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ItsspelledRotary 07-02-09 08:14 AM

Seat belt recall help
 
I own a 91 RX7. I bought it with a salvaged title. I need to flatbed it to an inspection facility. My automatic seat belts do not move at all. Drivers is stuck in the door open position. Passenger's is stuck in the door closed position. Seat belt warning light is eternally on when car is running. If I connect the belts to the automatic belt buckles, I get chimes up the ass forever until I disconnect them. I have read about the seat belt recall, but I can't drive the car to a dealership to have them recall the belts until I go through inspection and get it registered. I can't go through inspection and get it registered until I have my seat belts fixed. Can I get the recall parts for free and do it myself? Anyone have experience with the seat belt recalls?

nycgps 07-02-09 08:22 AM

You HAVE to bring your car to Mazda dealer to get it fix ...

in your case hmm ... maybe tow your car to a dealership ? that should work.

g14novak 07-02-09 08:27 AM

They will not give you the belts for you to install on your own. And most dealerships will give you a lot of hell trying to do the seatbelt recall since its on a 20 year old car. They will try and tell you that the recall ended around 93. As long as you have the recall paper in hand, you shouldn't have any trouble with the dealership.

2slow4stock 07-02-09 12:29 PM

All 89+ have to have it replaced for FREE.

1SWEET7 07-02-09 01:13 PM

That sucks they check your seatbelts for registration. I thought Cali had crap laws. I would say tow it to the dealership is gonna be your only hope. Or you could just buy some Manual belts and end the whole problem forever because they WILL break again. I had 3 replaced in my old N/A 2 driver and 1 passenger.

j9fd3s 07-02-09 01:47 PM

if mazda knows its salvaged the recalls and warrantied become void. i would call mazda's 800 number to see if the recall would still apply.

RotarySupra 07-02-09 01:52 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Print this out,take it to the dealership.Thats what i did.GL

Omixeo 07-02-09 02:06 PM

You don't need to print anything out, just tell them you will call the mazda headquarters and give them the phone number to the dealership. If they still wont cooperate then actually call the mazda headquarters, they'll have someone call right away and bitch them out :).

Gregory Casimir 07-02-09 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by RotarySupra (Post 9330673)
Print this out,take it to the dealership.Thats what i did.GL

yeah your attachment is to small and i'd call them first and they told me to give them my vin. after i did that the guy told me to just brinit in and they'll fix it like so. But like i said call first.

BASTARD 07-02-09 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by RotarySupra (Post 9330673)
Print this out,take it to the dealership.Thats what i did.GL


lol... print this out... :lol: thats cute
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...0&d=1246560751

RotarySupra 07-02-09 02:59 PM

:squintfin
jerk!!! just trying to help!!!! lol







Originally Posted by BASTARD (Post 9330804)
lol... print this out... :lol: thats cute
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...0&d=1246560751


ItsspelledRotary 07-02-09 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by 1SWEET7
Or you could just buy some Manual belts and end the whole problem forever

I thought all 86-91 RX7's came with automatic seat belts? Was it an option?

1SWEET7 07-02-09 03:56 PM

I don't know if they were and option, my 90 N/A had auto belts, and my 10th AE doesn't.

j9fd3s 07-02-09 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by ItsspelledRotary (Post 9330943)
I thought all 86-91 RX7's came with automatic seat belts? Was it an option?

86-88 come with manual belts, in 1989 they had to add a "passive restraint" so in the USA ONLY we got the motorized belts.

ItsspelledRotary 07-06-09 06:13 AM

Thank you j9fd3s.

Now can the 86-88 manual belts be fitted on a 89+?

I'm assuming the lap and shoulder belts are together, not separate like the auto belts. And the manual belts originate up by your shoulder, not down by the center console. Is this swap possible?

clokker 07-06-09 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by ItsspelledRotary (Post 9337175)
Thank you j9fd3s.

Now can the 86-88 manual belts be fitted on a 89+?

I'm assuming the lap and shoulder belts are together, not separate like the auto belts. And the manual belts originate up by your shoulder, not down by the center console. Is this swap possible?

Yes, they can.
The manual belt retractor reel and the autobelt motor share the same location and bolt pattern (the manual belt does not "originate up by your shoulder", it simply has a pivot point there and even the autobelt chassis still has that mount in place).

