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90socalvert 01-21-10 11:47 AM

pilot bearing removal
 
Whats the easiest way to remove a pilot bearing if you dont have a bearing puller? Autozone dosent have the right style, and im trying not to spend 100$ on the tool from mazdatrix.

RotaryEvolution 01-21-10 11:48 AM

die grinder works just fine.

farberio 01-21-10 11:58 AM

Autozone puller has worked for me, I have used it at least 4 times.

RotaryEvolution 01-21-10 12:11 PM

it really depends on how deep the bearing is installed in the e-shaft. i have had to cut out more than i have been able to get out with the bearing pullers.

90socalvert 01-21-10 12:15 PM

I'll try to use the puller first then resort to the die grinder. Is it important to put in a new seal, because the clutch kit i got didnt come with one.

RotaryEvolution 01-21-10 12:18 PM

no, i rarely use the seal because they only last for a few K miles before they get brittle and the seal is compromised anyways(causing potential other problems like seal material getting into the bearing). just be sure to clean all the debris out of the e-shaft area and input shaft before reassembling. also be sure to lube it up, but don't pack it full of grease, too much isn't good and will collect clutch dust.

90socalvert 01-21-10 12:23 PM

ok thanks for the advice i was dreading paying 10$ shipping on 2$ seal.

SoloII///M 01-21-10 12:54 PM

Autozone puller has always worked for me.

I just pulled a bearing and seal that had about 120,000 miles on them and the seal was mint. I would always use the seal. personal preference i guess.

jackhild59 01-21-10 01:07 PM

It's not a $100 tool to pull the pilot bearing unless you buy the Mazdatrix puller.

Here is my thread- https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ng#post8871977


Also, why are you buying $2 part/$10 freight from Mazdatrix that you can buy at NAPA for....$2? You can buy pilot bearings, pilot bearing seals, throwout bearings etc from companies that sell autoparts.

You can also buy transmission seals and rear engine seals at Napa, Orielly etc. Great Idea to replace those while you are in there.


Someone is going to post up and say that the only truly usable bearings and seals have to come from Mazdatrix/Atkins/Pineapple etc.

Do you really think that Mazda's general parts are all that exotic?

:rolleyes:

farberio 01-21-10 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 9752445)
it really depends on how deep the bearing is installed in the e-shaft. i have had to cut out more than i have been able to get out with the bearing pullers.

I see what your saying, but not really. One of the ones I pulled was seated way to far back and I just tightened autozone puller to the max and yanked it out of there. The puller squished a couple rollers out but it came out without too much fuss.

eage8 01-21-10 03:07 PM

I borrowed the mazda tool from a friend when I did mine and it came out like cake...

solareon 01-21-10 03:29 PM

done it with the autozone puller 3 times. Used a grinder to shave it down a bit and put a diff oring on it but it works like a champ

90socalvert 01-21-10 05:51 PM

I used the autozone puller. I just had to grind down the teeth so it would fit inside the pilot bearing.

Whats the best way to gauge the depth the new bearing and seal should installed?

misterstyx69 01-21-10 06:10 PM

I used a dremel.

boosted1205 01-21-10 10:49 PM

I used a dremel too.
Be patient and it will grind through the wall. It's stainless steel so take your time and eventually will go through.
Then I used a screw driver to pry it out.
If the pilot bearing is too far deep, there won't be any lip for the removal fork to grab on to. So on next install, don't tap it in all the all down.

rotarybeat1287 01-22-10 01:06 AM

Yeah dremel works just fine. lol. 3 times so far in my cars and went very smooth and fast. Just be SUPER careful. Not bad @ all.

nycgps 01-22-10 10:14 AM

I have the Mazda's official tool.

Completely painless.

AmviciousRav 01-22-10 04:48 PM

I'd also recommend getting the mazda's offical tool, I tried using the auto zone version (it was already cut down n stuff but it was useless in the end because the people at auto zone don't take care of their shit)

I used other ways to take out a pilot bearing (like a ghetto rigged coat rack), pain in the ass working under the car trying to stick it in and having enough grip to pull it out

the mazda tool rules, in n out in under a minute

slowrx7er 01-24-10 08:56 PM

fill the hole with grease pack it in use a socket with papers stuffed in it and hit it with a hammer the grease will push the bearing out.

