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beamer242 12-07-04 02:12 AM

personally i think the skyline is the sexiest car i have ever seen. ive liked them for a bit now and i fell in love when i saw an r33 infront of my work one day. thank god for camera phones....lol.....IMO the skyline would be alot of fun to do stuff to and is well worth the time and money

eriksseven 12-07-04 05:12 AM

These cars seem completely different to me...

If you want rarity, JDM steez and props from car people, the Skyline would be the way to go...

But if you fun, affordability and the sexiness of a well done Rex, get the 2nd gen..

The lines of the Skyline are WAY different than the FC, which do you like better? Boxiness, or the sleek, bullet shaped glory of an 80's sports car?

It would be a hassle to import a car AND if you're spending all that money, you'd probably want to check it out in person before buying it (I know I would).

Both would make great cars.. The Skyline has more power potential than the FC (13bt)...

You could drive the Skyline in the winter.

Parts would be easier to come by for the Rx7...

Do you want to keep the driftablility of the FC?

lol, it's really up to you... Actually, why don't you get both?

VII 12-08-04 12:33 AM

eriksseven,

That white seven of yours is really crisp, I like it alot!!!!! Is it the same one as the primer grey you had?

eriksseven 12-08-04 02:26 AM

nah, I've got the white TII and the primered N/A both sitting in my garage (both dead, lol).
The TII should be back on the streets later this week with a fresh rebuild and street port.

The N/A, after a slow decline of the coolant seals, blew an apex seal one day while doing some rainy weather drifts.. So, It probably won't be back up until January or so.

Valkyrie 12-08-04 02:41 AM

R34 = sexy.

R32 GT-R = sexy.

Non-GT-R R32s = lame. far less attractive (especially the four-doors) I see them everywhere. Literally. Like one every 30 seconds.

R33 = Don't like the front end.

R34 GT25 Turbo = ...Not a GT-R, but it's still sexy. FR, so I doubt it has quite the bad balance that plaguages the GT-R (it's a heavy-ass car, which is made worse by the fact that it has a terrible front-heavy balance), and probably has the same power potential. Weighs less I think...

I'd take an 99-spec FD over a GT-R R34 V-Spec II (well, if it was FREE, I'd take the GT-R, sell it to get the FD and then lots of goodies), but that's just out of personal preference... the GT-R is faster, and has more speed potential, but the FD would be better on technical courses IMO.

Also, anyone who argues that the AWD on the Skyline causes it to understeer is mistaken. The GT-R's front wheels aren't active during turns, so that cuts out the understeer (besides that caused by the weight balance), and the computer also prevents spins by giving the front tires power when the rears lose grip (understeer to correct oversteer).

ProjectRESuperG 12-08-04 03:27 PM

I guess the choice depends on what you are looking for out of both cars.

Cool factor? R32, hands down. We are talking about the GTR though right? This goes for stock to stock, or modified to modified. GTR's are just damn rare, while FCs are pretty much common, at least here in the U.S.

Performance? I'd say the R32 have an edge there. It is just a car that is clearly far ahead of anything made during that time, and I will even go so far as to say that it is even more advanced than most cars produced today (performance stuff, not other little gizmos). You have arguably one of the most durable engine that Japan has ever produced, and much like the engine from the MKIV Supra, it can be modified to make ridiculous amounts of power with stock internals. Also, with simple bolt-ons, you can make over 400hp crank easily, and realibly.

The only downside that I see is that GTR parts, stock or aftermarket, are probably really hard to come by. Also, finding a mechanic familiar with GTRs are even harder. So unless you are mechanically solid, I'd say you need to ask around for people who have experience with GTRs before diving headlong into investing $30000 on a late 80s early 90s car.

vicious525E 12-08-04 03:48 PM

hmm, r32's are better for making power, 20b FC's are too front heavy, dont look for more then 500 rwhp if you want your motor to last too long at all with a 13bt, 13b-re's are a good bit better, 13b-REW's really dont end up being worth the money.
iv never ridden in a r32, and the closest thing iv ever been in would have to be a 3000gt vr4, which was nice, pulled good and overall impressed me, until to the first turn.
so, if you want something you can build power out of, get the r32, if you want something you can drive keep the FC :)

OneLastTryLTJ 12-08-04 03:56 PM

IMO I say that this is the cleanest FC I have EVER seen. You should mod your FC to make it look like this:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...f/ef8b2555.bmp

gerbraldy 12-08-04 03:56 PM

Skylines are sweet, 12k will get you a nice r32 gts-t shipped and legalized to america. Rx7's are already here so I'd just stick with good old rotary power. You, being in canada can get a r32 for cheap. I would just mod the rx7, get it over 400hp:D

13bturbo2 12-08-04 04:59 PM

i say its a good switch overall....i mean if you want to try something different i say its cool...just make sure that when you sell your car you sell it to one of us :p

Black91n/a 12-08-04 05:23 PM

Keep in mind taht you'll have to pay out your ass for almost all the parts for the Skyline as nearly 100% will have to be imported. Even getting something as simple spark plugs could be difficult, unless you happen to know of another vehicle they're used on that is available in north america. Everything will be difficult as no one will have any knowledge of the car in your area so you'll have to learn it all by yourself (with help from the web). Shops will likely be scared away from working on it as they'll not have any manuals for it, and no experiance with that model. Don't expect Nissan to help either, since it's not an official import. You may be able to get NISMO parts from the dealers though.

not_rotating 12-08-04 08:23 PM

man, sounds like america sucks for skylines. rx7's r more expensive here in nz than skylines. you can pick up a nice skyline for around 4 - 5 grand here. Where as a decent rx7 will set you back about 6 - 7 grand.

dennis91turbo 12-08-04 08:38 PM

dont sell your car. goto a skyline forum for all that. at least to get real facts.
other that the obvious. but hey good luck on your engine.

gildardo 12-08-04 09:27 PM

I would worry about parts abailability. I like both, althow I have only driven FCs.


