New Supra 7 is nearing completion!
Well Hear is the new Supra 7!!
Heres some of the specs on the motor. 1jzgte 2.5L Twin Turbo (2 x CT12A) Raised Compression Electromotive Tec3 That motor is a 1JZGTE and came in a couple cars, it came in the 91 -93 supras (JZA70) in Japan and Soarers(sc300) and Chasers(sedan). This one came out of a 95 Soarer and has the front sump oil pan(which actually ended up being more of a pain in the ass then the rear sump would have been) 2.5 Litre twin turbo(more like hair driers) redlines at 8500 and weighs about 150 LBS more then a rotary, 280 HP with 305 or so torque stock @ 8LBS . It has 3"(kinda) in and 3" out, HKS core #2 FMIC w/ custom Spearco end tanks, Electromotive Tec 3, Custom steering rack mount (manual), Custom sub frame middle section(not full rebuild, comming soon), Custom drive shaft, custom exhaust, custom IC piping, Getreg RS154 5 spd supra tranny w/ custom tranny mounts(6 speed will come with the next phase of the project), 300ZX turbo radiator, no sway bar for now :( + all the shit used to have on the car with my S4 and S5 motors. It is currently running 10LBS and has some traction issues due to the completely lateral and large torque curve that can be overcome with some compensation by the driver. It just needs a bit of TLC to clean it up again and should be ready to rock and roll. It has a turbo seal going out of the rear CT12A which has a ceramic turbine limiting it to 15 LBS before they shatter, which will expedite the single T66 process/Phase. Quoted from Supra7 himself. Anyone who wants to flame, We dont care, there were reasons for this swap. Thanks Jason http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...=&postid=82045 http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...=&postid=82047 http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...=&postid=82662 http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...=&postid=82663 http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/attach...=&postid=82664 Videos/Dynos coming soon!!!! |
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You really think thats the best place for the filter??
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Re: New Supra 7 is nearing completion!
Originally posted by Rx_treme Anyone who wants to flame, We dont care, there were reasons for this swap. Thanks Jason Actually, I personally think that is pretty cool...Different, but cool. Jarrett You gotta get some VIds up of it running..etc |
damn, its lost its soul. but gained a new DOPE soul
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Sup, im not Supra7 on this board, but, there yallz go. It looks a bit rough in the pics, its because my fan was giving me some problems, so I had to regulate on it, which required taking off the shrouds and cutting some looms and new wires, ect. Ill clean it back up agian and take a nicer pic....its only been drivin for a week now, give me some time! BTW, I had the idea before the yellow one came out, so I didnt intend to be a copy cat, but after all, the first supra7 was done in flordia in 1994 with a 2JZGTE and a black second gen....its so hard to be origional these days! But mine is a bit different, and all of the work was preformed by me on a much lesser budget. So, with those things considered, it came out OK!
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The intake temps are only at 30 degrees celcius, and no, its not, but by the time it gets warm enough to worry about it, ill have one big single on there and the filter else where.....and mostly, i ran outa 3" mandrell bends to complete that part of it :)
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Re: Re: New Supra 7 is nearing completion!
Originally posted by J-Rat WHos gonna flame?....:eek: Actually, I personally think that is pretty cool...Different, but cool. Jarrett You gotta get some VIds up of it running..etc anyway. The filter isnt stayin there he ran out of pipe to make the TID.. |
i think its different but really cool, cant wait till those vids come out.
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that radiator looks a little small...kinda like the stock ones size. can it cool that beast?
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i think it would be cooler if you ran it off two filters...like a 13brew
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^ as in running them with two seperate custom pipes making the filters more toward the front getting more air.
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its not worth the time or effort, thats just a temporary, its going to be twin T66 or a single T78 im thinking, and its going to come fast. The intake temps are nice and cool and it doesnt have a restriction problem, those turbos are TINY. The radiator is still unknown, but I will have to go bigger im about 400% sure.
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Cool, just got here and already seeing something like home. The 1j is a great engine. I have tons of experience with the 7m and some with the 1J. My question to you is not by any means why. I have to ask about front suspension. How will the extra weight up front affect handeling and such. I do not know the weight distribution on the 7 yet but am thinking that may throw it off. What about springs and shocks? are you upgrading them? Good luck with it.
