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HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 02:12 AM

New style vented headlight cover
 
I'm interested in seeing a headlight cover like the bottom right made for the FC albeit for the passenger side headlight cover. Good size scoop to grab air and would cosmetically coordinate with the stock TII hood scoop.

One of the vendors s willing if I can find a minimum of 4 more firm interested buyers. I'd guess paintable fiberglass would run around $100 shipped.

Interest?

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MMoore4545 07-09-13 09:02 AM

Your photo doesn't load on the page, and when you open it in a new tab it asks you to sign into Live.

Interested to see how different it is.

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 09:30 AM

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clokker 07-09-13 09:35 AM

It's a nice enough looking piece but do they actually do anything?
From my experiments with the intake, bringing in air from atop the headlight looks like the most convoluted/restrictive path to follow.
And what happens when the lights are on?

Not knocking the product, just curious.

Rob XX 7 07-09-13 11:04 AM

dont think anyone will develop and make a mold for 4 buyers

if there was one to copy it would be one thing, but from scratch I dont think so

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 11515753)
dont think anyone will develop and make a mold for 4 buyers

if there was one to copy it would be one thing, but from scratch I dont think so


Rob,

What we're talking about is a hybrid of the one pictured that is made forthe Miata to a headlight lid of an FC. This thread is in reaction to oneof the Forum vendors saying he will make it if he can expect at least 5 initial buyers. So there is no mystery it will get made with the prerequisite.


Clocker,

I've read many threads on the debate of how much air headlight vents bring. But you have to agree any additional air is better. But when the headlight needs to be raised, the effect of lowered air flow would be somewhat offset by the then overall nighttime lower air temperature of what air is still getting to the intake.

I remember seeing somewhere on this forum someone posted a wind tunnel airflow analysis for an FC, but my bit of surfing I didn't find it. Perhaps someone who saved it or knows where it is can post it. But intuitively I would think the top edge of the scoop being toward the front edge of the headlight top panel, this design would catch more air with the headlight raised than any other design I've seen.

schaft 07-09-13 11:26 AM

i may be interested but id have to see a installed pic, maybe photoshoped on

the way i see it any extra air in helps

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 11:50 AM

This might give you an idea of it installed
 
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Bigger mouth to catch cooler air, more cooler air trying to shove its way through the convoluted path to the intake. This is the first design in that theme I've seen that actually looks cosmetically good as well. Especially if you're running a stock or stock like TII hood.

And to show how serious I am wanting to see this happen, we only need three more firm buyers since I'll take two of them.

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MMoore4545 07-09-13 01:03 PM

Even cosmetically. I like it quite a bit.

Are the ducts going to be on the passenger or driver's side?

Miata intakes are on the opposite side as ours are.

Rob XX 7 07-09-13 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by MMoore4545 (Post 11515870)
Even cosmetically. I like it quite a bit.

Are the ducts going to be on the passenger or driver's side?

Miata intakes are on the opposite side as ours are.




Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 11515544)
I'm interested in seeing a headlight cover like the bottom right made for the FC albeit for the passenger side headlight cover. ]


I should have read it more closely as well, I thought you were just trying to get 4 people. At $100 a piece commission all 4 im sure you can sell them once they make it on a car

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 01:58 PM

I'll get no benefit of any of the Benjamin's. In fact, I'll a hole in my wallet as well to get these. But I'm glad the Vendor see's the value, otherwise this would have no chance of happening.

Again, this is a product that was developed for the Miata. Thus why it's on the drivers side in the picture. The end product in this case will be on for FC's passenger side for the obvious reason if it all comes together.

88vertrudy 07-09-13 02:31 PM

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Come on two more people. It will look good along with a t2 hood.

schaft 07-09-13 04:00 PM

that looks pretty good, any clue how long it would take so ill know if i can get the cash ?

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 04:28 PM

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No clue. I'm just trying to show the vendor the benchmark he set of 5 solid sales can be met. But I have to believe it will be measured in months, so plenty of time to save up your nickels and dimes.

