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OutCold 09-12-11 06:07 AM

No Turn&Harzard aswell as no Door&Dome lights
 
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Suddenly 2 weeks ago i notice i have neither blinkers or Hazardlights, or any door & Dome light...I started by checking the fusebox inside the coupè and no fuses were blown there, in other words all ok in the fusebox. Then i checked the diagrams of the blinkers and it seems to me like the blinkers & hazard signals go through a wire and switch into the CPU located just beside the fusebox inside the car, is that correct?

I am missing 2 switches here, ive marked the ones i have and the ones i dont have in the picture below...i also noticed that the lower big green switch on my fusebox inside the car had been pulled out but i havent been down there to do anything but change fuses and never touched the wires except im suspecting something got pulled while i was laying in new wires for my stereo. And the switch that is supposed to go into the bottom slot marked with an X is NOWHERE to be found.....And the manual and the actual switches and pins dont match AT ALL...... :S



It doesnt really make sense with the diagrams or connections either...i am absolutely fuckwadded to as what i can do to find the problem, any suggestions? I had ALOT more to list or write up here but i dont wanna confuse anyone any further in this first post and see what kinda suggestions i get. Thanks everyone

OutCold 09-12-11 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by OutCold (Post 10783284)
Suddenly 2 weeks ago i notice i have neither blinkers or Hazardlights, or any door & Dome light...I started by checking the fusebox inside the coupè and no fuses were blown there, in other words all ok in the fusebox. Then i checked the diagrams of the blinkers and it seems to me like the blinkers & hazard signals go through a wire and switch into the CPU located just beside the fusebox inside the car, is that correct?

I am missing 2 switches here, ive marked the ones i have and the ones i dont have in the picture below...i also noticed that the lower big green switch on my fusebox inside the car had been pulled out but i havent been down there to do anything but change fuses and never touched the wires except im suspecting something got pulled while i was laying in new wires for my stereo. And the switch that is supposed to go into the bottom slot marked with an X is NOWHERE to be found.....And the manual and the actual switches and pins dont match AT ALL...... :S


It doesnt really make sense with the diagrams or connections either...i am absolutely fuckwadded to as what i can do to find the problem, any suggestions? I had ALOT more to list or write up here but i dont wanna confuse anyone any further in this first post and see what kinda suggestions i get. Thanks everyone

Oh BTW, if anyone has a picture of the same area around the fusebox and CPU id LOVE too see them as they would help me determine alot of things about my own car. The past owner did everything halfway and now i am cleaning up after him :(

satch 09-12-11 11:08 AM

Your CPU should have a 7 wire plug at the bottom which has a Black/Blue wire and this wire should have constant voltage (no key necessary). This plug can be removed from the CPU to test for voltage if it is to cramp to test it while plugged in. If this particular wire does indeed have voltage on it then the 10 amp Hazard fuse is good. If the wire does not have voltage then either the Hazard fuse is bad or the connection is bad or the 60 amp BTN fuse in the Engine bay fuse box is bad. So check for voltage on the Black/Blue wire and see what you get.

OutCold 09-12-11 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by satch (Post 10783501)
Your CPU should have a 7 wire plug at the bottom which has a Black/Blue wire and this wire should have constant voltage (no key necessary). This plug can be removed from the CPU to test for voltage if it is to cramp to test it while plugged in. If this particular wire does indeed have voltage on it then the 10 amp Hazard fuse is good. If the wire does not have voltage then either the Hazard fuse is bad or the connection is bad or the 60 amp BTN fuse in the Engine bay fuse box is bad. So check for voltage on the Black/Blue wire and see what you get.

Hey champ thanks for getting back to me!

The wire plug in question is the white one on the first (far left) picture below yeah?

Gonna run down to the garage and have a go for it

OutCold 09-12-11 05:27 PM

As im not a very good handler of electrics i decided to test with an Ohm modus instead of voltage, if i still need to do a voltage test let me know cause then i can have a bud come over tomorrow and help me out, the test with the ohm meter showed no errors in the 7 pin contact, the "signal" pins made my meter beep thou, whatever that means haha (sorry its borrowed so im not familiar with it)

satch 09-12-11 07:36 PM

You need to check the voltage. For some reason your wire colors at the 7 wire plug differs slightly from the FSM wiring diagram. The FSM indicates you should have a solid Black wire, a Light Green wire, and four Green striped wires which it appears your plug have, but you don't seem to have the Black/Blue wire but a Red wire instead for some reason. So, you need to check for voltage on the Red wire w/no key in the ignition and this will tell where to go from there.

To check for voltage is rather simple as the meter is first set to "DC voltage" and then the Red meter terminal is placed on the wire that should have voltage and the other meter lead, which happens to be Black, on a suitable ground and the meter will give you the voltage level.

