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DASUPACAT1 06-21-06 05:34 AM

What do you guys think of this Motoria exhaust?
 
I'm in the hunt for an exhaust when I spotted this on ebay. I want to go with a full 3" Corkpsort till' I saw this. It look real good. Anybody have one? LOkks like the one thats in the group buy center.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Cosmo_TT 06-21-06 06:09 AM

damn looks good and i bet its quieter than the single corksport (quieter/more quiet) however you say it

NCRX791 06-21-06 06:58 AM

I wouldnt do it...I had a ssautochrome single on my n/a and it changed the color b/c the heat was so strong..and eventually it broke the bracket hangers...and they had to be rewelded on....and then they broke again. SSA is not a good company...just an opinon.

SexInDaRex 06-21-06 08:23 AM

ss dont make it, its made by motoria i have heard good things about these exhausts. do a search...

D Walker 06-21-06 10:12 AM

the funny thing about people and the cheap ebay parts is it seems to me that they expect to pay nothing and have it last forever. My personal experience(albiet limited) has been that the stuff is OK, just not premium- kind of like buying a part at Autozone vs the Dealer or NAPA etc.
As an example- we had here in the shop a el-cheapo tubi mani for a DSM to display various Garrett turbos so people could gawk at them while they pondered how much they could really spend. A kid who simply cant afford much bought the manifold from us and has simply abused the piss out of it. Hes "street raced" it, taken it to the orad course and beat on it, overheated the engine a couple of times, has NO flex coupler in the DP at all, everything that SHOULD kill a tubular manifold. THere is still not a single crack in it, and if he took the time to shine it up it would look brand new after all this.

Basically the way I look at it is pipe is pipe- HKS pipe is not better than Apexi pipe and vice versa- what matters is the fitment and welds-and since 90% of these exhaust are machine welded, its not really an issue. ANother example is we had a guy come in with an exhaust he had bought for an EVO, which is half the cost of the TurboXS stuff we normally recommend. We honestly thought it was going to be crap, but when we put it on it fit BETTER than the TXS and sounds about the same.

I saw this very exhaust and had considered picking one up as a trial unit on my own FC, but probably wont- if you get it let me know how it goes so I can file it away for future reference.

Aaron Cake 06-21-06 11:12 AM

The description says "2.25" tips, but that doesn't match the picture. The tips are HUGE and in my opinion very ugly.


Originally Posted by NCRX791
I wouldnt do it...I had a ssautochrome single on my n/a and it changed the color b/c the heat was so strong..and eventually it broke the bracket hangers...and they had to be rewelded on....and then they broke again. SSA is not a good company...just an opinon.

All stainless exhaust will change colour due to heat. Nature of the beast. Chrome will last a little longer but will blue as well. Personaly I love the fact that my stainless mufflers have a yellow/dark tinge due to the heat.

adrock3217 06-21-06 11:25 AM

I'd hit it.

WNT2CREALPAIN 06-21-06 12:02 PM

Ive been wanting that exhaust system.

Some guy on the forum made those and did a group buy I think.

I believe he made a single setup also.

Trav 06-21-06 12:20 PM

I bought the same setup from RJ Molnar here on the forum (group buy mentioned above).

I don't have the car running, so honestly can't tell you about sound and longevity -- however the quality seems to be very good for the price. Fitment was good although I'm not going to be able to use the downpipe as is since I'm doing an RE swap in my 'vert. Either way though, the exhaust looks very good, seems to fit very good, welds appear to be very good -- and for a 3" SS exhaust with mandrel bends, I don't think the price can be beat...

My recommendation: Buy it.

13b4me 06-21-06 12:25 PM

I have it as well, and it's as good of quality as the RB counterpart... And Aaron the tips aren't as big as the pics make them look... They aren't 2.5" but they fit the bumper cutouts nicely, and the mufflers also tuck under the car very well... It's definately not an "in your face" exhaust if you know what I mean... :)

13b4me 06-21-06 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by NCRX791
I wouldnt do it...I had a ssautochrome single on my n/a and it changed the color b/c the heat was so strong..and eventually it broke the bracket hangers...and they had to be rewelded on....and then they broke again. SSA is not a good company...just an opinon.

