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nd_track_driver94 12-11-09 10:28 PM

speakers
 
alright i was wondering what everything thinks is the best sounding car system that wont break the bank. im putting the speakers in my 300zx and they are 4x6 in the front and 6.5 in the rear. i know that boston acoustic is the best but they are also way to much and out of my price range. only have about 200$

jjwalker 12-11-09 10:35 PM

Do you have an amplifier? There is absolutely no reason to get premium speakers if you do not have the power to move them.

If you are just running them off of the deck, get some with ~30 watts rms rating. Yes, that is a bit above the decks rms output, but you won't find any that will match the normal 22 watt rms output of the deck.

nd_track_driver94 12-11-09 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 9674002)
Do you have an amplifier? There is absolutely no reason to get premium speakers if you do not have the power to move them.

If you are just running them off of the deck, get some with ~30 watts rms rating. Yes, that is a bit above the decks rms output, but you won't find any that will match the normal 22 watt rms output of the deck.

the oem speakers(bose)have amplifiers but i was told i cant use them. ill probably end up using an amp if i have to. id like a really nice bass sounding system

jjwalker 12-11-09 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by nd_track_driver94 (Post 9674006)
the oem speakers(bose)have amplifiers but i was told i cant use them. ill probably end up using an amp if i have to. id like a really nice bass sounding system

You can use the bose amplifiers in there, but the impedance will be mismatched. If memory serves me correctly, the bose system in your Z has strange impedance on the tweeters and door woofers.

You CAN use 4 ohm speakers and it will be okay if you are on a budget, it just lowers the amount of power output by the bose amp, but on the flip side, rewiring them to a decent amplifier would be best. Choose whatever is in your budget.

Since the impedance will be mismatched if you go with 4 Ohm speakers, you need to get some low power rated speakers. 30 watt RMS or as close as possible. It'll sound fine.

Judging by your post though, you may be better served by an amp in the hatch. It only takes a 10" sub in the hatch of your car you hurt your ears, so you could do that. Also, you could get an amp for the door speakers. Since you have a tweeter and door woofer, you'd need a set of component speakers to make that work well.

Too add, adding a 2 channel amp would only do your door speakers. If you wnet with a 2 channel, you'd need to wire your rear speakers to the deck, as you'd disable your bose system. It gets complicated when a vehicle comes with a premium sound system.

jjwalker 12-11-09 10:56 PM

Hey man, just to add, you can call me at work if you would like, and I can give you the low down over the phone. I Can't talk for a lengthy period, but it would be better than trying to do it on the forum.

I work at Best Buy, and am an autotech.

972-722-1486

Ask for Cameron in the install bay and they'll tranfer you to me. I'll be there at 1pm CST
tommorow.

nd_track_driver94 12-11-09 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 9674034)
You can use the bose amplifiers in there, but the impedance will be mismatched. If memory serves me correctly, the bose system in your Z has strange impedance on the tweeters and door woofers.

You CAN use 4 ohm speakers and it will be okay if you are on a budget, it just lowers the amount of power output by the bose amp, but on the flip side, rewiring them to a decent amplifier would be best. Choose whatever is in your budget.

Since the impedance will be mismatched if you go with 4 Ohm speakers, you need to get some low power rated speakers. 30 watt RMS or as close as possible. It'll sound fine.

Judging by your post though, you may be better served by an amp in the hatch. It only takes a 10" sub in the hatch of your car you hurt your ears, so you could do that. Also, you could get an amp for the door speakers. Since you have a tweeter and door woofer, you'd need a set of component speakers to make that work well.

Too add, adding a 2 channel amp would only do your door speakers. If you wnet with a 2 channel, you'd need to wire your rear speakers to the deck, as you'd disable your bose system. It gets complicated when a vehicle comes with a premium sound system.

wow bro your really good at this. can you mabye set me up with a setup. that you would reccomend. i mean i reallly would like it if someone could just give me a write up of exactly everything i need so i can just go and buy it

nd_track_driver94 12-11-09 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 9674041)
Hey man, just to add, you can call me at work if you would like, and I can give you the low down over the phone. I Can't talk for a lengthy period, but it would be better than trying to do it on the forum.

I work at Best Buy, and am an autotech.

