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colditz_II 05-10-18 12:34 PM

I agree -- and if it wasn't VR I'd be in talks haha. I just can't have two red Mazdas in the garage..

As long as the doors are OK I'm fine with the interior on the SSM. 2/3 of the console panels are available from Mazda still and I have one good radio console that I could swap into it..

Fritz Flynn 05-10-18 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by colditz_II (Post 12273864)
I agree -- and if it wasn't VR I'd be in talks haha. I just can't have two red Mazdas in the garage..

As long as the doors are OK I'm fine with the interior on the SSM. 2/3 of the console panels are available from Mazda still and I have one good radio console that I could swap into it..

I'll take the 95.

Buy a hard top and paint it any color I want.....after all they ALL have cheap thin paint that need attention ;)

Bottomline: IMO anything over 27k for the SSM is too much and personally I wouldn't pay 21 LOL. I can point you in 4 other directions as well including my base SSM :D

Narfle 05-10-18 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12273863)
This is a way better deal/car and it's already lower than 30k at the buy it now price. I'm betting the seller would take 27: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-Mazda-...Baxp-j&vxp=mtr

I'd buy it just for the cargo net...


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f62dc93c2b.png


I think I have the net, but where do I get those anchors, and what do they mount to?!?

Fritz Flynn 05-10-18 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12273874)
I'd buy it just for the cargo net...


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...f62dc93c2b.png


I think I have the net, but where do I get those anchors, and what do they mount to?!?

I have some new cargo nets and probably some net anchors as well.....PM if interested :)

94 R2 05-10-18 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12273807)

I can see this one selling for 40k: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RX-7-Turbo/...Fa8R5E&vxp=mtr

If I had to pick an FD on the market other than the one I bought, it would be this one. My R2 is the first and only non-white car I've ever bought as white is my color of choice. Thing is, I'm not a fan of tan interior, and swapping it is not something I'll take on. I could also do without the sunroof. Hypothetically, if white R2s were ever produced and one was as clean as this or my car...I'd be the highest bidder. But no, so SSM it was. :)

It absolutely was an emotional buy, however. You are spot on. What made the decision easy was knowing that the chances of finding a lower-mileage, cleaner SSM R2 on the market was slim to none.

Natey 05-10-18 04:49 PM

They're definitely jumping in price right now. 25k sees about right for a clean well sorted one these days.

15 or so for a high mileage driver, 40 for a garage queen R1 or R2, and 25 for something that's been driven but taken care of.

amp 05-11-18 09:13 AM

was offered 30k on my "high mileage" ssm r2 recently... probably should have taken it but turned it down..
wasnt due to price... just hard to let go after regretting the other fds ive sold...
...and still dont understand why 88k on a 25 year old car is considered high mileage..

Fritz Flynn 05-11-18 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by amp (Post 12274015)
was offered 30k on my "high mileage" ssm r2 recently... probably should have taken it but turned it down..
wasnt due to price... just hard to let go after regretting the other fds ive sold...
...and still dont understand why 88k on a 25 year old car is considered high mileage..

If it's stock that's impressive!!!!

On a diesel truck 88k is just broken in on a turbo sports car that's a ton of miles.

Montego 05-11-18 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by amp (Post 12274015)
...and still dont understand why 88k on a 25 year old car is considered high mileage..

That's because people expect you to be a storage facility and not an actual owner.

:)
  • 88,000 miles / 25 years = 3520 miles per year = 293 miles a month = 73 miles a week. A real owner that bought his car for enjoyment and used it as a weekend car, very likely kept up with repairs
  • 40,000 miles / 25 years = 1600 miles per year = 133 miles a month = 33 miles a week. Owned by some guy who enjoys being a storage facility for the next man. Car is likely in great condition but expect many original plastic/rubber components to be old a brittle.
  • 20,000 miles / 25 years = 800 miles a year = 66 miles a month = 16 miles a week. Basically owned by some guy who prefers wacking off to the the car rather than to drive it. Expect the car to be in excellent condition. Be extremely weary of jizz looking stains on the carpet.
  • 10,000 miles / 25 years = 400 miles a year = 33 miles a month = 8 miles a week. Expect the car to be in pristine condition and completely covered in jizz from bumper to bumper. Prior to driving, strongly suggest filling a pool full of lysol and letting the car soak in it fully submerged for about an hour.

Fritz Flynn 05-11-18 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by montego (Post 12274067)
that's because people expect you to be a storage facility and not an actual owner.