That's funny, because I had their 3" single on my modified TII for a long time with no issues whatsoever... It was very loud, but was a well built system... The duals are supposed to be a little quieter, but I never got to install them on a RUNNING vehicle, so I dunno yet... :)

piercdawg 06-21-06 01:10 PM

I have that system on my car. Im so glad I bought it. It saved me a bunch of cash. & it works perfect. Its loud a shit!! & will make you spit flames really easy. Easy to install. Exhaust is exhaust, the difference in quality between manufactures is small, & only if its titanium or carbon. But stainless steel is stainless steel. The discoloration is gonna happen to the downpipe no matter what brand you put on there, & the muffler too, it looks good & sounds good
IF YOU CAN, BUY IT. YOU WILL BE SATISFIED

RotaryEvolution 06-21-06 02:09 PM

i've had the SSAC turboback on my car for over a year with no issues.

RockLobster 06-21-06 02:36 PM

My racing beat full 3" turboback was worth every penny. I would not call racing beat overpriced at all.

Phantomhp 06-21-06 02:53 PM

I have the single outlet exhaust from motaria and love it.

It is a loud exhaust though so either learn to like being loud or modify it.

Mike

sm0keyii 06-21-06 03:15 PM

I just got my exhaust from SS Autochrome last friday lol. Get this, I ordered the single turbo back and they sent me the dual :) At first I was mad that they sent me the wrong one, but after I calmed down I checked out the website and saw the retail price. I saved $225 :rlaugh: :rlaugh: :rlaugh: I plan to install it this weekend, if I can get outta work at a decent enough time. I'll let you know how it sounds.

Madrx7racer 06-21-06 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by NCRX791
I wouldnt do it...I had a ssautochrome single on my n/a and it changed the color b/c the heat was so strong..and eventually it broke the bracket hangers...and they had to be rewelded on....and then they broke again. SSA is not a good company...just an opinon.

:withstupi
my "cat" broke at the welds and had a horrible exhaust leak. you get what you pay for.....It will be loud, sound nice but the quality is poor. If you end up wanting it still buy it from the forum member with the group buy....help HIM out if you're going to spend the $$.

Phantomhp 06-21-06 03:21 PM

I believe the SSAuto is different from the Motaria. They might copy the design though like they do other products.

Here is motarias site: http://www.motoria.co.kr/

Mike

OMGWTHFBBQ 06-21-06 03:24 PM

i wouldnt buy from them, if nothing else for the sake of dealing with them as a company. Worst customer service ever, a lot of people never get their exhaust. They put up auctions when theyre out of stock....

Madrx7racer 06-21-06 03:30 PM

I bought My 3" single from SS Autochrome on EBAY.......when it arrived it was in a MOTORIA box and the exhaust had MOTORIA on the canisters and the cat...........Motoria is the Supplier for SS autochrome.....or something like that.

7dust 06-21-06 03:33 PM

I own that exhaust. Its a good looking exhaust for the money.

The only problem I had was that one muffler ended up hanging about 1" lower than the other. Had to do some minor adjustments to the piping. A little heat with the torch and fixed!

It is a very loud system and attracts a lot of attention.

It does come with silencers but silencers are for pussies.

Phantomhp 06-21-06 03:37 PM

Yeah, if you look at their auctions they say they are motaria exhausts. SSAuto just dealers the exhausts out. I haven't had a single problem with mine and the color hasn't changed anymore than normal.

Here is a vid of mine (single outlet)

http://www.phantomhp.com/video/rx7vid.wmv

Mike

Madrx7racer 06-21-06 03:43 PM

I loved the sound but it was a bitch to drive at night or anywhere with cops...everyone could hear me driving from blocks away................I upgraded to the RB turbo-back and I will never use anything else....

jager_addict 06-21-06 03:57 PM

Can someone that owns this measure the tip diameter? It looks like it might be a bit large for my taste.

Phantomhp 06-21-06 04:03 PM

From side to side on my single outlet it is 4 inches.

Mike

jager_addict 06-21-06 04:07 PM

Is that on the single outlet one though?

Phantomhp 06-21-06 04:12 PM

yeah that is on my single but from pics the tips don't look to much different between mine and the duals.

Mike

Sideways7 06-21-06 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
All stainless exhaust will change colour due to heat. Nature of the beast. Chrome will last a little longer but will blue as well. Personaly I love the fact that my stainless mufflers have a yellow/dark tinge due to the heat.

Exactly. My thick-ass RB header changed color, as did my apex N1.

Trav 06-22-06 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by piercdawg
But stainless steel is stainless steel.

Let's not make such wide generalizations -- that's not exactly true...