972-722-1486

Ask for Cameron in the install bay and they'll tranfer you to me. I'll be there at 1pm CST
tommorow.

lol im in sac so our time zones are diff, im surpried you knew about the z tho, impressed very impressed. most help ive had for a long time. but anyways, if you could just set me up with a great setup that would be perfect ill just go and buy it

AUGieDogie 12-12-09 03:53 AM

I have BAs in all of my car, I love them and have used them for many many years. That being said MB quarts are the best I have ever heard!. But bang for the buck I go BA every time.
I have
Pro 4.2s
Pro 6.2s
Pro 6.4a
Pro 6.5s
I've used a BA sub but wasn't as happy with it. No i run solobarics

AUGieDogie 12-12-09 03:54 AM

OH and polk is crap now, I had a really nice set up of polks all around back in the day, but nowdays they are crapolla

cmanns 12-12-09 04:14 AM

boston acoustic obviously the best , uhm no gtfo with your faggotry

infinity: great speakers, great highs mids and hitting bass from tiny 4" speakers, sounded EXCELLENT in my FB

Alpines: They were the "back" of my FB, they needed alil moar juice but they hit pretty hard, mids were decent, highs were great.

People preferred my old fb's audio over other friends of ours with crazy sub systems n such, I had no woofer just pure speakers, and yes you could hear my car from far away - you'd hear clear perfect audio :]

Now pioneer 2 way's seem pretty nice too, I also like Polk audio.

tweaked 12-12-09 05:08 AM

Bostons are no longer the best. They were bought out and the quality has suffered. Infinity Kappa are among the best out there. DEI makes a good set. JBLs are bad ass too.

My current favorite subs are the Infinity Kappa series. I also love the Orion XTR, and the high end model Kicker Solos (I can't remember the series number)

I strongly suggest you cut out the fronts to fit at least a 5.25. 6 or 6.5 are better. First of all, an oval speaker cone will distort unevenly because of the shape. Also, the bigger the woofer, the better the midbass. I have not heard a 4x6 that sounded as good as a 4" or bigger at moderate to high levels.

I also suggest separates as opposed to coaxials or triaxials. you will have a separate two way crossover that will cut the highs out of the woofer, and hopefully have a 12dB crossover slope. you also have more options to aim the tweeter for optimal placement.

To save space, money, and complexity, I suggest you get a head unit that has a built in crossover. Make sure you can run the high pass through the deck. that way you only have to buy a sub amp and can cut the bass from your separates without having multiple amps.

As with most things, you get what you pay for. But a little shopping around, and taking the time to install it correctly will pay dividends.

My 7 has one 8" sub, 2 6.5 Kappas, rolling off naturally in the rear, then a set of 5.25" Kappa separates in front. I don't have a head unit anymore, I just use my phone for everything. but I have two amps, one has a built in cross over with highpass out put. the whole system, including wire, weighs in at 18 pounds. It won't win any SPL competitions, but it sounds great and more than loud enough to over come my loud exhaust on the highway.

jjwalker 12-12-09 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by nd_track_driver94 (Post 9674046)
lol im in sac so our time zones are diff, im surpried you knew about the z tho, impressed very impressed. most help ive had for a long time. but anyways, if you could just set me up with a great setup that would be perfect ill just go and buy it


Thanks, I work on cars all day long everyday so I tend to remember them.

Go ahead and give me a call today and I'll help you out. I'll have all the information I need available at work, instead of trying to do it all by memory.

nd_track_driver94 12-12-09 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 9674623)
Thanks, I work on cars all day long everyday so I tend to remember them.

Go ahead and give me a call today and I'll help you out. I'll have all the information I need available at work, instead of trying to do it all by memory.

alright what time. cuz as of right now its 1129 here in
add on: i run a jensen phase flip out dash deck think its 150watts not sure

nd_track_driver94 12-27-09 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 9674623)
Thanks, I work on cars all day long everyday so I tend to remember them.

Go ahead and give me a call today and I'll help you out. I'll have all the information I need available at work, instead of trying to do it all by memory.

ay bro i called your work no answer so is there anymore help you can give me

jjwalker 12-27-09 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by nd_track_driver94 (Post 9701867)
ay bro i called your work no answer so is there anymore help you can give me

Depends on what you want to do. Are you wanting to keep the Bose amplifiers? Do you want to just power some new speakers from the deck? Or, are you wanting to get a 4 channel amp to power your new speakers?

I need to know what and how you are going to power them to give you any advice. I can tell you right now, running the bose system amplifiers on aftermarket speakers is not a good idea. The Bose system uses 1 and 2 ohm speakers, and obviously you aren't going to find any 1 or 2 ohm speakers easily.

The Best solution is to run a 4 channel amp and rewire all the speakers, with some component speakers up front.

If you are on a budget, rewire the system directly to a new aftermarket deck, with component speakers up front.