PM me for more details.

ItsspelledRotary 07-07-09 07:03 AM

Wow, thanks clokker!!!

Looks like I'm junkyard bound!!

daviddeep 07-07-09 09:04 AM

To do the complete manual belt conversion and have it look good, you need to get the wider S4 headliner, the S4 A- and B-pillar trim, etc. If you search "manual belt conversion" I'm sure you'll find some threads detailing all the parts you need. If you want the parts to be black, you might look for a Canadian S5 car because they didn't have the automatic mouse belts. Or you could dye/paint S4 parts to match.

...unless you have a blue interior. If the car in your avatar photo is your car, you might at that. Then you can find what you need in S4 parts.

clokker 07-07-09 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by daviddeep (Post 9339713)
To do the complete manual belt conversion and have it look good, you need to get the wider S4 headliner, the S4 A- and B-pillar trim, etc.

The S4 a / b-pillar panels will NOT fit into a S5.

The S5 a-pillar mounts (primarily) to the mousetrack-which has been removed.
Under the mousetrack the chassis lacks the mount points required by the S4 trim.

As for the b-pillar...
The S5 b-panels sit further off the sheetmetal to create the depth required by the belt motor. As a result, the mount points are about an inch taller than those on the S4 chassis. Even assuming the mount points are identically located- and I'm not sure they are- the S4 panel would sit proud of the body.

When I did my belt conversion I prepared by purchasing a and b pillar trim from a S4, thinking I was being smart, only to discover that the panels would not work.
Still have the a-pillar trim (black) if anyone needs it.

daviddeep 07-07-09 01:32 PM

Interesting. So how did you end up finishing your interior? Did you just leave the old mouse tracks in so the the S5 A-pillar trim would have something to attach to? I apologize for hijacking this thread; if you have some pictures in another thread somewhere, could you PM me a link?

My interest in this subject is mostly academic at this point because I sold my old S5. I always dreamed of ridding it of those horrible motorized belts though. Mine worked fine after both sides were replaced by Mazda under warranty, but it seemed like I was always ducking to avoid being strangled by them at some point.

clokker 07-07-09 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by daviddeep (Post 9340272)
Did you just leave the old mouse tracks in so the the S5 A-pillar trim would have something to attach to?

No, although I thought of it.
The tab at the top of the windsheild and at the back ( where it underlaps the b-pillar panel) have been sufficient to hold the a-pillar trim in place.
Be there for well over a year and hasn't moved yet.

j9fd3s 07-07-09 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 9340191)
The S4 a / b-pillar panels will NOT fit into a S5.

The S5 a-pillar mounts (primarily) to the mousetrack-which has been removed.
Under the mousetrack the chassis lacks the mount points required by the S4 trim.

As for the b-pillar...
The S5 b-panels sit further off the sheetmetal to create the depth required by the belt motor. As a result, the mount points are about an inch taller than those on the S4 chassis. Even assuming the mount points are identically located- and I'm not sure they are- the S4 panel would sit proud of the body.

When I did my belt conversion I prepared by purchasing a and b pillar trim from a S4, thinking I was being smart, only to discover that the panels would not work.
Still have the a-pillar trim (black) if anyone needs it.

if you remove the tabs that held the S5 belts, then the s4 trim goes right in.

the bins and rear carpet are a little different too, so the s5 b pillar trim might be better to keep

clokker 07-07-09 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 9340404)
if you remove the tabs that held the S5 belts, then the s4 trim goes right in.

I'm afraid I don't follow.
What "tabs" held the belts?

ItsspelledRotary 07-08-09 06:57 AM

I really don't care if my interior is gutted, as long as I have functional seat belts for inspection. Last time I checked, A and B pillar trim is not required to pass inspection. And to be honest, I'm probably going to remove the manual belts after I pass inspection, so everything fits and looks stock. I never have and never will wear a seat belt. Seat belts are for people that don't know how to drive.

My interior is black, not blue.

ItsspelledRotary 07-08-09 08:40 AM

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...e/DSC00724.jpg

I have a feeling I can get my autobelts to work. It seems to be an electrical problem.

Is there suppost to be 12V at that red wire where the factory put a little access door to test?

There is a connector with a thick blue, thick yellow wire, thin black/blue stripe, and thin black. Where should power be coming from?


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