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dumiinic 06-08-20 12:26 PM

Need helping deciding what size te37 to buy
 
I am currently looking at some TE37 SL 18x9 +45 for my FD. I DO NOT want to roll my fenders. I am also unsure of what tire to put on them so suggestions are always welcome. If you think that the sizing would not work without rolling please inform me on a better size that still looks flush.

yurcivicsux 06-08-20 01:54 PM

18" for sure, TE37's in 17" look too small IMO. the offset and tire rolling is a can of worms and is all subjective.... that is really up to you. i had TE37's in 18 x 9.5 +42 all around and they fit perfect with no rolling and i'm pretty lowered also but they were a little to sunk in for my taste especially in the rear. i ran 255/35 hankook tires all around which is a baby stretch.

i would suggest something like:
Front 18 x 9.5 +42 (ish... could as low as +30)
Rear 18 x 10.5 + 42 (ish could be as low as +30)
see the below link play around here and do a lot of research.

https://www.willtheyfit.com/

this all comes down to your ride height, camber, desired look, driveability etc. there is a lot of information here if you invest some time.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...ition-1144016/

realq86 02-24-21 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by yurcivicsux (Post 12417318)
18" for sure, TE37's in 17" look too small IMO. the offset and tire rolling is a can of worms and is all subjective.... that is really up to you. i had TE37's in 18 x 9.5 +42 all around and they fit perfect with no rolling and i'm pretty lowered also but they were a little to sunk in for my taste especially in the rear. i ran 255/35 hankook tires all around which is a baby stretch.

i would suggest something like:
Front 18 x 9.5 +42 (ish... could as low as +30)
Rear 18 x 10.5 + 42 (ish could be as low as +30)
see the below link play around here and do a lot of research.

https://www.willtheyfit.com/

this all comes down to your ride height, camber, desired look, driveability etc. there is a lot of information here if you invest some time.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...ition-1144016/


@yurcivicsux Thanks for this info. Looking at the updated selection on VividRaciing I'm seeing TE37 Saga S-plus 18x10 +35mm all the way around. Any comment on this?

BLUE TII 02-24-21 01:45 PM

Wheel width doesnt matter really (till you get to extremes) , what matters is wheel offset and tire width.

To fit the widest tire you can you want as close to stock 50mm offset as possible.

Every 1mm offset off of 50mm is 2mm less tire width you can run (because the tire centers itself on the wheel.

So, a +40mm offset needs 10mm narrower tire than +45 offset.

You could run 255/35-18 on 18x11 +45 (okay, thats a stretch XD) but only 225/40-18 on 18x8 +30 offset or only 205/45-18 on 18x8 +20 offset.

play around with this-

https://www.willtheyfit.com/wheels/

realq86 02-24-21 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by BLUE TII (Post 12457026)
Wheel width doesnt matter really (till you get to extremes) , what matters is wheel offset and tire width.

To fit the widest tire you can you want as close to stock 50mm offset as possible.

Every 1mm offset off of 50mm is 2mm less tire width you can run (because the tire centers itself on the wheel.

So, a +40mm offset needs 10mm narrower tire than +45 offset.

You could run 255/35-18 on 18x11 +45 (okay, thats a stretch XD) but only 225/40-18 on 18x8 +30 offset or only 205/45-18 on 18x8 +20 offset.

play around with this-

https://www.willtheyfit.com/wheels/

@BLUE TII Thanks for this great perspective. So I take it for the FD, we are outward limited (not hitting the fenders), and not worried about inward (hitting shocks/springs)? So on the quest of staying close to +50mm what's the extreme upper bound of width you mentioned?

I've seen the willtheyfit.com but don't know what's the max bounds for our cars, so didn't find it being helpful.

Rocketeerbandit 02-24-21 02:15 PM

I’m running 18x9.5 +40 in front with a mild roll and 18x10+40 in the rear with no roll. 255/35 and 265/35.

c0rbin9 02-24-21 10:57 PM

Props for not rolling your fenders. FDs need all the panel strength they can get, not a good idea to compromise that.

BLUE TII 02-25-21 03:33 PM

Regarding how much room inward is available- the max wheel backspace available is between 7.5 and 7.77 inches front/rear on the FD.

I run 18x11 +45 (7.77" BS) with 295mm wide tires, but thats max camber and roled fenders on the outside.

How much room to the fender lip depends on how much camber you run. Stock alignment is 0 deg front camber and you can get up to -2.5 deg with the adjusters.

Each degree of camber provides 5.5mm to the fender.

When I had stock front fenders and -2.5 deg camber a 17x8.5 +30 wearing 255/40-17 would just barely hit the fender lip.
To equate that to 0 deg camber-
5.5mm times my 2.5 deg equals 13.75mm. Doubled because tire centers itself on wheel and you would be limited to a 205/45-17 on 17x8.5 +30 with factory alignment.


mike_lam 05-20-22 09:22 PM

Didn't want to create a new thread, but didn't want to highjack a thread. I'm currently waiting on my FD to be delivered but I do have some TE's sitting around. Specs are 18x9 +39 square. I was wondering if someone has some insight on what spacers I would need, if any, to get a flush fit. Not planning to run any camber and going to lower a bit but not slam. Just a nice, clean, and conservative look.

twinturborx7pete 05-20-22 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by mike_lam (Post 12519109)
Didn't want to create a new thread, but didn't want to highjack a thread. I'm currently waiting on my FD to be delivered but I do have some TE's sitting around. Specs are 18x9 +39 square. I was wondering if someone has some insight on what spacers I would need, if any, to get a flush fit. Not planning to run any camber and going to lower a bit but not slam. Just a nice, clean, and conservative look.

