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Andrew. 01-05-05 09:08 PM

Possibly found my next project, s5 na $400
 
Hey,

I was hitting up the mazda dealerships for some touch up paint for my fc and it took them a hour to find the paint code for noble white, so i did my snooping around and i remember coming here before and they had a black convertable driven by the parts department guy with a rebuild and new paint job and he never drives it.

Then in the back there is a convertable sitting in the back for sale and a red s5 na that isn't in so good shape (has little dents, small cracked tail lights) and the guy who was selling it said they couldn't start it, so i go in, pull the egi fuse (i didn't know i just had to floor it for s5) and crank it then put it back in, floor it and it starts up, made a fool out of the mechanics who couldn't start it i'll tell you that.

So back to the story. I go and see a Nice s5 sitting back there, s5 gxl, straight body, a little push in on the front bumper by the foglights, paint isn't sooo great but its ok and the s5 tails are perfect. Interior is black and is Dirty but it can be cleaned up, just has lots of pet hairs, it has bad shifter bushings and ~150k if i remember right. Then i looked at the price 400 bucks! the guy said its been sitting here for a year and I never saw it, weird! He said it needed a battery so he tried to put a charger and i tried to work my magic but it wouldn't crank over, all the idiot lights went on, and it was hitting 12 on the volts and when i would try to crank it i heard the starter do the "click" and the volts would drop to zero and it wouldn't beep anymore. I could probably talk this guy down more, and i offered him 50 bucks for the s5's + my s4 lights to put on it if i didn't want the car and he agreed. So what do you think the problem could possibly be? And is it worth it? i can possibly talk him down more. Sorry for the long talk.

-Andrew

The Spyder 01-05-05 09:17 PM

Dead starter :). What interior????

Andrew. 01-05-05 09:20 PM

Black interior, but i thought when you heard the starter do its click it meant its running right?

cds00bsmg 01-05-05 09:26 PM

I would purchase it if you have money burning a hole in your pocket. You can part it out for more than your initial investment if you cannot getting running properly. As far as what is wrong, I have no idea, there are a decent amount of possabilities, It could be flooded, etc. If possible, compression test it.

Andrew. 01-05-05 10:57 PM

I'll be going there on friday, i'm gonna take some pics :)

slpin 01-05-05 11:21 PM

get it
good deal wont alst

StinkyTurbo 01-06-05 12:55 AM

Its probably the starter not touching the flywheel. The starters teeth aren't spinning so it isn't grabbing the flywheel which in turn isn't crancking the engine.

Andrew. 01-06-05 09:21 PM

^Yeah i hope its that, to check if the engine is seized i put a 19mm wrench on the main puley and turn it and if it moves it isn't seized right? Hell my fc is down for a couple more days should i take my battery tommorow and put it on there? I'll have pics and a writeup when i'm back, this thing is more and more tempting, i think i can break a deal and ask him for the slightly cracked s5 tail lights off the other fc and a price break, he's Desperate to sell the car. How much should i offer? i have a list of roughly 100 dollars of maint. items to do to it that can help take it down too.

-Andrew

Sir Rupert Hobo 01-06-05 10:34 PM

i'll buy it for 450!

DAMNIT i wish i found deals like that over here

slpin 01-06-05 10:35 PM

i would just get it.... if not, i will get it! ;)

Andrew. 01-06-05 10:42 PM

Yeah I guess its good, i know of other deals but they don't seem to be as "good" as this one, cept that TII w/reman ;)

-Andrew

Andrew. 01-07-05 05:25 PM

Ok no pictures or anything today cause it was raining and i didn't feel like going out there. But i wrote up a list to show the guy what i have to do to get this car in running order if the motor isn't blown:
The Basics:
Castrol GTX 20W50 - 15
OEM Filter- 5
NGK Spark Plugs- 25
NGK Wires- 25
Prestone Coolant- 10
Distilled water- 2
Prestone Flush- 3
Alternator, Smog, PS and A/C belt-50
Flush Gas tank and put new gas- 10
Registration- 50
Smog- 40

More:
Redline MT-90- 35
Redline 75-90- 20
OEM Fuel Filter-25
Upper & Lower Rad. Hoses- 25
Fuel lines For filter & Fuel Rails- 20
New Vacuum lines-15
Injector Rebuild-60
Clamps-10
Gaskets-20

Thats nearly 500 bucks of things I can put in this guys face to lower the price. Also just to check cause the question wasn't answered if i put a 19mm on the main pulley and if it spins the motor isn't seized right? I should look to the starter next. and i can take my battery as well.

uRizen 01-07-05 05:36 PM

Where do you guys normally find these cheap RX7s? I need a project 7 I can can rip to shit and keep my GXL in good shape for daily driving (being a DD, I haven't been able to strip the hell out of it). :D

JamesBong 01-07-05 05:53 PM

When I tried to start my wife's RX-7 that'd been sitting dead for three years it did that. I think the starter solonoid was jammed or something, because I tried it a few more times after a battery re-charge, and it started right up! Of course, it might be the dreaded carbon lock. If I new about that, I would have tried turning the shaft with a wrench first.

neofreak 01-07-05 06:29 PM

Regardless if the motor is blown or not a rolling chassis is worth that much at least.

