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mdp 04-09-18 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12265801)
prove it

Prove that it isn't. I shopped for a new red 1995 RX-7 R2 in November of 1995. My dealer, John Hein Mazda in San Diego, searched the national inventory, unfortunately, there weren't any 1995 red R2s available at that time. As far as North American marking goes, there was no such thing as an R3. The 1995 North American sales brochure that the dealer gave me listed only a R2.

mdp 04-09-18 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by 94 R2 (Post 12265954)
Looks photoshopped. Please provide more proof.

Pardon my language, but you are being a jerk about this. Gee, there is some documentation calling it a R3. You have two people Dale and myself who have seen a 1995 sales brochure and state that it lists only the R2. If that is not enough and you are really interested, call up Mazda's North American number (800) 222-5500. Ask the nice lady about information on the 1995 RX-7 R3. If you are too lazy to do that then we are really wasting our time with this post.

Montego 04-09-18 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mdp (Post 12266787)
Pardon my language, but you are being a jerk about this.

I think he was just joking :)


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12265798)
.... anyways, we know the 93 is an R1, and the 94 is an R2, but is the 1995 an R3? the parts fish says R3.

Is that parts fish from an official Mazda site? Better yet, where did it come from?

https://www.rx7club.com/attachments/...r2-r3-1993.png

mdp 04-09-18 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Montego (Post 12266789)
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I think he was just joking :)

Oops! my bad, and apologies to j9fd3s if you were. :blush:

adam c 04-09-18 01:26 PM

Just because someone put an R3 listing on a parts list doesnt, mean it is an actual model of the car. Parts lists often contain clerical errors.

I dont know why this is even a discussion. Everyone knows there is no R3.

BLUE TII 04-09-18 01:44 PM


Just because someone put an R3 listing on a parts list doesnt, mean it is an actual model of the car. Parts lists often contain clerical errors.

I dont know why this is even a discussion. Everyone knows there is no R3.



:dunno:
This is called history.
Some people are interested in learning history and some aren't

You research and find out if it was just a typo or if Mazda had planned to call the 1995 R2 models R3 models at some point.

You know, like the Mazda RX-7 M2.1020 that was also never produced, but then that development/parts went into the RX-7 SP project.

History. Facts. Fun.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...384cb1a736.jpg

adam c 04-09-18 03:46 PM

I'm not going to waste my time researching history because someone on the internet makes a statement known to be "fake news". There is no R3. Thats a fact. Everyone knows it. Anyone that states that there might be an R3 is just blowing smoke up your ass.

My ass is closed. No smoke is getting in there. There is no R3. End of story!!!

j9fd3s 04-09-18 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Montego (Post 12266789)
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I think he was just joking :)



Is that parts fish from an official Mazda site? Better yet, where did it come from?

https://www.rx7club.com/attachments/...r2-r3-1993.png

its right from the index of the mircofilm. i was actually looking for Canadian cars, or a chart that listed the models/colors, but found this instead.

it is interesting because we've just called the 1995's R2's, and do we know that for a fact or are we wrong? it does seem like this is the only place that says R3, but its worth asking.

j9fd3s 04-09-18 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by mdp (Post 12266786)
Prove that it isn't. I shopped for a new red 1995 RX-7 R2 in November of 1995. My dealer, John Hein Mazda in San Diego, searched the national inventory, unfortunately, there weren't any 1995 red R2s available at that time. As far as North American marking goes, there was no such thing as an R3. The 1995 North American sales brochure that the dealer gave me listed only a R2.

i'm not seriously thinking that the 1995's were R3's, but it has been a long time, and have we seen any 1995 specific documentation?

also part of my job involves me petitioning to update the Autocare database for the year, make, model. they have standards and you can't just send them an email and say hey you have this wrong, you need proof. documentation.

just you saying you had a brochure isn't enough.

i know we all wish we had this time machine, but Mazda made a last run of Rx7's in December, so if you waited there would have been red R packages (in about a month i can tell you how many)

cymfc3s 04-10-18 11:25 PM

Regardless, I highly recommend you acquire yourself a 1995 R2.

Molotovman 04-11-18 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 12266835)
I'm not going to waste my time researching history because someone on the internet makes a statement known to be "fake news". There is no R3. Thats a fact. Everyone knows it. There is no R3. End of story!!!

You know it. I know It. Everyone knows it.

j9fd3s 04-11-18 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by cymfc3s (Post 12267208)
Regardless, I highly recommend you acquire yourself a 1995 R2.

i have the coin! actually i was thinking about a BN1 Austin Healey.

BLUE TII 04-11-18 10:31 AM


actually i was thinking about a BN1 Austin Healey.
:icon_tup:

Natey 04-18-18 12:16 PM

Let's not overthink it too much. I regularly hear people see an FD and call it an RX-8. It looks like that happened in the ad too. There definitely was an R3 RX-8.

cymfc3s 04-19-18 10:28 PM

I would love a big Healey. Though I think the RX7 will be a better investment (I can't believe I just wrote that). In all seriousness, Japanese cars from the 80s and 90s are moving up. If you want the ultimate car investment, buy a Japanese race car from the 80s and 90s, ideally with some race provenance.


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 12267270)
i have the coin! actually i was thinking about a BN1 Austin Healey.


av8r01 04-19-18 11:12 PM

my FD on the left, RX-8 R3 on the right and second pic
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...52ed4434a8.jpg

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https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...4eee36e31.jpeg

j9fd3s 04-20-18 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by cymfc3s (Post 12269232)
I would love a big Healey. Though I think the RX7 will be a better investment (I can't believe I just wrote that). In all seriousness, Japanese cars from the 80s and 90s are moving up. If you want the ultimate car investment, buy a Japanese race car from the 80s and 90s, ideally with some race provenance.

agreed. it is so strange to me that people actually LIKE the Rx7's now, i can't drive my Fc without getting a thumbs up, or a compliment or something. its not like the Tr-3 was, but it probably will be at some point.

Natey 04-20-18 11:09 AM

I've been hating on my MSP (Mazdaspeed Protege) for so long that it's becoming kind of cool again too. I had some kid ask about it the other day while I was checking the surf. I was like..THAT car? It's not an evo you know.
Then he told me all about my MSP and how rare and sick it is.

I definitely agree about the FC too. When was the last time you saw a clean unmolested S5 T2 drive by? They're gaining value quick.

j9fd3s 04-20-18 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12269355)
I've been hating on my MSP (Mazdaspeed Protege) for so long that it's becoming kind of cool again too. I had some kid ask about it the other day while I was checking the surf. I was like..THAT car? It's not an evo you know.
Then he told me all about my MSP and how rare and sick it is.

I definitely agree about the FC too. When was the last time you saw a clean unmolested S5 T2 drive by? They're gaining value quick.

those proteges ARE rare. i think the whole time i worked for Mazda we only saw one or two of those. FD's were basically everywhere, i'm still sick of them


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