Sorry for not answering man, I was slammed at work today and by myself. Lots of people get decks for christmas and need them installed, so this is our busiest time.

ChaosXperiment 09-28-10 08:27 AM

you forgot pioneer! lol

LunchboxCritter 09-28-10 08:56 AM

Your stereo will only sound as good as the weakest component in your system. If you're rocking a Jensen headunit you're going to get Jensen sound out of your system.

That being said, component systems (seperate mid, tweeter) sound better than coaxil speakers. I have used several brands of speakers (kicker, infinity, boston, pioneer, blaupunkt) and I have found that most every brand has lower end speakers, and higher end speakers.

IE: Pioneer Elite Component system is going to sound better than Boston Acoustic Coaxil speakers.

20Bforme 09-28-10 09:09 AM

ive always been very fond of infinity speakers. i shouldve never sold my kappas.

Alex_n/a 09-28-10 02:10 PM


boston acoustic obviously the best
when i heard this i was like :awesome: cause i have boston speakers.


Originally Posted by cmanns (Post 9674346)
boston acoustic obviously the best , uhm no gtfo with your faggotry.

and then i heard this and was like :(

and i have bostons in the struts and 2 6x9 lighting bolts in individual boxes stored in the spare wheel well. decent high and lows specially since i got nothing in the doors or dash. my .02 cents

durtled 09-28-10 07:08 PM

name brand shit isn't the way to go. honestly i would get some 2nd hand speakers off craigslist they will more than enough unless ur gonna amp them it won't matter they will be clear

wmele25 09-28-10 07:26 PM

Boston is not the best. there are way better speakers out there. there are speakers that you have never heard of. check out focal. their entry level stuff is not that expensive and they sound way better then infinity or infinity kappa stuff. the infinity have a really harsh tweeter where as any of the focal's, especially if you are going to go with components, sound real true to life with really good mid bass response and really clean crisp, but not overbearing highs. the guy who said your system is only as good as your weakest link is absolutely right but you can do your system in stages. start with a good head unit with high voltage rca outputs. higher end pioneer and kenwood stuff is really good. any mid to high end alpine is good. get a decent set of component speakers and then get a good clean amp to to power your speakers. consider doing a sub down the road as well to fill in the low end bass. even the 1200 dollar focal's i have in my car can not put out the bass that subs are designed to do.

LunchboxCritter 09-28-10 08:39 PM

I'm running 4-6.5" Polk Audio coaxial speakers ($30.00/pair), and 2-3.5" Rockford Fosgate's ($30 +/-) off a Pioneer Elite Series Head unit (7v preouts). I'm powering them with an old school Soundstream lil wonder 5 channel amp. They keep up with JL18w3 subwoofer (yes 18"), powered by a JL 1000/1 slash series amplifier.

+1 for getting a good quality head unit + good quality amplifier (and wiring) + fairly cheap speakers = best sound for the money.

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durtled 09-28-10 08:47 PM

its all about how far u wanna take it. my 7 0 audio no deck no speakers. going for lightness. my Lincoln 150lb box in the trunk. not talked about much but soundstream makes some amazing stuff. ive had the same soundstream amp and xover for quite some time now. 100% pleased with them. would have some soundstream speakers but people keep giving my component sets so no need to buy. and a psi sub. but if ur not gonna run an amp. no need to spend mad dough on speakers. just 1 thing. DONT GET SONY. they have built in distortion.

loudazzrx7 09-28-10 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by wmele25 (Post 10241181)
Boston is not the best. there are way better speakers out there. there are speakers that you have never heard of. check out focal. their entry level stuff is not that expensive and they sound way better then infinity or infinity kappa stuff. the infinity have a really harsh tweeter where as any of the focal's, especially if you are going to go with components, sound real true to life with really good mid bass response and really clean crisp, but not overbearing highs. the guy who said your system is only as good as your weakest link is absolutely right but you can do your system in stages. start with a good head unit with high voltage rca outputs. higher end pioneer and kenwood stuff is really good. any mid to high end alpine is good. get a decent set of component speakers and then get a good clean amp to to power your speakers. consider doing a sub down the road as well to fill in the low end bass. even the 1200 dollar focal's i have in my car can not put out the bass that subs are designed to do.

I agree focals mids and Highs are the best speakers around I have a set of there k2 in my 10th anny and have yet to hear anything with there clarity.Just remember you pay for what you get.

Beansy 09-28-10 09:08 PM

Focal entry level stuff is decently priced when you compare it to their high end stuff lol. 6k for components is kinda pricey


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