it was worth it.
You might want to look at the original post. The person was asking everyone whether he should buy a JDM FD without actually seeing it in person, and what would be necessary to license it to drive legally in the U.S. So that's what some of us told him. Did anyone say it couldn't be done? No. Were there opinions expressed on whether it was worth it? Sure. But that's part of asking on a public forum for opinions, isn't it? And yet when some point out the pitfalls of trying to legalize a JDM car, those who want one "get defensive", and claim the "naysayers" say it can't be done.
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01-08-04, 04:23 AM
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i thought it was legal to import a rhd car into teh states as long as its not driven on public roads...i mean the gov doesnt have much say on what u can and cant own, ur fd could just be a really big paper wieght....
and as for actually legalizing it....well...probably isnt worth the time, the headache or the effort...might as well just spend tat time tryin to legalize it and just work a couple more hours....
and as for actually legalizing it....well...probably isnt worth the time, the headache or the effort...might as well just spend tat time tryin to legalize it and just work a couple more hours....
01-08-04, 05:17 AM
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Hello all,
I did offer my services before but i'll do it again. Im a low volume importer of JDM cars into the UK. Ive just checked with my guy in Japan and I can ship cars direct from Japan to most US ports (i have a sailing schedule). If someone wants to give this a go then im quite happy to help. All i need is someone at the US end with their head screwed on who can deal with all the port/customs etc. at the US end. I know nothing of the systems in place at your end - but it would be a good learning experience.
I will do the car/shipping and everything at COST price. Yes im serious. The obvious benefit for me is that if it works then i can ship more cars.......
I have a dedicated buyer in Japan who can look over the cars, test drive them etc. and send a load of pictures over.
Typical example (one at random for sale this week) - 1996 RX7 Type R, metallic black, 5 speed, 80000kms, Stock except RE Amemiya intake and a set of 17" rims. Cost price $8000 SHIPPED to the US. Dont forget whatever duty/customs/port charges they add your end.
I guess worst case scenario you'd have a cheap car for selling off as parts if you cant drive it ? Or maybe a cheap FD3S for racing !?
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I did offer my services before but i'll do it again. Im a low volume importer of JDM cars into the UK. Ive just checked with my guy in Japan and I can ship cars direct from Japan to most US ports (i have a sailing schedule). If someone wants to give this a go then im quite happy to help. All i need is someone at the US end with their head screwed on who can deal with all the port/customs etc. at the US end. I know nothing of the systems in place at your end - but it would be a good learning experience.
I will do the car/shipping and everything at COST price. Yes im serious. The obvious benefit for me is that if it works then i can ship more cars.......
I have a dedicated buyer in Japan who can look over the cars, test drive them etc. and send a load of pictures over.
Typical example (one at random for sale this week) - 1996 RX7 Type R, metallic black, 5 speed, 80000kms, Stock except RE Amemiya intake and a set of 17" rims. Cost price $8000 SHIPPED to the US. Dont forget whatever duty/customs/port charges they add your end.
I guess worst case scenario you'd have a cheap car for selling off as parts if you cant drive it ? Or maybe a cheap FD3S for racing !?
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01-08-04, 08:37 AM
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Oh hellllll no. You are not soliciting the RX-7 club for your services.
I have a BIG problem w/ how you are "PROMOTING" your company. Why?
Because:
1) You are in the UK. Therefore, you are only subject to UK laws, not US laws. Therefore, god forbid, you either run off w/ the money OR the transactions fails to be completed (MEANING the buyer cannot legally receive and register the vehicle), you SCREW the buyer.
2) YOU blantantly tell us that YOU need someone in the US to deal w/ US customs. Therefore, you act as a middle man and place the legal paperwork (and legal responsibilities) on an individual in the US.
3) The WORST CASE scenario, is that an innocent buyer, on the FALSE premise that you can register the car LEGALLY in all 50 states, gets the vehicle taken away by US Customs. The buyer will not get a single penny for the price he paid for the car. Therefore, worst case is the buyer is out of a car and has less cash. The buyer may even get slapped w/ a fine.