RotaryEvolution 01-07-05 06:33 PM

a battery terminal is loose or corroded, remove both terminals and clean them and resecure them and i bet it cranks over, if it isn't carbon locked that is...

capn 01-07-05 11:36 PM

OKAY if its clicking that is the solenoid. you are either not getting enough voltage to the starter/solenoid for it to fully engage on the contacts. OR the solenoid is bad

Andrew89GTU 01-08-05 01:11 AM

loose battery wires. my old '89 GTU sometimes did that. just a click and everything stopped, no power. the wires weren't on securely, so it couldn't pass enough voltage to start it, and it would just make the click and drain what power the system already had in it, killing everything pretty much, because it couldn't draw power from the battery fast enough. just check the wires, pretty much. probably something simple like that.

-Andrew-

MrSparkle 01-08-05 02:02 AM

where in south cali is this fc? i would like to "look" at it ;)

Andrew. 01-08-05 07:03 PM

its not in south cali ;) btw if i bought both s5's straight body, black interior, everything is there how much do you think i could make parting it out?

MrSparkle 01-08-05 07:19 PM

depends on what works and what condition stuff is in. but the engine, harness, ecu and black interior itself is worth around $400.

therotaryrocket 01-08-05 08:46 PM

of freakin' course its loose battery cables, if it was the starter soiloned then you could hold the key in the on position and the voltage meter should still read 9 something volts. Do you guys never find good deals? I got my turbo II for $500 and got it running and driving in 3 days, needs clutch and has leaking fuel injector, the paint was beatiful as well as the interior minus the ripped leather seats. I bought my 85 GS for $150, my friend's 87 base was $375, another friend payed $200 for a 87 gxl with a nice 1 year old paint job, tires with one day of driving on them. Sounds exactly like battery cables, try a wire brush or a designated battery post and terminal tool, and some die-electric grease, maybe even some gold plated terminals (we got them at Advanced Auto Parts for like $8 bucks). good luck, don't part it just fix it.

uRizen 01-08-05 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by therotaryrocket
of freakin' course its loose battery cables, if it was the starter soiloned then you could hold the key in the on position and the voltage meter should still read 9 something volts. Do you guys never find good deals? I got my turbo II for $500 and got it running and driving in 3 days, needs clutch and has leaking fuel injector, the paint was beatiful as well as the interior minus the ripped leather seats. I bought my 85 GS for $150, my friend's 87 base was $375, another friend payed $200 for a 87 gxl with a nice 1 year old paint job, tires with one day of driving on them. Sounds exactly like battery cables, try a wire brush or a designated battery post and terminal tool, and some die-electric grease, maybe even some gold plated terminals (we got them at Advanced Auto Parts for like $8 bucks). good luck, don't part it just fix it.

You guys all suck. :P All the FCs and FBs in the Minnesota area are being sold by rape artists. I had to drive to Madison Wisconsin to get my GXL for $2,000 in good running condition and ok paint (body needed some love though).

RotaryEvolution 01-08-05 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by capn
OKAY if its clicking that is the solenoid. you are either not getting enough voltage to the starter/solenoid for it to fully engage on the contacts. OR the solenoid is bad


if it is the solenoid that is bad then why is it clicking? :D
try a bad starter motor, not solenoid. :)

Andrew. 01-08-05 10:20 PM

^I love this guy. Btw if you must know of another good deal i know of it's online but maybe you don't know its a 88 TII with a reman that has a electrical problem blowing its main fuse everytime it tries to crank, its got 800 miles, its got extra parts not installed: like a to4b turbo with under 1k miles, greddy bov, hks boost controller, installed: catback exhaust, intake (not sure what brand), strut toewr bar and its 1800 bucks but you can probably talk him down to 1500. Yes i can give you the location whoever just pm me, karack if you want it you have first dibs, you always help me out.

-Andrew

sectachrome 01-08-05 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by neofreak
Regardless if the motor is blown or not a rolling chassis is worth that much at least.

for real, people buy the taillights alone for like 200 bucks. definitely grab that thing!

sectachrome 01-08-05 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
^I love this guy. Btw if you must know of another good deal i know of it's online but maybe you don't know its a 88 TII with a reman that has a electrical problem blowing its main fuse everytime it tries to crank, its got 800 miles, its got extra parts not installed: like a to4b turbo with under 1k miles, greddy bov, hks boost controller, installed: catback exhaust, intake (not sure what brand), strut toewr bar and its 1800 bucks but you can probably talk him down to 1500. Yes i can give you the location whoever just pm me, karack if you want it you have first dibs, you always help me out.

