ok, who could beat me?
 

ok heres the story. i have an 87 n/a base model which has a hell of a lot of pop in it with a full exhaust system and some basic other mods that are very inexpensive.

i have 2 friends that are getting cars soon. one of them is getting a 95 or 94 or 96 civic, some year of the newer body style. and he says hes gonna "drop" a jdm engine in it and he could smoke me. i know that isn't true. 1st question, how much work/money would he have to put into his civic to beat me(i know noone knows exact numbers haha )

i have another friend who has about 6000$ saved up and he may either get an 88 or 89 supra turbo charged or an early 90's mr2. i know the mr2 is gonna be turbocharged and should make about 180 hp and the supra should make over 200 hp. can someone sum up how badly i would be beaten and emmbarassed by these cars hahah? or do i still have a chance against them...

Well, the MR2's going to have the fastest quarters out of them (assuming they're stock) The early 90 MR2's ran 14.2-14.4. The Supra will net somewhere around 15.4, which is obviously faster than a '87 NA is going to be. Now, consdering you have the base you're a little lighter than the heavier cars, but I still can't see doing any better than a 15.8 (and that's if you run perfect, I'd guess 16.2 or so) Against the civic, can't really tell unless you figure out what goes in it.

well if the civic is stock what would he run...and from that...how much WOULD he have to add in order to even get it close to the other cars

Your buddy obviously thinks JDM = Fast. Not necessarily true. A lot of japanese cars have LESS power than their american counterparts. You should be able to beat the Honda pretty easily. You might be kinda close to the other two cars, depending on what exactly "full-exhaust" refers to... Do you mean you have a Racing Beat system (or something along those lines) or a Mom-and-Pop homemade thing?

also with an N/A you are dealing with the general issue that unless you streetport or do something more drastic you will only hit around 200-215HP respectivly.

its a full exhaust street legal system, 2 high flow cats and down pipe from rx.com and a monza/pacesetter cat back...

you would not hit 200-215 without a street port..

oh wait, i was thinking S5..sorry, I haven't slept in like 72 hours...seriously

i know i prob have about 150 hp but my car is a lot lighter than those cars...

you could make 200hp with a large street port, Haltech, Exhaust, Intake, and no accesories. By exhaust I mean illegal ones not highflo cats.

When flyby dyno's his car we will know for sure. His car is nicely built.

so basically against a turbo charged 6 cylinder supra and a tiny turbocharged mr2 i won't have a prayer...oh well...i can still beat retards in their hondas

bingo: thats the way to look at it, and if they keep doubting the power of the rotary get someone here with a TII to come down there and let them see the power of a rotary, because al they'll ever see, is their tail lights.

Yea basicaly unless you go loco with the porting like a bridge or peripheral or shoot some NAWS in there you will loose to the TURBO cars but I think tha Civic will lose to you. I slaughtered an accord no problem when I just had cone filter. I can't wait till I see that guy in his neon billboard car again I will smoke him so bad now.

hah i killed a prelude w/ a full exhaust, intake, new injectors S-AFC, just to name a few. The idiot had a CF hood, his load on the front was too light and the damn tires just spun. I know he would have probably beat me but he couldn't get his tires to stop spinning lmao. Sorry this happened last weekend and its still fresh in my mind

your car is stock? Cuz that is what your sig says.

l33trx7

yep, there is absolutley nothing modded on my car...yet

if you mean the mods i stated...thats what the prelude had.

haha that lude guy must have been like WFT lol

What mods are you planning?

full exhaust and intake for now, then I'll invest in suspension mods...I like auto-x. But...right now im in the market for a TII if I can find one that will be my "Mod" lol

oh yeah, when we puled over he was like how the fsck did you beat me, my car is modded. I was like, its simple physics, your FF and you have a CF hood. Less weight on the front means easier lift and loss of traction.

God why wasn't I an engineering student....oh yeah calculus...*shudders*

well I am in the suspension and cosmetics stage myself. All I need to do is to finnish A/C removal and Emmisions removal. I plan on getting some coil overs and replacing all the bushings and such. I also want some good tires but not ones that will only last six months. I need tires that will last a good two to three years. I am keeping the BBS rims for now and I want to get a cage and some seats with a six point for me and a four point for the passenger side( girlfriend). I also want to remove my power steering. then it will be all body work and paint from then on until I find some thing else to fix or upgrade. That is if my engine holds up but I expect it to.

hmm well im also getting a cage and the saefty stuff, but i know a guy who actually races pro and he has connections through his sponsers. He can get me all the safety stuff including two 6 point harness seats, full cage (i honestly forget how many points), net, and other goodies for under 1k installed. God I love knowiong people. It helps that I recovered his fininces from his computer (10 years worth). Hence why we are friends

darn you

It will cost me upwards of 4G's to do all of that.