4) You even mentioning that a buyer would end up w/ a cheap car for parts or racing,...shows me that you may be filing improper paperwork. Meaning, you may be deceiving the UK govt. as well as the US govt., if a US buyer were to consider buying from you.
If you want to start doing business in the US AND you are serious,...talk to a US Registered Importation Company. Don't try to sucker individuals w/ the low low prices that you find.
You want an idea of what it takes to register a car....read this thread. I make mention of what it takes for a car to get deemed 100% street legal.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=3
I have a BIG problem w/ how you are "PROMOTING" your company. Why?
Because:
1) You are in the UK. Therefore, you are only subject to UK laws, not US laws. Therefore, god forbid, you either run off w/ the money OR the transactions fails to be completed (MEANING the buyer cannot legally receive and register the vehicle), you SCREW the buyer.
2) YOU blantantly tell us that YOU need someone in the US to deal w/ US customs. Therefore, you act as a middle man and place the legal paperwork (and legal responsibilities) on an individual in the US.
3) The WORST CASE scenario, is that an innocent buyer, on the FALSE premise that you can register the car LEGALLY in all 50 states, gets the vehicle taken away by US Customs. The buyer will not get a single penny for the price he paid for the car. Therefore, worst case is the buyer is out of a car and has less cash. The buyer may even get slapped w/ a fine.
4) You even mentioning that a buyer would end up w/ a cheap car for parts or racing,...shows me that you may be filing improper paperwork. Meaning, you may be deceiving the UK govt. as well as the US govt., if a US buyer were to consider buying from you.
If you want to start doing business in the US AND you are serious,...talk to a US Registered Importation Company. Don't try to sucker individuals w/ the low low prices that you find.
You want an idea of what it takes to register a car....read this thread. I make mention of what it takes for a car to get deemed 100% street legal.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=3
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01-08-04, 11:08 AM
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I have a BIG problem with the insulting tone of your post but will reply to your points out of courtesy to clarify.
1. The way it works in the UK is the money is released upon receipt of the Bill of Lading. The Bill of Lading and Invoices are then released to the buyer. Its been like that for 5+ years so i would think a similar system would work just as well in the US.
2. Yes i need someone to deal with US paperwork ! Of course i cant do it from over here - thats just crazy. We dont import Japanese cars to the UK expecting the Japanese to do all the clearance paperwork ?!?
3. I didnt say you could definately register it ! Im just offering my services to get a car from Japan to the US. It seems that some people say they can , others they cant - hence having someone with their head screwed on, having looked into it fully and being able to make an informed decision. I assumed that if the car couldnt be registered that the buyer would be left with the car - not that its taken away by customs ?
4. I think this point shows a lack of knowledge on your part. Theres no need to file 'improper' paperwork with the UK Govt. as its the US that has the restrictions, not the UK ! I could get REALLY angry with you here as you are building assumption on assumption and concluding that i may be ripping the UK Govt. off !?
Crazy.....
The upshot of all this, and i'll say it again, i DONT KNOW the US end of things. If someone does and is happy with the procedures, and sure they can get it on the road then I can get cars from Japan to the US. Jees i was only trying to help you guys out.
1. The way it works in the UK is the money is released upon receipt of the Bill of Lading. The Bill of Lading and Invoices are then released to the buyer. Its been like that for 5+ years so i would think a similar system would work just as well in the US.
2. Yes i need someone to deal with US paperwork ! Of course i cant do it from over here - thats just crazy. We dont import Japanese cars to the UK expecting the Japanese to do all the clearance paperwork ?!?
3. I didnt say you could definately register it ! Im just offering my services to get a car from Japan to the US. It seems that some people say they can , others they cant - hence having someone with their head screwed on, having looked into it fully and being able to make an informed decision. I assumed that if the car couldnt be registered that the buyer would be left with the car - not that its taken away by customs ?
4. I think this point shows a lack of knowledge on your part. Theres no need to file 'improper' paperwork with the UK Govt. as its the US that has the restrictions, not the UK ! I could get REALLY angry with you here as you are building assumption on assumption and concluding that i may be ripping the UK Govt. off !?
