Should I keep my S5 TII or get an Integra Type-R???
 

I currently own a 1990 TurboII and am considering an Integra Type-R as a replacement vehicle.

Here are my reasons why:
1) ITR is more practical (4 seats, fwd for winter, lower maintenance, better gas mileage, won't need to rebuild engine anytime soon)
2) More readily available support for the ITR (yes I know there are a lot of RX-7 owners/enthusiasts out there, but getting help over the net is difficult & getting it locally is impossible)

These are the 2 reasons that make me consider becoming a Honda owner.

I now ask you rotorheads to tell me why I should keep my S5 TII over an ITR.

I have a honda and a TII, If you really loved the rx7 you wouldent even be asking yourself this question. Ok you want my opinion keep it and get a daily driver. A Type R isint nearly as great a car as an Rx7 IMHO.

I loved my integra!!!!!!!!!!!! it never had a single problem!!! I could work on it to improve it not just bring it back to normal running conditions! keep both!! turbo for those need for speed days and integra quality and longevity. only problem is you could work on it for two years and then someone could come along with a tow truck and tow it to a strip shop and leave you with a frame... and four spares!!! not even a clock in the dash left. in that respect stay with the turbo!!! much less likely to be stolen!!!

Ohm well, I think the RX-7 is much better, and I hate integra's, but that is my oppinion.

Im sure he may love his RX-7 but what hes saying is that he needs something more practical I think. Like you said, theres certain advantages and disadvatanges to owning each. Either way, the ITR is a great car and a lot of fun on the track.

tegs suck ass. lol I have no idea bout the TYPE-R but the regular ones realy bite it.

well I'm pretty sure no one will agree with me!! haha I don't care though. like you said it's my opinion. it's just my experience. the ratio's are great for driving, (quick shifts and accurate) they don't break down too often, good gas mileage, (even better with port and polish, plus you get more horses!) they R great cars! just the Rx7 is more unique, especially now days! I'm actually glad I've got my rx instead of my integra now, cause it's more original. five years ago the integra was somewhat original, although everyone had coffee cans for exhausts instead of real ones. Mine was real!!! it sounded good too!! ha

right on!!!


I really don't see the advantage to an integra, and are you going to have a true Type R inported, or are you just going to be a ricer retard and put a skyline GTR badge and say it's "damn fast yo"

like the guy said. If you really loved your Rx-7 you wouldnt be asking your self that question. I've raced a couple of ITR's with my N/A with simple bolt-ons. and i've never had a problem opening a can of WHOOP ass.

Keep the Rx-7 as a daily driver and get the teggy if you really want it.

Otherwise shoot your self in the foot for saying you want to 'trade' your T2 for an ITR...

-Markus

from a stop the Rx will get the jump on an integra! but from a roll the integra will win the ratio's are much better in the integra! the rx's fourth gear is about the same as the fifth in the integra. ha you people just need to admit there's good in both cars. drive both. (the integra needs 225 50 15's to handle better the car is way undertired) you can't tell me the gear box is anywhere close to the smoothness of an integra's!

Type R..excellent engine performance and handling, will respond to bolts ons nicely and theres a billion different parts manufacteurs as well as the prices will be alot cheaper. Its kinda of nice to sometimes just have to change oil...

finally a sense of reason!!

They make ACURA Integra Type-R's in America, the Japanese don't have Acura's, Acura is American. In Japan its a Honda Inegra Type-R.

i had a gsr until i just got my turbo II this weekend.. the turbo II blows my integra away..with stock suspension is out handle but integra that had tanabe springs tokico shocks and front and rear strut bars. integra are no doubt great cars...with type r's being faster then turbo II's stock..but for easy hp turbo II's respond way better to bolt ons. if u need a reliable car with 4 seats though the type r is your pick..its a very fun car to drive..but i kno youll miss the turbo..wait...get a type r and turbo it..there you go

I was a Honda whore before I got my 7..and still am. I made list's of all I was going to need to do my ls/vtec...had a list of everything it was gonna take to run reliable, better rod bolts, B16 slugs...I like Honda's...FAST ONES...not billy bob with his 1.6liter SOHC, (which he thinks means sock) DX, with his 5" muffler and 1" piping, and NOS stickers. :p:

I learned alot about Honda engines and have learned alot about the rotary as well as with my small block chev..I like having a spread range of knowledge about things on diff. cars...that way when I'm in my late 20's I'll decide which one is the best for me and build a 500whp moster....hehe

hahahaha! don't they say the same things about putting a turbo hood on a n/a car? don't be an ass! open your mind to something other than what YOU think is COOL!