Tire size will matter.

Rolled fenders?

mike_lam 05-20-22 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by twinturborx7pete (Post 12519120)
Tire size will matter.

Rolled fenders?

need help with tire size too. I would like to avoid rolling the fenders

Natey 05-21-22 10:35 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3d92f5c1d6.jpg
17x 10 +48 on 255/40 squared. No roll, no pull, no crazy camber, no rub.

EDIT: Sorry, I was replying to the OP. Mike, you can get away with 5mm spacers I'll bet, and fit some 245's easy. 39 is close.

the_saint 05-21-22 11:29 AM

If an option I would prefer a square set up vs staggered just from the option of being able to rotate tires F to R.

I have a staggered set of TE-37s 17 inch (225/45/17 and 255/40/17) don't recall the offsets, but they were a deal and something I didn't think of almost 2 decades ago.. The tire options seem better in the 18 inch size. Agree that the 18 inch wheels looks more 'modern' on the RX-7, but accentuate the smallish sized OEM rotors (if still stock).

@Rocketeerbandit Do you think you would be able to fit 265/35/18 F&R 18x10 +40? A square 255/35/18 on a 18x9 would be the other option.


jorts17 05-29-22 05:56 AM

I run a set of 18x10 +38 square ZE40s. I currently have a 255/35 on the front that has a 9.6” tread width, so somewhat large for a 255.

You can definitely run a 10 +40 with a 265 but will need to roll the front fenders and run more camber than the stock alignment.

I’ve driven my car fairly hard at the tail of the dragon and have only barely kissed the front fender liners with the tire under one large compression. No other rubbing.

chrxx 06-18-23 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by jorts17 (Post 12520064)
I run a set of 18x10 +38 square ZE40s. I currently have a 255/35 on the front that has a 9.6” tread width, so somewhat large for a 255.

You can definitely run a 10 +40 with a 265 but will need to roll the front fenders and run more camber than the stock alignment.

I’ve driven my car fairly hard at the tail of the dragon and have only barely kissed the front fender liners with the tire under one large compression. No other rubbing.


Would you happen to have any photos of your wheel setup @jorts17
Any update to this thread on what you guys decided on on your own setups ?
Currently shopping for TE37's hoping for an 18" square setup and wider wheels (10 or 10.5) but im very new to fitment and looking for some inspiration on what others have done.

Any guidance would be welcome and thank you!

BLUE TII 06-18-23 08:20 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ec3276e418.jpg
I bought 18x11 +45 Volk TE37 Saga S Plus to take the place of my 18x11 +45 Forgestar F14.

Requires coilovers, front fender roll and front camber.

I have run 285/3018, 295/30-18 and 305/30-18 front and rear so far.

Looking to try 315/30-18 next.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c6db4659e1.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a726a4e672.jpg

chrxx 06-18-23 09:55 PM

that looks so good. When you get your TE's mounted post a photo too!

@BLUE TII Im in SoCal - just in case youre nearby - whats a reputable place to buy TE's at?

BLUE TII 06-18-23 10:15 PM

Im in Norcal and Rishie Garg at Automotive R&D in Freemont is my go to for new wheels.

chrxx 06-30-23 10:34 PM

I just got a square set up of TE37's at 18x10 with +38 offset - I havent installed wheels on a car before and was wondering if anybody had any advice if I need to roll or pull fenders.
I have ohlins all round and I dont believe theyre too lowered (im not sure as im inheriting the suspension setup from the previous owner.)

Any advice will be appreciated Thanks!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...b6b8a01751.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1e966bef32.jpg

ptrhahn 06-30-23 10:48 PM

IMO, lowered car with aftermarket wheels = rolled front fenders no matter what. My first setup was 17X8" +38 SSR Integrals with 245/40/17, and standard lowering springs (Koni/Eibach I believe), and that lunched my fender lip.

BLUE TII 06-30-23 11:07 PM

To fit 18x10 +38 255/35-18 you will need to roll the front fenders and max the camber adjustment.

265/35-18 can fit width wise, but most tires of this size are too large diameter and will rub the fender liner turning.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...1f0f7918b0.jpg



the_saint 06-30-23 11:16 PM

Great looking wheels.

I want to refinish my white Volks to a color similar to yours.

chrxx 07-01-23 01:14 AM

thank you guys for the responses @BLUE_TII @PTRHAHN - im gonna get the front fenders rolled and update you guys with fitment and photos once I get it done, I appreciate it!

@the_saint me too man, got super lucky and found these on Marketplace with tires already at a really good price. Researched extensively to make sure they werent reps/fakes either and owner was legit.
Once you powder coat yours would love to see em!

By the way - do you guys have photos of your current setups (if theyre different from your previous photos).


BLUE TII 07-01-23 01:55 PM

That Bronze finish is an anodized finish.

The closest powdercoat match to Rays anodized bronze I have seen is Prismatic Powders "Chrome Bronze" with a top coat of "Casper Clear".

person 07-01-23 04:29 PM

Big Props for not rolling your fenders


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