OutCold 09-13-11 09:18 AM

So ive checked the voltage on the connection in the CPU and it got...well..something...im using mV mode which im guessing is milliVolts and it keeps running up to about 400.0 mV then starting the cycle from 0 and up to 400 again and keeps on doing this...btw the Domelights and courtesy lights are back, just turn and hazards missing now

satch 09-13-11 09:29 AM

You want "DC volts" not millivolts. Practice on a flashlight battery or something similar.

OutCold 09-13-11 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by satch (Post 10784817)
You want "DC volts" not millivolts. Practice on a flashlight battery or something similar.

haha i did.and it showed 1500,(0) mVolts which is 1,5 Volts that the battery puts out. MAybe my dad mislead me, he will pay for this!!! Anyways.....DC Volts is V with the wave..y..ish line or the dotted or straight? So sorry for putting u through this mate :)

satch 09-13-11 04:54 PM

It would be illustrated as DCV with an equal sign above the V.

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2...timeter.th.png

If you must use milli volts then use millivolts. Use the Black wire in the 7 wire plug as your ground for the Black meter lead and the Red meter lead to the Red wire w/key to on and it should read 12 volts or in your case 1200 millivolts.

OutCold 09-18-11 03:43 AM

Im not doing it the right way am i :\

http://vimeo.com/29210407

satch 09-18-11 09:50 AM

It's usually easier to stick the meter terminals into the back of the plug as they stay wedged into place as opposed to the front of it.

OutCold 09-18-11 10:23 AM

I also found THIS in one of my headlights

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...6/P1020249.jpg

OutCold 09-18-11 02:38 PM

Yeah...no ive kinda had it with this car. Multimeter gives me a diff f*cking measure every time and the car itself basically seems possessed by the devil. Im so distraught atm after over a month of trying to fix this that im about too break out and cry like a little frikkin girl...Im just trying too find out how i can punish the car...and that itself (wanting to punish an OBJECT) should say something

OutCold 09-25-11 08:24 AM

After a weeks break ive gotten back to it and i think i found a few "broken" wires in the 7 plug switch, what i dont get is that this 7 plug connector cannot be found in the manual :S its drawn as a 12 space switch there. Anyone have a corrected diagram or just know and can identify them all?

satch 09-25-11 12:54 PM

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1...hazards.th.png

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OutCold 09-25-11 03:38 PM

Which manual is that? :O Mine looks like this -> http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ld_2006/ex.jpg

OutCold 09-25-11 05:18 PM

And from what i can see on your diagram the wires at B/L and G/R and B/Y are defective

satch 09-25-11 05:23 PM

http://foxed.ca/rx7manual/manuals/S5wiring.pdf

satch 09-25-11 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by OutCold (Post 10800393)
And from what i can see on your diagram the wires at B/L and G/R and B/Y are defective

And what does "defective" mean? And do you mean G/Y rather than "B/Y."

OutCold 09-26-11 01:26 PM

Well urm...the beepie(<-LOL) thingy on my multimeter doesnt go off when i measure those and what i THINK is the ground, i found the manual via ur pics webadress and im gonna have a read over today and tomorrow and ill be up to speed on whats what :)

satch 09-26-11 02:06 PM

Your're getting the beeping sound because you're likely measuring volts in milliamps as opposed to volts. When measuring for volts there is no beeping sound to be heard. You need to take the manufacturer and model number of your multimeters and do a search on each to show you which setting you need. Out of the two you have you should be able to get one dialed into the proper setting. DC mA is for measuring milliamps as the "A" stands for amps and not volts.

OutCold 09-26-11 05:43 PM

Nono that was a resistance measure i did with the beeping. i thought maybe it should beap on all wires if they didnt have a broken curcuit...daargh im a elec-noob for real sorry haha . Will measure voltage also thou, had too work on some other small issues with the wiring and will get at the blinkers tomorrow :)

satch 09-26-11 05:55 PM

When you do a continuity test you place one meter lead on one end of the wire and the other meter lead on the other end and if it beeps if the wire is continous or unbroken but this test has its limits.

The B/L wire should have constant voltage, no key necessary, but in your pic of the 7 wire plug it appears you do not have this specific color wire and it looks like you have a Red wire in its place.

Secondly, the Green/Red wire should have voltage w/key to on and the turn signal lever set to left hand turn. The Green/Yellow wire should have voltage w/key to on and the lever set to right hand turn.

OutCold 09-27-11 05:54 PM

Pulled a new wire on the red/Battery cable and out to the battery Baddabing baddabom its fixed :D Thank you so much for your help buddy, im glad it took as long as it did too solve the issue because i basically learned the ABC`S of this cars electrics :)


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