Trav 06-22-06 12:31 PM

The tips are definitely large for my taste, but we'll see how it looks once I get the bumper on and everything. I'm willing to live with it for the price and apparent quality...
If someone hasn't posted size by then, I'll try to measure my duals when I get home.

boost_its_what_for_dinner 06-22-06 12:58 PM

look the exhuast (single outlet turbo back) is great and sounds good to me i have it and i have had the cat or resonater what ever it is break at the welds but not from heat or abuse, my na car was so low it scraped every speed bump and over time it wore it down but then a friend welded it up and not its perfect again. but it was pretty loud on the n/a but on my s4 t2 now its lovely sounding i dont have the downpipe on it yet due to boost creep and spikeing issues since i have no fcd yet.. but as soon as i can ill get a day time video like maybe today but do you have an na or t2

staticguitar313 06-22-06 01:34 PM

Borla Duals for life . . .

prjct87rx7 06-22-06 03:12 PM

ive had the sigle turbo exaust for over a year. and besides it being a tad on the loud side. its badass and from what i hear an almost exact replica of the cork sport 3" turbo exaust

LaRazaUnida 06-22-06 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Phantomhp
Yeah, if you look at their auctions they say they are motaria exhausts. SSAuto just dealers the exhausts out. I haven't had a single problem with mine and the color hasn't changed anymore than normal.

Here is a vid of mine (single outlet)

http://www.phantomhp.com/video/rx7vid.wmv

Mike

Thanks Mike for the vid. Looks good and with duals being quiter, seems like a good deal! But that did not sound bad at all to me.

Trav 06-22-06 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Trav
The tips are definitely large for my taste, but we'll see how it looks once I get the bumper on and everything. I'm willing to live with it for the price and apparent quality...
If someone hasn't posted size by then, I'll try to measure my duals when I get home.

Tips are definitely 4" on the duals -- just measured mine.

LaRazaUnida 06-22-06 06:22 PM

Question for those who have the full exhaust:

It states that it comes with all gaskets, does this include the turbo to dp gasket???

prjct87rx7 06-22-06 06:25 PM

i think so. but its a cheap one. you need the stock all metal gasket. mine burned up after like 2 weeks

LaRazaUnida 06-22-06 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by prjct87rx7
i think so. but its a cheap one. you need the stock all metal gasket. mine burned up after like 2 weeks

so it would probably be best to buy the 3inch turbo to dp gasket and four(or how many?) 3in assorted gaskets over at racing beat?

sm0keyii 06-25-06 09:34 PM

Got the exhaust installed yesterday. Man does it ever get loud after 2800rpms lol. Other than that I love. I'm gonna try the silencers out just to see if it helps any at all. :)

LaRazaUnida 06-25-06 10:49 PM

Post pics and sound clip!

Trav 06-25-06 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by LaRazaUnida
Question for those who have the full exhaust:

It states that it comes with all gaskets, does this include the turbo to dp gasket???

Actually I don't think it does come w/ the turbo to DP gasket. Mine didn't anyway -- unless it's stuck in some plastic bag somewhere that I missed...

LaRazaUnida 06-25-06 11:21 PM

Thanks alot Trav. I am ordering a bunch of misc gaskets next week, so I was wondering if I would need it or not :)

Phantomhp 06-26-06 12:30 AM

No prob on posting the vid. Always good to hear before you buy.

Mine came with all gaskets except the Turbo/DP Gasket. I used the ones that came with it and all is good so far.

Mike

boost_its_what_for_dinner 06-27-06 10:55 AM

mine gets louder at 2800 too? but i thought it had something to do with the motor and throttle bodies or ports or something but i know you can set your watch by it,, it happens exactly thesame time all the time

doridori-rx7 06-27-06 11:44 AM

Re: original post..

chinese made crap.. made up name that dosen't really exsist as a 'company' guarenteed that they hangers will rip off on the the body of the exhaust just beyond the welds.. .. i've had 3 customers who've used the same Chinese exhausts and they've all failed in under a year, all the exast same way.

Caveat Emptor, they won't warrenty it. Just like thier turbos and just like their headers 1000's of suckers a year these guys take. Ebay won't do anything as these amoral A-holes at SSautocrome make them ( ebay) too much money..

pay for a real exhaust, get a real warrenty and support a company that is involved with development in and for rx7's...

Brody8877 06-27-06 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by doridori-rx7
chinese made crap.. made up name that dosen't really exsist as a 'company' guarenteed that they hangers will rip off on the the body of the exhaust just beyond the welds.. .. i've had 3 customers who've used the same Chinese exhausts and they've all failed in under a year, all the exast same way.