Gil

FC_mania 12-08-04 09:44 PM

well FC attracts babes anytime compared to a boxy R32.... of course a GTR Vspec is a different case

eViLRotor 12-08-04 11:01 PM

This guy must be drinking a lot of Metamucil cause he changes his mind pretty regular...

...I say sell the car to someone that really wants a TII, be done with it and buy the Skyline.

But I doubt very much that modding and maintaining that car is going to be any easier than an FC. If you can't do the one, you won't be able to do the other.

evileagle 12-09-04 05:45 AM

Ugh... Don't even get me started on Skylines...

We are working on an R32 right now, don't get me wrong, it's a nice car, but a bitch to work on. Engine parts aren't too bad, they share a lot of the little ones with the 300ZX TT. Body panels? Forget about it.

The first one we had we ended up transplanting the engine into a 240SX shell we were going to put an SR20 into, but that's all a story for another day.

Seriously, having driven both cars, the FC is where it's at. It just feels better while you drive it, it doesn't feel as big and bulky, the R32 is by no means a large car but at the same time it feels like driving a brick. The RB series of engines are very fun and reliable though, so in the event you decide to go with an R32 I can't say it would neccessarily be a <i>bad</i> choice.

MY ROTA 12-09-04 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by DyNaMiTe KiD
shit i forgot to add some things.. i just got my engine rebuilt, and i dunno its still burnin oil i spent 5k cdn for it and im getting really dam frustrated with it.... i am willling to take the car to the states to take it to a good engine rebuilding/tuning shop... i have a power fc, which doesnt matter if they can tune for a fd they can tune for a fc.. closest places in america are to me are grand forks, fargo, and if i drive about 14 hours minneapolis, detroit and chicago become options.. this is when i really need hhelp from the board, if i can take it to a trustable knowledgable place and i wont have nomore enigine troubles i'll keep it, can you guys help me out on that?? i refuse to take it anywhere in Canada...

Thanks ppl..


was it A soec that rebuilt your motor by any chance. theres a guy in my area the does a lot of rotarys this guys know his shit there called J&R turbo.but it sounds like theres something wrong with your metering pump

Whizbang 12-09-04 08:33 AM

a few people in europe have said the skyline is over rated.

mr0pistons 12-09-04 04:29 PM

R32 GTR's are the best...same engine as the R33 and 34 GTR's and its lighter...not to mention it just looks better.

ikekrull 12-10-04 02:58 PM

Skylines and RX-7s....
 
Both banned from competing at Bathurst (major australian motor race) for being too fast...

The skylines consistently annihilated the V8 Ford Sierra Cosworths, Holden Commodores and Ford Falcon race-cars around Bathurst, and the FD RX-7 absolutely beat the pants of the Porsches from '92 to '95.

The RX-7s were set to go up against the V8s in the 'main event' of Bathurst but the Bathurst promoters refused to allow peripheral-porting (while allowing any kind of extreme valve and head mods on the V8 side), and then outright banned them.

The Skylines were introduced and despite a number of drivetrain issues consistently whipped the competition, so they just changed the rules to ban them.

Here in Australia/NZ, we have a lot of skylines on the road (and in NZ, it is said that we have more 7s per capita than anywhere else in the world -though theres probably 50 skylines for every 7).

Skyline GT-Rs are definitely a car to be reckoned with, and are realistically in a higher performance bracket than anything but a full-on race-prepped FD - where the lighter weight and better handling of the FD will give it the edge on a track with corners, despite the GT-Rs better power.

However, you could buy a whole FD for what it will cost to fix a major engine problem in a GT-R, and while they are f**king fast, theyre big, ugly and simply lack the 'rare beauty' of the RX-7.

I've ridden in a few Skylines (though never a GT-R) and would have to say theyre comfortable, fast cars. Theres no way i'd trade in my RX-7 for one though - i could buy 2 FDs for the price of a decent GT-R, though i might buy a low-spec one for the girlfriend to drive.

cwsttu 12-10-04 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by 13b_drifter
FTR, all my tuning experience of both cars were on GT3 ;)

you made me spit out my food lauging so hard, made my day better

dennis blackstone 01-06-05 02:55 PM

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gerbraldy 01-06-05 03:05 PM

go for a gts-t, put 400hp down to the rear wheels, get yourself a nice drift machine

13b_drifter 01-06-05 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by cwsttu
you made me spit out my food lauging so hard, made my day better

Glad to be of service :bigthumb:


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