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gr0undz3r0 10-11-02 11:37 PM

Why did they name them T2
 
It may be a dumb question, But My buddy just asked and I dont know. Turbo2. no idea. Shed some light brothers

Rx-7Addict 10-11-02 11:43 PM

It is the 2nd turbo model Mazda has made for the RX-7


The first turbo model was the Japan-only 12A turbo.

gr0undz3r0 10-11-02 11:45 PM

Thanx.

gr0undz3r0 10-11-02 11:45 PM

Did they ever get any of those over here, anyone got any pix

Icemark 10-12-02 12:18 AM

They were orginally going to be called the GT
http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/arti...cd-0486-01.jpg
and be available without all the power gee gaws

mrb63083 10-12-02 12:33 AM

Rx-7Addict you have a nicccee clen car man, heh sorry to go off the subject but I saw your site and saw the pics. nice one man :)

-marshall

RotorDemonGXL 10-12-02 04:53 AM

while we are talking about his clean car and his site... I must agree, nice car... WTF did you do to that NEON....

LMFAO!!!!!!!

I can't believe you took it out on the road!

:rofl: :hah: :rofl: :hah: :rofl: :hah: :rofl: :hah: :rofl: :hah:

peejay 10-12-02 04:54 AM


Originally posted by gr0undz3r0
Did they ever get any of those over here, anyone got any pix
Nope.

The first turbo rotary was the 12A Turbo originally fitted to the '82 Luce. Being a luxury car, the turbo was designed for very quick spooling at the expense of top-end power. "Dead and gone by 6500rpm". No intercooler, only two injectors (800cc/min!), low boost.

For '83 Mazda fitted that same engine to the RX-7 (model GT-X i do believe). The US got the GSL-SE instead. Very similar in spec, right down to the same 14" wheels. The engine was mated to basically an N/A transmission, no idea how well that worked though.

The FC Turbo was the second turbo RX-7 and so it was called the Turbo II.


There are other Turbo II's... for instance there were four different specs of Dodge turbo 4-cylinders, Turbo I, Turbo II, Turbo III, and Turbo IV. Turbo II Dodges are similar to Turbo Is except they have an intercooler. I won't go into the III's and IV's, this is just to let you know that if you hear someone talk about swapping a Turbo II engine into their Reliant/Omni/whatever they most likely are NOT referring to a rotary.

S2-13BT 10-12-02 08:16 AM

Interesting theory.

But...

They are the first turbo RX7 model to be available in the states.

This is relevant because in Australia they are not known as Turbo IIs. We didn't get the 12ATs here either. Why would they be called TIIs in the states when they were the first turbo model available but not in Oz were they were also the first turbo models available?

Did that make sense to anyone?

Oh well.

silverrotor 10-12-02 08:55 AM

Good point. Just like how we don't call ours the Savanna here but In Japan they do.

choritsu-shi 10-12-02 09:14 AM

I was always under the impression that "TurboII" was derived from Mazda's unique "Twin-Scroll Turbocharger" design.

Sensei;)

RylAssassin 10-12-02 09:36 AM

"Twin-Scroll Turbocharger" design. sensei
What is this?? Never heard of such a thing can you tell us a little more?

Icemark 10-12-02 10:23 AM

Twin scroll stuff:
http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/arti...cd-0486-02.jpg
http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/arti...cd-0486-03.jpg

gr0undz3r0 10-12-02 10:27 AM

Nice information. Thanx all.

PJ-4.2L 10-12-02 11:29 AM

What models had those seats in the US? Reason I am asking is because my '86 base has them, and I have never seen them on another car.

PJ

Icemark 10-12-02 11:35 AM

Those are the standard series 4 T2 seats, found in the 87-88 T2 and 88 GTU.

The base did not come with them. someone has swapped them in for you :)

FreedS4 10-12-02 11:50 AM

I always thought that TurboII meant it was a Second Gen Turbo. Maybe I'm wrong.

Chris

rx7withnos 10-12-02 11:59 AM

yep 2nd turbo model

colin204 10-12-02 12:10 PM

name
 
I was always under the impression that "TurboII" was derived from Mazda's unique "Twin-Scroll Turbocharger" design.

Sensei


This is where the name came from, Sensei is correct!!

Rx-7Addict 10-12-02 12:31 PM


Originally posted by RotorDemonGXL
while we are talking about his clean car and his site... I must agree, nice car... WTF did you do to that NEON....

LMFAO!!!!!!!

I can't believe you took it out on the road!



Yes, we drove it around town quite a lot actually. And, heres the best part. We took it to the Friday night cruise-in classic car show at Dairy Queen. There were 50+ cars there and the Neon was a hit! Everyone thought it was hilarious. Good times..

thanks for the compliment

EDIT::: Were those 2 different color Turbo II seats available in the US? The only T2 seats Ive seen have been all one color, either grey cloth, red cloth, grey leather, or the special black leather on the 10AE

LI FC Greg 10-12-02 01:05 PM

T2
 
They were named "Turbo II" because the engine was the second turbo charged RX-7, the first being the Japanese market only turbo first gen with a 12A. Several people have already said this and it is true. This has been published in several books.

You could look at the FD as the "Turbo III" if you really wanted to.

Icemark....the guy who has the S4 Turbo II seats in his base probably has a Sport package car because they came with the S4 turbo seats. Or....some swapped them in if he has 14" wheels and 4 lugs.

ra ra rotory 10-12-02 01:16 PM

i always thought that they called it there turbo 2 because its 2 times faster than ANY honda!!!!! mauahahhaha

Icemark 10-12-02 01:33 PM

Re: T2
 

Originally posted by LI FC Greg
Icemark....the guy who has the S4 Turbo II seats in his base probably has a Sport package car because they came with the S4 turbo seats. Or....some swapped them in if he has 14" wheels and 4 lugs.
Nope the sports did not have those seats. They had the standard base seats.

it wasn't until the 88 GTU did those seats become available on a NA car.

I am sure someone swapped them in.

I have only seen them in Blue and gray cloth, or blue, gray or black leather, but I am sure that off red was probably an available color as well.

BlackRx7 10-12-02 02:54 PM

right click save. right click save, right click save, good find man what is that artical out of?

LI FC Greg 10-12-02 05:16 PM

I looked through the 86 & 87 catalogs and could find no info that the 86 & 87 Sports had the S4 Turbo II seats, so I guess I am wrong. Thanks Icemark, I did not know about that.

Oh....could you post the rest of that Car & Driver article Icemark? Thanks.


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