-Andrew

:eek::eek::eek:

Jager 01-08-05 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by uRizen
You guys all suck. :P All the FCs and FBs in the Minnesota area are being sold by rape artists. I had to drive to Madison Wisconsin to get my GXL for $2,000 in good running condition and ok paint (body needed some love though).

:Werd:

Andrew. 01-10-05 08:49 PM

Got Pics, 30 of the first fc and 31 of the 2nd, rofl!

Andrew. 01-10-05 08:54 PM

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Car 1- S5 GXL 4 pot brakes, no cracks on anything, slight dent on s5 bumper primer on fender (just a little)

Andrew. 01-10-05 09:02 PM

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Car 1- S5 GXL 4 pot brakes, no cracks on anything, slight dent on s5 bumper primer on fender (just a little)

Andrew. 01-10-05 09:11 PM

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Reman motor i saw there, psh tried to offer it for 50 bucks, what a rip! ;)

Andrew. 01-11-05 02:42 PM

Any one's opinion?

Ricer240sx 01-11-05 03:49 PM

if u pick that up i could send some dough ur way for that bumper and fog lights!! ;)

maybe a couple other things too :)

Andrew. 01-11-05 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
if u pick that up i could send some dough ur way for that bumper and fog lights!! ;)

maybe a couple other things too :)

;) i think i'll keep it, time for pics of the 2nd one.

Andrew. 01-11-05 07:43 PM

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BTW I've started this motor, lots of smoke out the back, maybe because it wasn't started for a while? grey smoke, didn't really smell sweet.

therotaryrocket 01-11-05 08:03 PM

$400 dollars sounds okay, that car looks like it has some potential. I say go for it, don't part it out. Those wheels are pimp. Grey smoke as in whitish grey? How long did the car run? The smoke was their the whole time? My FB smoked pure white smoke out the tail pipe for like 5-6 minutes straight, my turbo II smoked for about 3.5 minutes, both cars now run nice without much smoke at all.

Andrew. 01-11-05 08:07 PM

Yeah, 400 for the 1st one, pics on end of 2nd page and beginning 3rd, the 2nd one not sure on price yet and it is the last 2 posts i posted. After i started it up it started to ease up on the smoke, at first it was ALOT then it started calming down. by the way about putting the 19mm wrench on the main pulley i have to take off the clutch fan huh? i couldn't jimmy my way around it. I'm thinking of getting the first one and maybe later on getting the 2nd one for a part out.

-Andrew

GTUser 01-12-05 11:24 AM

here is a pic of my $400 89. It took some work and some money to get it back but its a daily driver and I could not buy a car that is more fun, or performs better than my GTU for the money I've put into it. Besides it keeps me busy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2VIR121004.jpg

Buy the car, get it running, sell it for a profit or restore and enjoy it. Please do part out a car in this condition.

Andrew. 01-12-05 12:37 PM

GTUser your car looks like the exact condition of the gxl, i just think yours has better paint. I've decided to get the gxl, but first i'm going to go to mazda, check if title is clear, i think registration expired in december 04 and put my battery on it and do a compression test. I bought a tune up kit but it didn't come with a spark plug adapter does anyone know where to get one? and as soon as i finish registering/smogging my 88 gtu its going to be up for sale and i hope to make what i want off it. Also the list i made on the first page, what are just the basics to do before i actually start it? I think this is good enough right?

Castrol GTX 20W50 - 10
OEM Filter- 5
Prestone Coolant- 10
Distilled water- 2
Prestone Flush- 3
Alternator, Smog belt -20

As for the 91 coupe, it can stay there until i want to part that out. and is that bumper worth anything? How much do you think i can sell the gxl if i cleaned it up really nice, did a full tune up, and registered/smogged it?

Andrew. 01-12-05 12:39 PM

Repost

GTUser 01-13-05 10:26 AM

Its too nice of a car and has too much potential to part it out. You're doing the smart thing by checking the title and I'd run a check on the VIN number just to be sure. Change the fluids and then get it started, the spark plug wrench I use is about 13/16", I don't know the metric equivalent but any good auto parts store or Sears should have a socket that'll work. Let us know what you find out about the car. Good Luck

PS - what I meant to say in my previous post is don't part it out! I'm glad you feel the same way abut these beautiful cars.

Ricer240sx 01-13-05 07:26 PM

hey, i jsut fell into a very simmilar situation!! im getting a 86 GLX for $300, theres a bad seal i guess so it over heats, has leaking primary injectors so it floods, and thats about all the problems it has!! so i will get it fix it up and prolly sell it :)


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