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AntonG 11-16-09 01:37 PM

Any good shops for my full build
 
Hey guys, i just purchased a 93 VR RX7 touring the car is bone stock and i wanted to do a full build on the car. i was looking for anywhere from 550-600whp. anybody know of a shop that has built something like this before and is actually affordable and reliable? any suggestions on the build or shop are welcome, thank you

arghx 11-16-09 02:04 PM

how much money do you have?

bc_fd3s 11-16-09 02:10 PM

^^^

GoodfellaFD3S 11-16-09 03:48 PM

If the car is completely stock, you'll probably need on the order of $15k or so budgeted for a complete build.

Edit: Make that $20k :)

no_more_rice 11-16-09 03:51 PM

if you want to duplicate Rich's car, make it 50k

;)

dgeesaman 11-16-09 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by AntonG (Post 9626070)
i was looking for 1) anywhere from 550-600whp... and is actually 2) affordable and 3) reliable?

There are plenty of options, but first you need to pick two.

David

no_more_rice 11-16-09 03:53 PM

420 rwhp is plenty in an FD unless you're drag racing, at least that's my opinion

djseven 11-16-09 03:55 PM

600whp, affordable, and reliable?:lol: Is someone playing a trick on us:) Seriously, 600whp in a rotary doesnt go along with either affordable or reliable. Well I guess it depends on your version of reliable.

AntonG 11-16-09 04:20 PM

well im no dummy to the automotive world, i understand that its gonna take money, time and a lot of dedication. nothing is really reliable when building a car, what i meant is a shop that has done this kind of work before and is not just winging it when building my car. i realize that the car is gonna cost some money and maybe afforadble wasnt the best word lol

GoodfellaFD3S 11-16-09 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by AntonG (Post 9626344)
well im no dummy to the automotive world, i understand that its gonna take money, time and a lot of dedication. nothing is really reliable when building a car, what i meant is a shop that has done this kind of work before and is not just winging it when building my car. i realize that the car is gonna cost some money and maybe afforadble wasnt the best word lol

Ihor can certainly do it, it all depends on your budget and patience ;)

Edit: you have to kinda dig for this page: http://irperformance.com/?page_id=131

Edit2: Also, my setup is not a 600 rwhp one b/c that's not my goal. It's very close though--- one more fuel pump, a larger turbo and some c16 is all I'd need :)

Supernaut 11-16-09 04:33 PM

Check the NE forum for a list of good mechanics. Off the top of my head...

-IRP, NJ
-KDR, PA
-JPR, NJ

I've heard nothing but great things about those shops. I go to IRP myself and have had nothing but great service from them.

Supernaut 11-16-09 04:34 PM

Wow Rich, that is the second nicest looking FD I have ever seen.

Zhé 11-16-09 04:49 PM

20b, and sell the original motor :D

David Hayes 11-17-09 05:45 AM

How about Defined Autoworks?

http://www.definedautoworks.com/

Banzai-Racing 11-17-09 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by AntonG (Post 9626070)
Hey guys, i just purchased a 93 VR RX7 touring the car is bone stock and i wanted to do a full build on the car. i was looking for anywhere from 550-600whp. anybody know of a shop that has built something like this before and is actually affordable and reliable? any suggestions on the build or shop are welcome, thank you

Well at least you have lowered you HP expectations a little. Last week when you called our shop you wanted 700rwhp which is a pretty lofty goal for the budget that you told us you were working with.

550hp is much more realistic for your budget, considering everything in the car needs to be upgraded. Parts add up fast.

rx7rcer09 11-17-09 08:24 AM

there are many shops, RX7store, defined autoworks, PFS, Banzi racing those are near Michigan not super close but there all good shops.

GoodfellaFD3S 11-17-09 09:19 AM

If I didn't work on my own FD, places/people I'd trust:

(1) Chris and Ari at www.RX7.com
(2) Chris at Banzai
(3) Glen at AZRR
(4) Ihor at IRP
(5) Cuddlebear/DJSeven

Edit: It's a short list based on my personal experience. Certainly other shops out there may be qualified, I just dont have firsthand experience with them.

tt7hvn 11-17-09 12:50 PM

lets just say you came to the right place to ask for advice on your 7

there are a lot of "local" shops out there that would charge you a limb for what these guys do on a regular basis, and are very good at it

anyone on that list would be a great choice IMO, just keep it in the community and you won't have a problem in dealing with vendors on this forum

AntonG 11-17-09 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing (Post 9627540)
Well at least you have lowered you HP expectations a little. Last week when you called our shop you wanted 700rwhp which is a pretty lofty goal for the budget that you told us you were working with.

550hp is much more realistic for your budget, considering everything in the car needs to be upgraded. Parts add up fast.

