we did and got a heck of alot more torque but the sweet spot is 11psi. But the HP was the same.


-Rikki
(We did go up to 18psi but prove not to be good:(. OUT of there range as most of you guys know.) But the torque was Awsome to me it was not worth the heat,damage and so that is associated with that PSI level. So we just stuck to 11psi. That is where the power is my freinds.

O.K. but damn it aint no 10-30 that is just crazy.....

sign me up. :)

I've never seen the screen look like that on a dynojet. Obviously there are different screen setups you can use, but both shops around here don't use that one...at all. Its the usual one with the dynojet name all over it like the ones you see people post.
Corrected and uncorrected can vary by alot. With a correction factor of 1.05 due to high heat and humidity, you might see 330 corrected, but uncorrected your car might only have made 313 to the wheels roughly.

Tim

Videos dont lie I dont know what else to say.


-Rikki

you could come out to sevenstock and race me...pfs numbers vs and RR&R streetport and the m2 goods!

:)

J

Haha Just watched the video. Good stuff.

Rikki you seriously got a Jethro thing going on. Take that Dash Riprock PFS HP to the track and turn out some times. Nice car, nice tuning. Did you ever reveal your big "secret"? Did you feed that car some of Grannie and Ellie May's viddles? :-P

HAHA, i like that put up or shut up attitude. now im not saying that the power isnt possible, as i could care less. the thing that gets me is how RIKKI is avoiding all questions that are asked to him. what is the A/F ratio, what is your secret sauce? why the hell would you want to keep it a secret. if its real then you would only be bringing more business to your shop. you are a confusing guy. just tell everyone whats going on. are you afraid that we may one day copy what you are doing and put out 355 HP @ 10.5 PSI. cmon spill the beans.
RIKKI MUST NOW STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE. HOW ABOUT THIS ONE, RIKKI, STOP BEING A RIKKI.
KRIS

those are some pretty unbelievable numbers... I got only 306rwhp at 10psi (XS tuned) on a normal port motor with the apex'i rx6.

Obviously you didn't read Ryan's post prior to this. He put on there 11.3 a/f ...

this just doesn't add up
 

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wow 350 hp @ 10-11 lbs of boost... woo hoo... hmmm... if the motor was n/a it would probably only make around 200 hp if that.... now the only thing making power for our motors is BOOST!!!! the more and the faster you suck in air and the more and the faster you take out air will definitely give you the power band you need... at least this is how i see power being produced....

so in order to produce torque and hp you have to have BOOST!!!!

hmmmm...


car 53:cool:

Damn man just let it be. Rikki, I give you much props. Now I know I am young and I am not as experienced as a lot of the guys on this forum, but I can still give you advice. Stop posting this stuff, because all of the haters are going to be all over it, and that will just keep pissing you off. You have nothing to prove man, your car is awesome, and you seem to have everything together. I feel the same way about the dyno numbers as everyone else, I think they suck, because I am JEALOUS:) and so is everyone else. All I have to say is that the only way to shut these people up is to take it to the track, and if they don't believe you then, they never will. Some people have a hard time believing some things when the people that are involved are not liked (PFS) but who the hell cares. You know what your car does, and you are the only person that it should matter to. And I don't know if FD3BOOST was kidding or not, but if you are employed at PFS now, maybe that will shut up all of those that say he just gives you free stuff for other reasons. It sounds like this may have been something in the works for a while, and there couldn't be a better time than now. I am happy for you man, I truly am, hopefully I will have my car up to par with yours soon:)

I try to keep an open mind about stuff like this because, well, you just never know... but I will say this... that is the 2nd well over average dyno post form PFS in a very short time. Both backed by videos and dyno plots. Either the guy REALLY knows what he is doing, or he is completely full of crap.
I'd like to think he knows what he is doing... but there are just too many shady people out there trying to make a quick buck not to have some skepticism.
If its true, right on, if not... shame on you! :mad:

a local guy here...goes to the same shop I do..he just put on the m2 bb twins like mine...he had it tuned at xs and it put out a very nice 361 hp (from what i remember hearing from RR&R) at 14-15 lbs of boost on his upgraded twins and ported motor.

i will also add that these are the expected numbers from m2 for this setup. take a look at my mod list. he had nearly the identical setup. m2 claims 400 hp off thier turbos at 18 lbs of boost....his car was right on track for what m2 expected.

dave at kdr is tuning an m2 bb car right now with the similar mods to rikkis and no streetport...it will be interesting to see how that turns out.

i must add that the m2s are MUCH larger turbos and this guys car is very very well built. How is it that m2 can get comparable numbers with their larger turbos vs rikkis little stockers?

nice data gordon....good may come from this thread yet...all the ballyhoo and finally some smart talk.

so the question is....what would propaganda guy have to do to his car to get it to pull those kind of numbers he is chestbeating about?

