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midnightbluefc 11-17-12 03:40 PM

s4 slow power window/ sunroof issues
 
any rewires or relay fix? i know if we clean and regrease our sunroof it free's it up a tad bit. but for out windows any luck?

clokker 11-17-12 04:28 PM

Yes, here.

midnightbluefc 11-17-12 04:34 PM

awesome thank u sir! i have cleaned those crappy copper contacts soo many times that ive gotten fed up ans i even took my panels apart and regreased my window railings, my windows were greasy for a week!

clokker 11-17-12 04:59 PM

I just went to manual windows.

RotaryEvolution 11-17-12 05:13 PM

the sunroof should be cleaned and regreased as well. the dual window relay fix for the power windows is the best alternative for slow/weak windows.

there is no easy fix for the sunroof, since all the electronics are under the headliner.

midnightbluefc 11-17-12 05:29 PM

really ben, u serious, no solution for the slow sunroof?? i figured outta everyone you would have an answer:(

RotaryEvolution 11-17-12 05:32 PM

i clean my tracks periodically but the drains are all up under the headliner. it's a full day job to even attempt so i just use my hand to prop the sucker up and it works fine from there.

i haven't heard of any easy workarounds for the weak sunroof in the 10 years since i started working on them. maybe one day i will look into it, but likely not until i wind up ripping the interior out of my car to switch it to black, the grey is just worked over.

midnightbluefc 11-17-12 05:42 PM

lol, i remember the crunch your rear compartment linds make when transporting grimey 13b short blocks i have provided u with LMAO!

rx7_FREAKKK 11-17-12 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11289461)

Just so we are clear on things. This is a mod? So what does it do? Speed up the motor faster than stock windows? Or back to its Normal speed?

RotaryEvolution 11-17-12 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by midnightbluefc (Post 11289523)
lol, i remember the crunch your rear compartment linds make when transporting grimey 13b short blocks i have provided u with LMAO!

lol, that will happen when you set a 300lb block on some plastic. :)





Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK (Post 11289531)
Just so we are clear on things. This is a mod? So what does it do? Speed up the motor faster than stock windows? Or back to its Normal speed?

it saves the switches and applies full amperage to the motors, they should work as well as when the car was brand new. in stock format the switch bridges the power junction, ALL the power to the windows goes across the old worn out 25 year old switch connections and they cause high resistance and amperage drops. the mod converts the switch to a low load control switch versus a power fed switch, this reduces the arcing and the relays do all the work and are designed to actually handle the job versus our window switches. virtually every car out there now has relays that do the job for any moderate electrical load, as failure prevention.

over time the switch contacts just get burnt out, requiring cleaning to work somewhat ok. even switches that looked perfect to me would not work, this avoids those situations.

rx7_FREAKKK 11-17-12 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution (Post 11289541)
lol, that will happen when you set a 300lb block on some plastic. :)






it saves the switches and applies full amperage to the motors, they should work as well as when the car was brand new. in stock format the switch bridges the power junction, ALL the power to the windows goes across the old worn out 25 year old switch connections and they cause high resistance and amperage drops. the mod converts the switch to a low load control switch versus a power fed switch, this reduces the arcing and the relays do all the work and are designed to actually handle the job versus our window switches. virtually every car out there now has relays that do the job for any moderate electrical load, as failure prevention.

over time the switch contacts just get burnt out, requiring cleaning to work somewhat ok. even switches that looked perfect to me would not work, this avoids those situations.

OK Thanks. I was not sure on that. Thanks agian. The reason i asked is i have an s4 GXL with the same issue.

RexRyder 11-18-12 07:49 PM

I was messing around with the windows and found out that applying 12v + directly from the battery to the black wire coming off the switch will speed up the windows.

midnightbluefc 11-18-12 08:44 PM

Clokker provided an link on his reply that is very helpful I will do this very soon

misterstyx69 11-18-12 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by midnightbluefc (Post 11289432)
any rewires or relay fix? i know if we clean and regrease our sunroof it free's it up a tad bit. but for out windows any luck?

3 days ago:
I just got a 88 and that sunroof would NOT go..seized up Like a Nun's thighs.
So,I take the time to rip the liner out,put up another one..CRAP..That one had tracks and cables gummed up too..Slid like an 80 year old going onto the interstate.
#3 was the Best..like Butter!..smooth.
So..My solution?..find a whole Shitload of sunroof assemblies and put in the Best one..LOL!
Windows?I went manual..

Havoc 11-19-12 12:19 AM

I did the relay mod to the sunroof. Fixed it right up ! love having a operating sunroof again :)

Laxfreak3557 11-19-12 12:31 AM

Will that mod work on an s5 as well?

clokker 11-19-12 05:49 AM

Yes.


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