Caveat Emptor, they won't warrenty it. Just like thier turbos and just like their headers 1000's of suckers a year these guys take. Ebay won't do anything as these amoral A-holes at SSautocrome make them ( ebay) too much money..

pay for a real exhaust, get a real warrenty and support a company that is involved with development in and for rx7's...

is korean made dude. The company does exist, it is not made by SS Auto Chrome, SS auto chrome has the license to sell it. N YES IT IS NOT SOME FAKE SHIT. DAMN IT EVERY DO SOME Research. Some people like it, some people dont like because of its loudness, but it is alot quieter than the cs. I perfer to go dual with this system. check out the group buy area for the sound clip, i think there is still a groub buy for this product. This exhaust is great alternative for RB full turbo exhaust. RB FTW, but my second choice would be this exhaust.

also read my post about my exhaust decision

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...4&page=1&pp=15

doridori-rx7 06-27-06 11:54 AM

.. crap.. pure and simple.. SS autocrome does not sell anything worth buying, in any catagory I never did say that SSAC 'made ' anything, they BUY everything from some other scum bag who imports them by the container load and sells them to companies like Megan, OBX and SSAC. .. if this is your 2nd choice for an exhaust then you've got some seriously low expectations and quality levels.. not like you don'thave 50 or so japanese systems that will eat this low end garbage for a mid day, high carbon content snack..


Defending the lowest quality POS on the market is sad..

13b4me 06-27-06 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by doridori-rx7
.. crap.. pure and simple.. SS autocrome does not sell anything worth buying, in any catagory I never did say that SSAC 'made ' anything, they BUY everything from some other scum bag who imports them by the container load and sells them to companies like Megan, OBX and SSAC. .. if this is your 2nd choice for an exhaust then you've got some seriously low expectations and quality levels.. not like you don'thave 50 or so japanese systems that will eat this low end garbage for a mid day, high carbon content snack..


Defending the lowest quality POS on the market is sad..

This is really funny, because despite the somewhat negative reviews of their other products, these exhausts are excellent quality... Take it from someone who uses only the best parts on their car, and has done loads of "market research" on the subject... I've had about every aftermarket exhaust for an FC in my possession at some point in time, and this is on par with all of them quality wise... I bet you're one of those people that buys shit off ebay just because it's "r3@l JDM Y0"... Gimme a fuckin break man... It gets annoying when people come in here preaching shit based on hearsay and hypothesis... :rolleyes:

Brody8877 06-27-06 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by 13b4me
This is really funny, because despite the somewhat negative reviews of their other products, these exhausts are excellent quality... Take it from someone who uses only the best parts on their car, and has done loads of "market research" on the subject... I've had about every aftermarket exhaust for an FC in my possession at some point in time, and this is on par with all of them quality wise... I bet you're one of those people that buys shit off ebay just because it's "r3@l JDM Y0"... Gimme a fuckin break man... It gets annoying when people come in here preaching shit based on hearsay and hypothesis... :rolleyes:

:werd:


.. crap.. pure and simple.. SS autocrome does not sell anything worth buying, in any catagory I never did say that SSAC 'made ' anything, they BUY everything from some other scum bag who imports them by the container load and sells them to companies like Megan, OBX and SSAC. .. if this is your 2nd choice for an exhaust then you've got some seriously low expectations and quality levels.. not like you don'thave 50 or so japanese systems that will eat this low end garbage for a mid day, high carbon content snack..
y do people keep repeating themselve! go research!!! i keep on restating the review of the exhaust, damn it people learn to pay attention and read and maybe do some research. Most Japanese made exhaust are catback not a full exhaust system unless is the re-amemiya product. DO SOME RESEARCH YO!

doridori-rx7 06-27-06 03:50 PM

bet your one of those people who sees anythign from Japan as ' JDM tyte yo" and says that slogan ~ 10 time a day to prove how anti japanese you are .. also I don't NEED to buy most of my parts as I can make them.. my experience comes from customers who bring me in this shit to fix.. which I won't.. so up yours bubbha..


Originally Posted by 13b4me
This is really funny, because despite the somewhat negative reviews of their other products, these exhausts are excellent quality... Take it from someone who uses only the best parts on their car, and has done loads of "market research" on the subject... I've had about every aftermarket exhaust for an FC in my possession at some point in time, and this is on par with all of them quality wise... I bet you're one of those people that buys shit off ebay just because it's "r3@l JDM Y0"... Gimme a fuckin break man... It gets annoying when people come in here preaching shit based on hearsay and hypothesis... :rolleyes:



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