Weird, the FSM doesn't really say if it's for the GTUs or not, the weird part is, there are about 5 different places that say it's different in everyone. In the images provided by Icemark in the stickies on the main page, it says the GTUs has a standard N/A tranny, in my owners manual it specifies a tII 5th gear, in the FSM it doesn't really say that I can find, and on various webpages with reviews of the cars it says tII as well. Anybody know for sure? I'm pretty sure it's either a .697 (n/a, IIRC) or the .719, since I've used it to verify my speed -> rpm before.

yeah i noticed that in the "sticky" as well. Thanks for you extensive research, that is awesome. Im really excited about getting this car and I cant wait to see how it drives.

Checking in!!!

Here are 2 great examples:

MINE:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/800aa7e4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/97988340.jpg




and here it is for the PURISTS!!!!:


















http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/6f19de91.jpg



Here is my friend's GTUs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...acer/ocopy.jpg


and here they are together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...xandrajah2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...exandrajah.jpg

Checking in!!!

Here are 2 great examples:

MINE:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/800aa7e4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/97988340.jpg




and here it is for the PURISTS!!!!:


















http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/6f19de91.jpg



Here is my friend's GTUs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...acer/ocopy.jpg


and here they are together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...xandrajah2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...exandrajah.jpg

My friend loves her car.......and she likes to bug me cuz her GTUs looks better than mine!

So how far can that red 7 shoot grapefruit? i bet it gets some good distance on them.
lol,
Matt:)

lol....seriously I can fit my foot in there.....sounds soooo sweet tho....headers into Apex N1 duals.....straight pipes and resonator..... LOUD AS FUCK but she loves it.......she will sell the exhaust once I convince her(not gonna be hard) to go RB true dual system....1079 bux plus shipping.

Finally, found a picture of my car, thanks to someone at rotorfest! This is what it looked like about 4 months ago:

http://smackfu.net/images/RotorFest-...s/IMG_2739.jpg

nice.

In section J1 of my FSM on the specs page it has an asterick and then 0.756 and the note says with viscous LSD.Actually I believe it was originally in an older Racing Beat catalog where I found that .756 was the GTUs 5th gear before I ever had a FSM. GTUs does have standard N/A tranny just with a different 5th gear. I believe you're right that the FSM doesn't specify other than saying with viscous LSD,which I believe the only n/a that had a LSD in '89 was the GTUs.I actually haven't looked at the stickies(haven't been in the 2nd gen section in awhile) but I'll try to check them out.

Yeah, i see the FSM says a .756 for an n/a tranny, mine doesn't have an asterik or anything, but my owners manual says it's a .719, kind of strange.

i thought n/a's had a .66 5th gear??? (rpm is right on 3k in 4th and 2k in 5th @50mph, at least on mine....)

not that it matters but it strikes me as kinda strange that the gtus got a shorter final drive and 5th gear i mean thats gotta get anoying when you are on the highway. what like 4k rpm @ 80 mph in 5th?.

can you guys with the gtus pass on the highway in 5th? cus other s5 n/a's sure as hell cant, its a downshift to 4th or even 3rd for any real increase in speed over 70mph.

Yes, my GTUs does 4k @ 80, 3k at 60, etc. And yes, I could pass in 5th.

As posted, the 5th gear and the 4.3 rear ( to help with the 5th gear) with a viscious limited slip are the major difference between regular n/a model and the gtus.


The other differences:
no moonroof ( some escaped with dealer installed pieces)
no a/c ( some did come with a/c from factory... mine did)
TII rims
aluminum hood ( some came out of the factory with steel pieces)
tII suspension
4pot fronts with 1 pot rear brakes ( which were in the gxl and tII)

I think thats most of them, i know there are some other differences...

The comb of final drive and 5th makes a noticable difference.I drove a '90 vert that had roughly the same mods plus a TII intermediate housing.When I shifted into 5th at around 4k rpms it felt pretty weak compared to mine.As long as I stay above 3krpm in 5th I can drive comfortably ith out going to 4th unless I need to pass someone. On the interstate where speeds are 70 or so I very rarely downshift.