:)
  • 88,000 miles / 25 years = 3520 miles per year = 293 miles a month = 73 miles a week. A real owner that bought his car for enjoyment and used it as a weekend car, very likely kept up with repairs
  • 40,000 miles / 25 years = 1600 miles per year = 133 miles a month = 33 miles a week. Owned by some guy who enjoys being a storage facility for the next man. Car is likely in great condition but expect many original plastic/rubber components to be old a brittle.
  • 20,000 miles / 25 years = 800 miles a year = 66 miles a month = 16 miles a week. Basically owned by some guy who prefers wacking off to the the car rather than to drive it. Expect the car to be in excellent condition. Be extremely weary of jizz looking stains on the carpet.
  • 10,000 miles / 25 years = 400 miles a year = 33 miles a month = 8 miles a week. Expect the car to be in pristine condition and completely covered in jizz from bumper to bumper. Prior to driving, strongly suggest filling a pool full of lysol and letting the car soak in it fully submerged for about an hour.

lol................:D

Narfle 05-11-18 02:35 PM

BAT ALERT!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mazda-rx-7-12/

cloud9 05-11-18 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Montego (Post 12274067)
That's because people expect you to be a storage facility and not an actual owner.

:)
  • 88,000 miles / 25 years = 3520 miles per year = 293 miles a month = 73 miles a week. A real owner that bought his car for enjoyment and used it as a weekend car, very likely kept up with repairs
  • 40,000 miles / 25 years = 1600 miles per year = 133 miles a month = 33 miles a week. Owned by some guy who enjoys being a storage facility for the next man. Car is likely in great condition but expect many original plastic/rubber components to be old a brittle.
  • 20,000 miles / 25 years = 800 miles a year = 66 miles a month = 16 miles a week. Basically owned by some guy who prefers wacking off to the the car rather than to drive it. Expect the car to be in excellent condition. Be extremely weary of jizz looking stains on the carpet.
  • 10,000 miles / 25 years = 400 miles a year = 33 miles a month = 8 miles a week. Expect the car to be in pristine condition and completely covered in jizz from bumper to bumper. Prior to driving, strongly suggest filling a pool full of lysol and letting the car soak in it fully submerged for about an hour.

:rlaugh:
omg so good

And I agree with the above sentiment that 88k is not a lot of miles for a 25 year old car. Sure, wear parts need replacing, but if the car has been properly kept up, what's the difference..?

Fritz Flynn 05-12-18 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12274095)

Based on the UIM that car sat somewhere not so comfy for 10 years LOL


Originally Posted by cloud9 (Post 12274151)
:rlaugh:
omg so good

And I agree with the above sentiment that 88k is not a lot of miles for a 25 year old car. Sure, wear parts need replacing, but if the car has been properly kept up, what's the difference..?

88k miles on a bone stock FD is A LOT of miles. 70 to 80k miles might be the best time to sell a well kept stock FD because it's about to get very expensive as the miles pile up. Most of these cars with that type mileage that are bone stock will need the following parts at 100k miles or less:
Engine and almost everything attached to the engine LOL
Trans
All suspension rubber parts and there are lot. Possibly even the ball joint parts as well and there are a lot.
All the weather stripping is hurting
Most of the switches are getting close to wearing out esp drivers side window
Window motors are tired unless the car was garaged kept. The window weather strip on this car starts to catch the window on the way up and it wears out the motor.
Antenna likely already dead
Fuel pump is dying
Starter is dying
AST and radiator are very close to splitting
Fan motors are dying
All the harnesses in the engine bay are close to having issues
defrost vents......forget about it they are about to crumble or already have. Good luck pulling the cluster that cluster hood is also about to explode into pieces.
blah blah blah etc...etc...

THIS IS A WHY A NICELY KEPT LOW MILEAGE FD IS WORTH TWICE AS MUCH AS A STOCK FD WITH 4 TIMES THE MILEAGE. That said it's not worth 3 times as much for all the reasons we've already discussed and that's why 40k is a stretch.

At this time the only FD's I'd be interested in spending big money on would be low mileage varieties (to me that's 20k miles and lower). And also they can't be barn finds which makes them extremely hard to find.

amp 05-12-18 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12274045)
If it's stock that's impressive!!!!

not stock..

Narfle 05-12-18 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12274215)
Based on the UIM that car sat somewhere not so comfy for 10 years LOL

East coast car.