Crazy.....The upshot of all this, and i'll say it again, i DONT KNOW the US end of things. If someone does and is happy with the procedures, and sure they can get it on the road then I can get cars from Japan to the US. Jees i was only trying to help you guys out.
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01-08-04, 11:24 AM
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I apologize w/ the tone of my post. It stems from the link that I provided.
Also, I know of instances where an individual paid for a vehicle, but once the vehicle reached US shores,...US Customs said it must be shipped out (at the buyer's expense). One vehicle was a Skyline.
Again, I apologize for the tone of my post. But as suggested, I would recommend speaking w/ an actual RI for US legalization of vehicles.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/..._07102003.html
Also, I know of instances where an individual paid for a vehicle, but once the vehicle reached US shores,...US Customs said it must be shipped out (at the buyer's expense). One vehicle was a Skyline.
Again, I apologize for the tone of my post. But as suggested, I would recommend speaking w/ an actual RI for US legalization of vehicles.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/..._07102003.html
01-08-04, 12:25 PM
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As for the guy that imports cars form UK, thats a pretty awesome job and a pretty awesome deal for the car. We shouldn't hate on peeps that are in the forum, none of us here are international spies or cops. We are just here to express our opinions on and thoughts and ideas on our rex's. Have fun
01-08-04, 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Little 7
I heard you can get register in CA but you need to get approval from mazda NA for some paperwork like crach report. ppl said you can have RHD FD legal in CA but not klater than 96. Good luck and tell us more on that.
I heard you can get register in CA but you need to get approval from mazda NA for some paperwork like crach report. ppl said you can have RHD FD legal in CA but not klater than 96. Good luck and tell us more on that.
Vehicles acquired in foreign countries other than the U.S. and designed, built, tested and certified to meet either all applicable Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards or all applicable United States Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and bearing a statement of compliance label affixed by the original manufacturer, as required by the Regulations, may be eligible for importation into Canada provided the vehicle has not been altered and the certification from the original manufacturer is maintained. Please contact Transport Canada, Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate, at 1-613-998-8616 for further information.
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Canada is slightly different from what ive heard, apparently its only vehicles manufactured within the last 15 years that have to meet the safety standards, rather than 25 years in the US.
As the First R32 GTR Skylines came out in 1989, there has been a lot of interest all of a sudden from Canada.......August 1989 was the first month of production so still 8 months to go. Be very interesting to see what happens.
As the First R32 GTR Skylines came out in 1989, there has been a lot of interest all of a sudden from Canada.......August 1989 was the first month of production so still 8 months to go. Be very interesting to see what happens.
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Yes I know if a car is older than 15 years, in Canada its automatically legible for importing.
I also contacted Mazda USA, and they will not issue a statement of compliance for a fd of any year.
There are several jdm FC's in Canada already, and I know of a few people who are seriously looking at getting a R32.
I also contacted Mazda USA, and they will not issue a statement of compliance for a fd of any year.
There are several jdm FC's in Canada already, and I know of a few people who are seriously looking at getting a R32.
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I am looking at this whole idea as well. we ship race cars all over the world in peaces for cheaper importing taxes because they are labled as parts. could you do this with 7s. I know that seems off the wall. but take it for what it is and do not try to eat it up.
as for above so you can register a skyline in the states by getting a vin issued? I thought it as well ha to go through significant changes to become street legal in the states.
now has anybody actualy shipped a fd from japan to the states if so you are the one I would love to speak to either by pm or phone, please pm me for my phone number or simply request I reply.
thanks and best of luck to all of yall who are struggling with this problem, joe
as for above so you can register a skyline in the states by getting a vin issued? I thought it as well ha to go through significant changes to become street legal in the states.
now has anybody actualy shipped a fd from japan to the states if so you are the one I would love to speak to either by pm or phone, please pm me for my phone number or simply request I reply.
thanks and best of luck to all of yall who are struggling with this problem, joe