SoloII///M 01-25-10 04:46 AM

I've tried the grease method on other cars. It has never done anything more than just make a mess.

lov-2-rev 01-26-10 09:54 AM

Made my own puller similar to the "official Mazda" tool. Works great.

Jackhild-- Did you ever resolve the question of pilot bearing seat depth?

ilia 01-26-10 10:02 AM

I used a rented puller, but you have to make sure that the arms of the puller are very rigid, and use the kind that threads onto a slide hammer.

This is the exact tool that worked well for me:

http://greatnecktools.com/product_in...ecialty-engine

The Shaolin 01-26-10 10:51 AM

I gave a $100 deposit plus $20 for shipping and their time to another forum member...they shipped the Mazda tool to me, I yanked the bearing in 6 seconds, mailed it back, got my deposit back. $20 well spent.

nycgps 01-26-10 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by The Shaolin (Post 9762826)
I gave a $100 deposit plus $20 for shipping and their time to another forum member...they shipped the Mazda tool to me, I yanked the bearing in 6 seconds, mailed it back, got my deposit back. $20 well spent.

I think the Mazda's tool is worth it.

it seems expensive like a hundred bucks. still bought it

and it really saved me tons of time, it works on FC and FE. One day I will get a FD and Im pretty sure it works for that too.

jackhild59 01-26-10 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by lov-2-rev (Post 9762715)
Made my own puller similar to the "official Mazda" tool. Works great.

Jackhild-- Did you ever resolve the question of pilot bearing seat depth?


I set the pilot bearing in just deep enough that the pilot bearing seal was flush with the end of the eshaft. There is a mazda tool, but I think I used a socket.

88SE_HI 01-26-10 08:12 PM

Mazdatrix came out with a tool for installing the pilot bearing as well.

lov-2-rev 01-26-10 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by jackhild59 (Post 9763890)
I set the pilot bearing in just deep enough that the pilot bearing seal was flush with the end of the eshaft. There is a mazda tool, but I think I used a socket.

Cool, thanks for the info. Don't ya love how versitle sockets are? :D

Gurew 01-26-10 08:26 PM

idk about all you guys but harbor freight sells a blind hole bearing puller...works AWESOME, best $40 i ever spent :) basically the same as the mazda tool only not as compact ...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95987

enjoy ;)

Gurew 01-26-10 08:28 PM

quick trick i use to get the new bearing in....heat the end of the eccentric shaft with a torch to expand the metal...then do work and install the bearing...obviously you don't want the end to be blazing hot but enough so that you can get the bearing in a little easier...now is the time to install a new rear main seal and transmission front/rear seals....they are cheap enough you might as well do it

championadrien 01-26-10 10:25 PM

Autozone Puller failed on me miserably, worked at it for 2 hours.

Then I tried this.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/pilot-tool-533854/
[Buttsjim's post.]


And it took it right out. I had to buy the machine screw but cheaper than a pilot bearing puller that I probably wouldn't use too often.

nycgps 01-26-10 11:41 PM

I tried Autozone's puller before (the Free Loan a Tool one right?) , their puller was too big for the bearing.

Mazda all the way :)

Aaron Cake 01-27-10 09:38 AM

Most of the tools that auto parts stores lend out are worn. If the pilot bearing pullers jaws are worn, then it will be a whore to use.

Honestly I've Dremeled them out and used the bearing puller. After using a NEW bearing puller, I will never use the Dremel again. The Dremel is fine to remove a damaged bearing outside of the car, but when the engine is in the car, the proper tool is the only way to go.

Just tap the new bearing in place with a hammer and the appropriately sized socket. Same with the seal. Lube everything well in bearing grease first and make sure the bore doesn't have any burs.

Tofuball 01-28-10 12:47 PM

I broke down and bought the tool, I was doing this so often I figured it was worth it. I think it was $75 and I've ended up having at least 5 people borrow it from me.

Buy one and be instantly popular with your local RX-7 crowd! :)


Originally Posted by eage8 (Post 9752902)
I borrowed the mazda tool from a friend when I did mine and it came out like cake...

You found a tool that turns worn bearings into cake?! Sign me up!


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