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12274215)
Most of these cars with that type mileage that are bone stock will need the following parts at 100k miles or less:
Engine and almost everything attached to the engine LOL
Trans
All suspension rubber parts and there are lot. Possibly even the ball joint parts as well and there are a lot.
All the weather stripping is hurting
Most of the switches are getting close to wearing out esp drivers side window
Window motors are tired unless the car was garaged kept. The window weather strip on this car starts to catch the window on the way up and it wears out the motor.
Antenna likely already dead
Fuel pump is dying
Starter is dying
AST and radiator are very close to splitting
Fan motors are dying
All the harnesses in the engine bay are close to having issues
defrost vents......forget about it they are about to crumble or already have. Good luck pulling the cluster that cluster hood is also about to explode into pieces.
blah blah blah etc...etc...

Good information, if a little alarmist. A lot depends on how well you keep it. If you leave it in the salt and sun it wont fare well. Of course, not many of us are the original owner.

TwinCharged RX7 05-12-18 05:44 PM

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Just got a 93 touring, blown motor, but otherwise stock for $5k. 80k Miles.

Fritz Flynn 05-13-18 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12274240)
East coast car.



Good information, if a little alarmist. A lot depends on how well you keep it. If you leave it in the salt and sun it wont fare well. Of course, not many of us are the original owner.

I can only speak to the majority of the stock higher mileage cars that I've encountered and typically the maintenance wasn't great. If the car doesn't come with 2 inch binder full of receipts for maintenance I'd be concerned. Of course any car that comes with a binder that thick may also lead to reasons for concern...........LOL :D

BOTTOMLINE: this is an expensive car to own, drive and maintain.......JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TURBO SPORTS CAR.

As far as practical value when shopping for one you typically either pay up front or end up with a basket case that you are sorting out for years. Just for the record every low mileage FD I've purchased has run well with no major issues BUT I've also never driven one over 10k miles as I tend to sell them within a 3 year period or so. Also it's important to note that with each passing year your low mileage car is closer to exploding with both minor and major issues.


Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12274260)
Just got a 93 touring, blown motor, but otherwise stock for $5k. 80k Miles.

Nice!

Very, VERY good deal but that 95 is still the deal of the decade!

Fritz Flynn 05-14-18 08:30 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222968820524?rmvSB=true

Sold for 21k so someone got a decent deal.

Montego 05-14-18 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12274483)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222968820524?rmvSB=true

Sold for 21k so someone got a decent deal.


I was kinda surprised it didn't sell for more. The car seemed legit

estevan62274 05-14-18 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12274483)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222968820524?rmvSB=true

Sold for 21k so someone got a decent deal.

Wouldn't be surprised to see it relisted by a dealer for more $$$$.... trying to flip it.

djseven 05-14-18 03:32 PM

Original engine and I didnt see compression numbers posted. That $21k FD could cost $25-28K real quick.

Fritz Flynn 05-15-18 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by djseven (Post 12274608)
Original engine and I didnt see compression numbers posted. That $21k FD could cost $25-28K real quick.

Yep!

At this time most any FD that's stock even with low miles isn't going to be a very reliable car. As in I wouldn't drive it on long trips until it's completely trust worthy (driven for 2500 miles or more with zero issues and thoroughly inspected).

Bare minimum this ssm touring car will most likely need:
Gas tank, fuel pump sock and pump wires etc...inspected
All fluids flushed and refilled, possibly new fuel filter, pulsation dampener etc...etc...
probably tires (look great but how old are they)

One quick note looks like the car has been repainted on the drivers side based upon the drivers side brake vent and lets just say likely not a done well ;)

Bottomline: when it comes to 25 year old sports cars in most instances it's a case of buyer beware to some degree or another.

j a r o d 05-15-18 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by estevan62274 (Post 12274590)
Wouldn't be surprised to see it relisted by a dealer for more $$$$.... trying to flip it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Mazda-...IAAOSwZBha3iqh

Haha $40k...didn't even take new pictures.

Fritz Flynn 05-16-18 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by j a r o d (Post 12274963)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Mazda-...IAAOSwZBha3iqh

Haha $40k...didn't even take new pictures.

It's the same person listing it or sale didn't go through. So after getting 21k at auction and sale not finalizing they figure 40 is a good start LOL

Molotovman 05-16-18 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn (Post 12275020)
It's the same person listing it or sale didn't go through. So after getting 21k at auction and sale not finalizing they figure 40 is a good start LOL

I didn't even notice the fender vent at the first look, good catch!

Definitely not a $30 or $40k car. The seller needs to replace all the '93 dash and console plastics.


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