My guess...turn up the boost....just like what gordon had to say above...

the combo of the low boost and the high daytime temps mentioned earlier make those numbers hard to believe....those numbers would be good even at fifteen lbs of boost...


Im sleepy..but something seems amiss

laters

j

WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU TAKE OUT THE A/C???

Glassman's question: I don't understand why you didn't bother going up to 14 or 15 psi. Surely you would have made more power, and even if you thought you would make just more torque why is that so bad on rotary???

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Rikki's response: we did and got a heck of alot more torque but the sweet spot is 11psi. But the HP was the same.


So you uped the boost but it didn't raise the rwhp at all? It only raised the torque? Even at 18psi?

I don't understand... After 13 psi, the HP numbers stop going up and only the tq increases?

Seriously I don't know how that would happen. Something I'm missing?

If you dyno'd it at 18 psi or even anything over 13 psi and the HP didn't stay the same(but from what I read you're saying it's the same hp at 11-13 psi as it is at 15-18 psi) then can you tell me what you remember the numbers being at high PSI levels?

Care to tell use how hot it was there today? It was at least 98 degrees if not hotter here it pa. Now you're closer to the equator and further south so it should have been at least one or two degrees hotter. At least it always is on the weather reports on t.v. for that area. And since you put this up earlier tonight I take it that you dyno'd in the daytime? What time of day was it?

Since you work at PFS (or practicaly work there) can you tell us what brand dyno it is? Dynojet or some other? I believe if memory serves me correctly there are some brand dyno's that average showing higher dyno numbers than a Dynojet. Heard the aussies talking about it before.

If you did that in 95+(at least) degree heat, think of what power you'll make in cooler weather(i.e. 60-70 degree)...

I smell a PFS "Magic Port" here.... :rolleyes:

sorry, didn't notice there was more pages :D

I smell a PFS "Magic Port" here.... :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

Haha:)

Rikki, could you enlighten us on the pfs magic port please? Any pics of how he ports?

I was there and witnessed the dyno. I had no doubts about Ryans rwhp but I thought I would go check it out for myself. Just because he is out of the norm does not mean that he is rigging the numbers. What would he have to gain from that? I have Rikkis back on this one... in saying... put up or shut up. PFS did a great job tuning that car. Bottom line. Cant wait to see how this translates to 1/4 times. :D

You guys are to much..

Way to GO Ryan...

For all you doubter and nay sayers.. w/ Twins.

Don't sing it (type it), Bring it..

My $$$ on Ryan..

I'm not really taking sides here but I still doubt the dyno at PFS is healthy.

I dare Ryan to take his car to KDR and get another corrected run to corroborate. If it more or less matches I imagine everyone would be happy. I'll pay for the run at KDR.

I'm not the type to call bs on someone, however, this is way too hard to believe. Some people have mentioned putting your car on another dyno, which sounds like a good idea for everyone who doesn't believe you.

sounds like its dyno time at kdr....you got two boys willing to pay for it....time to put the munny where da mouth is!

hehe

j

It is hard for me to believe too!!! If it is really true, your stock non-seq. twin are flowing as much air as a single turbo at that PSI!!!

RYAN,

STOP LYING...YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT MUCH POWER BECAUSE GORDON MONSEN SAID SO.

Everyone pulled this exact same shit when Ray posted and said that he made 627rwhp or whatever with a full exhaust and no NOS. Jealous Gordon was the ring leader at flaming Ray for his post. So Ray did what you jealous assholes wanted and went to an independent dyno and put down like 619. As soon as that happened the post just disappeared. Gordon and everyone else just ran away with their tails between their legs.

With Ray and Peter tuning Ryan's car what would make you think that they couldn't pull these numbers. Peter has been doing this shit for a long fucking time. I think he knows a few tricks.

I agree that if someone posts that they make 350+ rwhp at 11 psi then there are some questions that arise. But he posted graphs and a fucking movie. Get over it. Ryan made more power then you.