Quote "I really don't see the advantage to an integra, and are you going to have a true Type R inported, or are you just going to be a ricer retard and put a skyline GTR badge and say it's "damn fast yo"

Actually if i could trade my accord in for an ITR than that would be really awsome, but theres simply no way in hell id get rid of my TII.
A few reasons not to get rid of a series 5 TII.
1. There very rare, how many TII s5's are there on the road?
2. The Rx7 is a more beautiful car.
3. The Rx7 is a true sports car.
4. The Rx7 is rear wheel drive.
5. The Rx7 is going to be faster easier than the Type R.
6. The Rx7 has unique handeling (I dident necissarly say better)
7. Its an Rx7.
I dunno these are just things off the top of my head and some are just opinions. I feel that comparing a Type R to an Rx7 isisnt really fair because i feel that the Rx7 is a true sports car. Again the ideal situation is to have both, thats what i would try for. Its best of both worlds.

I was a Honda whore before I got my 7..and still am. I made list's of all I was going to need to do my ls/vtec...had a list of everything it was gonna take to run reliable, better rod bolts, B16 slugs...I like Honda's...FAST ONES...not billy bob with his 1.6liter SOHC, (which he thinks means sock) DX, with his 5" muffler and 1" piping, and NOS stickers.

I hear ya!! I was a week away from my supercharger the day it got stolen. DOH!! had all sorts of things done to it!! every bolt on, I could find... but shit happens... and that day it happened to me!! haha. you'd like my buddies car. he's got a 2000 accord, with a 75 shot of nos, full body kit, no funky wings or anything, he's been ordering parts for his car as soon as it comes out! now he's got a cl type s block that's gonna have a supercharger, bolted onto his accord head. (next monday!!). but it will lose the nos... if you know anyone with a v6 accord... tell them to put in the type s camshafts!! nice gain up top.

shit tahts my 666 post bad bad!! must post again 667 667!!

Id stick with the TII. If I want something reliable, Id invest in a daily driver like an old Toyota or something. ITRs are cool, and for all of the people who think that they are just like any other integra, you are wrong. But Id much rather have an S5 TII.


PS- Sneakyasian- Calm down please, jeez. Every sentence doesnt have to end with one of these -->!!!!

but I like them!! their like vertical slanted eyes! like me! haha sorry I'm not pissed, just in a habit of hitting them. doh! hahahahahaha

I've almost toyed with this idea as well...but for a decent low mileage TypeR I would think the price would not dip below $20,000...money that I don't have...

Last fall I finally got a ride in a I-H-E TypeR. Impressive car...handling was awesome for FWD. But, as far as speed goes, my T2 pulled on it with ease... :D

Re: Should I keep my S5 TII or get an Integra Type-R???
 

I'm a full out rotor head & I say................SELL IT!!!!!!
TO ME:) I think you should get the honda/POS......I love haveing advantages over ALL my competition!!!!!!!

:ar: TYPE-R:piss:

sorry I just miss my integra... like I said I only worked on it to make it better... unlike my rx where I've got to work to make it run normal...

hey bdoty311 R the .... better? kidding

I wouldn't get a ITR.....honda's are slow unless you spend like $10k on them lol......I have a s4 TII with 190,000 miles on the orginal engine, turbo etc and I just have what's listed in my sig and I got 14 flat at 100mph.....I spent less than $500.00 on engine mods only and that's awesome in my book.

Just my 2 cents though.....if you want an ITR, then go for it....it's up to you :)

If you were thinking about a FWD car I would get a Mazda MP3 or the new Mazdaspeed turbo.

Mike

The integra is about as cool as a V6 mustang. Only slower.

Can you people please refrain from ignorant comments such as this one from now on?

:rlaugh:

and 14.8 doesnt fit under my "slow" category quaid..

But the price of the car is kinda spendy for a 14.8..

damn I didn't think so many people would reply in such a short period of time. To answer your questions/etc:

1) For those of you who don't know what an Integra Type-R is; before the Mazdaspeed came out, the ITR (Integra Type-R) was the best handling FF car.

2) An Integra GS-R or any other integra has no comparison against an ITR

3) I DO love my TII but the few differences that I listed are important to me.

4) ITR's were made/shipped to North America and just because I am considering a Honda does not make me a ricer.

5) I could not care less about how hard a TII pulls on an ITR or how LITTLE torque an ITR has. The fun begins when you approach the first turn :)
Personally, I think people who make RX-7's 1/4 mile cars are wasting the car...same with ITRs.

Also, getting a winter beater (because Canada is cold) is a pain. Having a year round driveable car is more practical/easier (along with the 4 seats).


Thanks to everyone for their replies, I will most likely keep the TII for the next little while and when I save up enough money, move onto an ITR.


And for those of you who expressed interest in my car, keep me in mind because who knows when a good deal on an ITR will come up ;)



But remember:

You are not buying the car, I am selling it to you, so I reserve the right to turn down any idiots who plan on stripping & raping my S5 TII from its pristine STOCK condition.


Thanks again everyone.

Hey I'm glad you guys love integras so much. Just go sing their praises in the integra forum so we don't have to look at them.