My budget was never discussed in our phone call, i asked how much it will take and what i will need, when i asked if you guys had built a car to thats made this kind of power your response was "we've built drag purpose cars" not really the answer i was looking for. i also asked for a quote or a list of what parts you would use i was told to check out some of your prior builds on your website. what i seen isnt what im looking for. please don't take this response negatively, but your comment challenges my credibility , the last thing i want to have is people thinking I'm not serious with this build, thank you

AntonG 11-17-09 11:29 PM

thanks guys, i really appreciate all your help. this being my first 7, all this info is really helping

gracer7-rx7 11-18-09 12:46 AM

No offense but you sound like the typical dreamer that comes on here posting asking questions of this nature. Most people that take on a large build do some research on their own. Imagine how many calls from dreamers people/shops like Banzai get. People looking for 550-600 HP are typically drag racers b/c that is the only place where that kind of power is of any use.


What happened to reading the FAQ thread that you said you were going to read in the newbie section?

muibubbles 11-18-09 01:18 AM

KDR hands down, affordable prices, he wont nickle and dime you. its the ONLY shop ive been to that i felt guilty not paying more while leaving his shop. dave will take care of you

grimple1 11-18-09 02:05 AM

i'm just gonna pluck a number out of thin air... how much would it cost to get 856hp ?

Banzai-Racing 11-18-09 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by AntonG (Post 9629148)
My budget was never discussed in our phone call, i asked how much it will take and what i will need, when i asked if you guys had built a car to thats made this kind of power your response was "we've built drag purpose cars" not really the answer i was looking for. i also asked for a quote or a list of what parts you would use i was told to check out some of your prior builds on your website. what i seen isnt what im looking for. please don't take this response negatively, but your comment challenges my credibility , the last thing i want to have is people thinking I'm not serious with this build, thank you

You most certainly did discuss a budget. You asked if we built "purpose built cars", we said "yes". You were also asked to email us so that a proper quote could be put together, which you never did. Elaine is not going to give you a list of parts for a 700hp build over the phone, that would take hours and there are endless options. She takes impecable notes of every phone contact/ rebuild request.

You were told that every customer gets a webpage built for them and that looking at some of the other projects would give you an idea of the direction you would want to go in. We get phone calls from people like you and people that think a 20B can be installed for under 10K, a minimum of once a day.

Good luck with your project.

Sgtblue 11-18-09 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by AntonG (Post 9629148)
My budget was never discussed in our phone call, i asked how much it will take and what i will need, when i asked if you guys had built a car to thats made this kind of power your response was "we've built drag purpose cars" not really the answer i was looking for. i also asked for a quote or a list of what parts you would use i was told to check out some of your prior builds on your website. what i seen isnt what im looking for. please don't take this response negatively, but your comment challenges my credibility , the last thing i want to have is people thinking I'm not serious with this build, thank you

600 hp is going to be tough to use on the street. If it's not a dedicated drag or track car, that's up in the "I just want something to brag about" category. I know little about building such a car but know enough to know it would be impossible to rattle off a list of parts over the phone.
Consider that it wasn't Banzai's response that challenged your credibility. Maybe it was your questions.

widebodyseven 11-18-09 07:50 AM

Yup
Its hard talking about parts for a engine rebuild over the phone but a 600 hp build thats better off left to emails.

Turblown 11-18-09 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Banzai-Racing (Post 9629448)
Y

We get phone calls from people like you and people that think a 20B can be installed for under 10K, a minimum of once a day.

I remember the good old days of advertising on Rx-7 club, lol...

FDWarrior 11-18-09 10:13 AM

Defined Autoworks did my car, plenty of 3 rotor's(N/A and Turbo), and generally many high horse power rotaries. Defined has a vendor section.

no_more_rice 11-18-09 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 9629294)
No offense but you sound like the typical dreamer that comes on here posting asking questions of this nature. Most people that take on a large build do some research on their own. Imagine how many calls from dreamers people/shops like Banzai get. People looking for 550-600 HP are typically drag racers b/c that is the only place where that kind of power is of any use.

Hey, someone with some common sense. The noobs posting about "I want 500+ hp" around here gets incredibly tedious over the years (and they never have the $$$ to make it happen anyway, because it's not just the motor, EVERYTHING needs to be upgraded at those power levels, every single component on the drivetrain, brakes, and chassis).

To the OP: go drive a well sorted 500 rwhp single turbo 13b, and you'll see how peaky and unmanageble it is for anything but the drag strip or Texas freeway rolls. It's bragging rights, and that's about it. Most of them don't even run superior 1/4 miles times except in the hands of a pro like ErnieT. These cars are PLENTY quick (good enough to turn 11s) with 350-400 rwhp, and the power is controllable. The guys who track (roadrace) these cars also stay in that power range (aside from the fact that the engine is much more reliable). The guy who runs Rotorsports almost killed himself in a three rotor with 500+. These are light, nimble cars, and you can get in over your head real fast.

Let's get back down to earth, not fantasy land. This car gets into the hands of too many kids with more hormones than common sense, and it's sad.


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