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:drool:
I think that's a fantastic piece of work. You get the benefit of the RX-7 styling, and the durability of a good ol' bullet-proof Toyota engine :) but then again, you do miss out on the fun and excitement of playing 'Why doesn't my rotary engine start?' :rolleyes: :D |
Interesting swap. This is one of the few piston engine swaps I would like. This still keeps the RX-7 classy, it doesnt degrade it like a pushrod cast-iron-powered country-bumkin V8-mobile.
Have you thought about relocating that air filter so it doesn't suck the heat straight off of those turbos? |
I think it's a pretty cool swap. Good choice of motor. Will be really Interesting to see how it performs.
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Sweeeeeeeet...
Nice to see people recognizing Toyota is where the power's at ;) <-- Wishes he could afford a 1JZ swap himself. |
feel free to come over to my place and slap one of those in my vert, i'll give you my 82 supra
-Shawn |
Coool shite, guys. I love the toyota engine however I have but one question......I lost my 626 this weekend, not that I can't find the POS but some dumb bitch broadsided me and pretty much totaled the car. I have always loved the chaser model that Toyota remains in Japan. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a site that imported the cars or perhaps could point me to a place where I could purchase one......hmmmmmm drifting a 300+ hp boat of a car....always fun :) anyway thanks for any help guys.
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Gefunk: unless it has been US legalized (which it has not) you can't even import one unless you can prove it's for racing purposes only.
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Well, at least it's not a V8...
Nice job, though, looks like a very clean (for the most part) installation. On a realted note, does anyone know if there has been a 4g63 swap? Ren |
cool, pretty original swap.
I am also wondering about the weight distribution. let us know if you get a chance to corner weigh it. theres still some respect for RX7's also with 4 of em in front of that house:) |
Thats a stock RX-7 BOV by the way heh. the rotary only weighs about 150 LBS less engine and tranny because the rex tranny weighs less then the supra and the motor is a 156 LBS heavier. The car started out life as an SCCA car. I have enough stereo in the back to off set most of that and keep it close to its 50/50 and into traction. Custom spring rate Teins are phase 2 with the new tube sub frame and the 6 speed. With the torque that thing has it has a hard time not stepping out, so ill have to learn how to drift to be super successful with cornering it now.....playing chase with a 425 RWHP second gen (RX_Treme) last night and hung alright in the corners.....its not what it used to be, but alright.......until he would remind me that he is still faster than me and open up the ole external wastegate! The Gab super R's and a custom rate eibach set of springs handels it alright for now though, and no, that filter location sucks, but its going to change quickly.
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Ohh, there are 5 7's there, one in the garage!
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How did it go in? Firewall clearance? mounting? That beyotch is gonna be fast, what 1/4 times are you expecting?
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Also, are you going to wire it to the mazda electronics, as far as keeping the stock gauges. How much does that engine weigh, and what are your plans to beef up that front suspension?
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Is the stock RX-7 radiator really cooling that beast down?
We want some vids man. Nice conversion and way to be different in the quest for real power. -GNX7 |
I wouldn't be suprised if the stock RX-7 radiator is bigger than the stock Toyota radiator that engine used to be cooled by.
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Its a 300 ZX radiator, no fire wall issues, and 12's would be nice!
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Re: New Supra 7 is nearing completion!
Originally posted by Rx_treme 300ZX turbo radiator 300zx TT Radiator, its skinnier than the rx7 stockie because depth was an issue. |
Whats the higherst output toyota supra engine ever?? I thought it was an inline 4.
Not to be dumb but whats the engine in the movie "Rice and Rediculous" supposed to be?? You know, this aint no junk yard. pop the hood. No shit a JZ engine. |
Originally posted by Gefunk I have always loved the chaser model that Toyota remains in Japan. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a site that imported the cars or perhaps could point me to a place where I could purchase one......hmmmmmm drifting a 300+ hp boat of a car....always fun :) anyway thanks for any help guys. |
Originally posted by Gene Wasn't it sold in the US at the lexus SC series? Or was that the Soarer? |
twin T-66's? seems a bit overkill to me and hellafied lag, a T-66 won't be spooling too fast on only 3 cylinders. I would just go with the T-78, or even something a bit more conservative like a T-61. unless of course you go with the ball-bearing T-78, then well, i would go with that.