BTW if you ran 14.8 they would laugh you off the track.

most type Rs were beat on really hard...

but they are awesome cars... the first car i ever drove stick in was a type R, i had to drive a druken friend home.

Thats what I've read there stock times to be..care to say what your genuis mide thinks they run?

Go chase parked cars or try and figure out how to adjust your TPS or something...

:wave:

Dude if you would type in english I would be happy to respond.

i have been autocrossing for about 7 years and I just can't get used to the handling of a FF car. just don't like it.

I wouldn't drag race either car personally. You have some valid points Reflux. I choose a pretty S5 TII tho:)

Quaid you ass;)

Allright "dude"...:moon:


"wateva, I do what I want, wateva, you just mad cuz I got a body"

:flipoff:

You can adjust my TPS when you take an ESL class.

I can't take it anymore...and I'm, spent.

I'd go for the Inegra Type-R IF your not into working on your car all the time, etc. All up to you in the long run....not dushbags like...nevermind.

wow....a lot of misinformation in this thread. It's actually kind of scary since I thought a lot of the members of this site were knowledgable about other cars as well as the rx7.

Some facts for the honda-challenged.
1. The ITR is definitely sold in America
2. I've seen them go mid 14's bone stock.
3. With bolt on's and good driving you are in the 13's all day long
4. They are very reliable
5. One of the best handling ff cars - period.
6. Shines on an open road track
7. Good gas mileage
8. Huge aftermarket

before the turbo II I had a gsr. It was a really fun car that I could beat on daily and it would only come back asking for more. I thought about the ITR, but just didn't have the funds, although a 97 could be found for 16.500 in good condition. If what you say is true then maybe the ITR is for you. Now if you could have the ITR and keep the s5 t2...that would be perfect ;)

Man Marcus you are killing me! Its spelled -Doucebag-. :doh: But I do agree with you the inegra type R is a fine car but the -ITEGRA -is even better.

or was that integra??? or Itrga or rag? I quess I don't know cause I'm not in the Honda forum!

I just wanna clear myself, the ITR prolly does handle great(I've never driven one) but the only FF cars i have driven just don't sit too well with me.


that is all......carry on:)

Oh Christ, I hardly ever mis-spell words. Your presence set off a negative vibe to my keyboard and caused it to do wierd things.

P.S. Dushbag looks cooler. hehe..:jerkit:

:)

I'm sure "you've seen" a ITR hit low 14's, I'm sure it's possbile. I'm just going by the spec's I've seen, not what Joe Bob's, sister's, cousin saw his Dad's Vanawagon run in the 1/4 mile. j/k

If you would take a car that ran 14.0 to a drag strip then you are alot braver than me. Because you would feel real cool surrounded by 9,10,and 11 second cars.

S5 TII. It may not be as reliable as an ITR, but it sure looks alot better and definitely has more "soul".

I wouldn't sell my car for anything, well, I would take an even trade on a TT 300ZX or FD. :)

Not all cars at the strip run fucking 9-11's man...not sure where your from. Its not like your taking your car on a NHRA day to try and enter. You obviously are either very unaware or 10...which one?

Quaid.
or was that integra??? or Itrga or rag? I quess I don't know cause I'm not in the Honda forum!

Hey Quaid! what's your problem? if you don't like the integra... it just shows how closed minded you are. it is one of the best handling fwd cars period.
obviously you're not on a honda forum! the words RX7club.com should tell you that. (it's at the top of the page in case you didn't see it. the question was asked by Reflux. if you don't like the topic don't post.
yeah a turbo rx7 is faster than a stock ITR. no one argues that. but I don't see too many stock N/A rx7's running a 14.8 quarter mile. have you?
besides the ITR was meant for road racing. that's where you take a corner instead of going straight. that's what the ITR's are known for. Why is the ITR here in America? cause the gsr's were great for road racing too!! Integra's are about corners not straight line speed.
why do people make them fast? cause it's a challenge!!! why try to make an N/A fast!! it's slow as shit!! there are lots of reason's for buying cars, don't piss on people cause they like a different car. if your head wasn't so narrow you'd learn to appreciate all cars and how the break barriers.

Not like you have to do a whole lot more than that on an RX-7.

haha..haha..hahaha..oh that was funny...

My motor blew up the 2nd week (many reliable rotaries ofcourse, I just got one that had been driven by a Grandma and had excessive carbon bulid up causing apex seal failure, 2) I had it. Electrical problems, always messing with adjusting sesnors, finding idle problems, etc...this is going to be a problem with ANY older car...but theroetically, the rotary just requires more frequent fluid flushes, etc...no valve adjustments and all that fun boinker stuff. But rotaries DO REQUIRE more work than any other car I've had from what I've seen..I got her running like a beauty now though.

P.S. I was exaggerating with the laughs..;)