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Originally posted by SaabGuy Whats the higherst output toyota supra engine ever?? I thought it was an inline 4. Not to be dumb but whats the engine in the movie "Rice and Rediculous" supposed to be?? You know, this aint no junk yard. pop the hood. No shit a JZ engine. |
Nice swap, but I personally dont see the point. Why not just build up the Supra?? Putting that motor in an RX-7 probably makes it close to the Supras weight that motor came out of. So with the swap you have a car thats as fast as a Supra with alittle weight reduction? I dont get it. Please explain it to me.
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say hello to some high intake temps my friend. I really do like the idea though, those are cool engines. not as cool as a 13bt, but still cool. btw, nice racing stripes. oh, and is that stock rx7 BOV routed down through a pipe so you can hear it better outside the car? wowsers. if i was doing any engine swap, i'd make everything look as nice and clean as possible. ps, i think that twin setup is way to complicated for the little engine bay and weird intake setup that you have to use with it in that little engine bay... |
someone needs to do that engine swap with an FB.
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It still will not weigh anything close to what a MK3 supra weighs. A factory Mk3 turbo is around 3600 lbs. maybe more. PIG heavy cars. Here is a supra motor break down.
I will start when my knoledge does. IN 1986.5-92 models you got a 7M-ge (na~200 hp) engine. In the 87 -92 you could get the 7M-GTE motor (single turbo ~230 Hp) Both of those were 3.0 litre Inline 6's. There are some guys pushing over 700 RWHP through those motor's. Out of the US you could get 2 other engine options in that same generastion. A Crappy 1G series that was a 2 litre inline 6 (twin turbo or NA) but it was rated with little power and really sucked. Or you could get the infamous 1JZ-GE or 1JZ-GTE. The difference once again being turbo or NA. Both had 2.5 litre displacement but the turbo model was twin again. Unfortunately this set up was not an option in the US. The 93.5-98 Supra offered the 2JZ-GE and the envied 2JZ-GTE. Back to 3.0 litre and Twins on the GTE. The 1jz and 2jz are VERRY similar engines. Both are capable of some crazy power. |
looks bad ass
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man i'd be gettin an intake filter that is a little slimmer, and it stick it onto of that valve cover inside the hood scoop.
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Ok, I understand the filter location sucks, like i have said 4 times now in this post that its not going to be there for long, the engine weighs 150 LBS more then a rotary. Supras weigh at 3800 at the track and my rx weighs 2800 at the track...?!?! how does it weigh barely less then a supra. It is not going to the out side or down it goes under my TEC3 coils which was the best place to suspend it, and if you would have read the post, I explain why it is looking a bit rough. is that an insult about my stripes?
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You should run 12's NO problem with that setup. That engine puts out 280 hp stock and twin t66s OMG!!
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piston engine........ well at lease is not a f**king V8. look nice man. i want to see it with that T76. :bigthumb:
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Cool swap, although there looks to be height issues, thats the first alternitive engine swap that I have seen that appears to keep the feel of the RX-7 with the high reving and smooth I6 motor.
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yes, it was an insult about the stripes. (but hey, atleast the car will be fast)
everything else rocks. especially the concept, its a badass engine and its going to be a fast car. but what i was suggesting (about the air filter) is cant your just rotate the filter? so that it is sitting inside that hood scoop? |
Originally posted by fabulas You should run 12's NO problem with that setup. That engine puts out 280 hp stock and twin t66s OMG!! |
Originally posted by Icemark Cool swap, although there looks to be height issues, thats the first alternitive engine swap that I have seen that appears to keep the feel of the RX-7 with the high reving and smooth I6 motor. i've always been a fan of I6 motors. |
Nice swap man. It's nice to see a change from the V8 swap. I know of another Supra 7 that I saw at a battle of the imports in florida. It was yellow and it had a mariah body kit. It was set up for Road Racing, and from what I have heard it is quite competent.
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