A few more pictures I found. The manufacturer for these Miata parts claims they will provide a 5 degree drop in inlet temps in a Miata application. Not earth shattering, but better is better:

schaft 07-09-13 05:21 PM

if it'll be a few months im in ill catch a few side jobs

JustJeff 07-09-13 05:45 PM

Hhmmmm very tempting. Not sure if I like the protuding cover or not. I've got an MS scoop so it would kinda be mismatched, but yet similar.

FelixIsGod29X 07-09-13 06:51 PM

Ahh sh*t count me in #4!

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 06:54 PM

I have a Mariah NACA version headlight scoop lid, which I think is kin to your Mazdaspeed one. The problem is the design of the NACA version doesn't allow for the HID housings for upgrading my headlights to the SakBomb type unit as the back of the housing extends deeper into the bucket. That isn't a problem with this design.

This design would follow what some army of Mazda engineers designed for the TMIC, so to me at least would look more stock like.

LOL Nick.

Updated list per advise from my NY friend. :)

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Rob XX 7 07-09-13 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by schaft (Post 11516123)
if it'll be a few months im in ill catch a few side jobs

Its $100 not $1000

schaft 07-09-13 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 11516228)

Its $100 not $1000

haha i know butbi moved into my first apartment and am just getting the hang of having bills, count me in

JustJeff 07-09-13 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 11516228)
Its $100 not $1000

You underestimate a 2nd Gen owner's ability to be cheap...

JustJeff 07-09-13 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 11516212)
I have a Mariah NACA version headlight scoop lid, which I think is kin to your Mazdaspeed one. The problem is the design of the NACA version doesn't allow for the HID housings for upgrading my headlights to the SakBomb type unit as the back of the housing extends deeper into the bucket. That isn't a problem with this design.

This design would follow what some army of Mazda engineers designed for the TMIC, so to me at least would look more stock like.

yeah, I've thought about the Mariah cover, also thought about the Attain one. If I decide I don't want this one being considered would you be interested in selling your Mariah?

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 08:08 PM

^ I would if these come available.

So Schaft, you are officially making yourself #5?

That said, even if Schaft makes it 5, keep the indications of interests coming. There is always some level of fall out in these kind of efforts between start and finish. And at some higher quantity the unit cost could come down more when all is done.

CarbonRXX 07-09-13 08:18 PM

Hey,

So yeah I can make those with a minimum of 5 buyers. I already offer the vented cover for FC so I will use a FRP sample and modify the shape of it.

About the time, I think it will take around one month until the first prototype comes out.

Do you mind to pay some small deposit for this? I am thinking 30 USD. I just finished a GB for radiator panels for FD and only half of people that committed actually paid so...

Let me know.

Marc

HOZZMANRX7 07-09-13 08:35 PM

^ Marc, sent you a pm.

schaft 07-09-13 08:43 PM

up im number five and i can throw down the deposit

3vil 07-09-13 11:22 PM

I just want to add that for best results, cutting of the bulkhead behind the headlight will be needed. Also boxing in your afm to block out some engine bay heat wouldn't hurt either. This is not to discourage anyone from considering this part, but more to educate ppl on how to maximize the results from it.

HOZZMANRX7 07-10-13 12:25 AM

^True for any after market cone filter installation.

schaft 07-10-13 01:18 AM

even if the air flow is restricted as long as some air gets in im happy :)

MidnightZed 07-10-13 02:11 AM

I'd be interested if I can get a matching set (left + right)

HOZZMANRX7 07-10-13 12:24 PM

^you want headlight scoops for both headlights?

clokker 07-10-13 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 11516789)
^you want headlight scoops for both headlights?

Upgraded battery cooling.

HOZZMANRX7 07-10-13 12:48 PM

Ahhh, got it.

Rob XX 7 07-10-13 02:21 PM

it will also cool off your relays- they can get really hot when you shift mad quick

iamsisyphus 07-10-13 06:34 PM

I'll take one. Do you take plastic?

HOZZMANRX7 07-10-13 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by iamsisyphus (Post 11517101)
I'll take one. Do you take plastic?


If you're serious, add your name to the list. This coming together, only way I could see plastic is via Paypal. Zed has me thinking hard about going the L & R plan as well.

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pistolgrip 07-10-13 08:44 PM

Any idea what Carbon Fiber versions would go for?

CarbonRXX 07-10-13 09:30 PM

Hey,

We have our 5 buyers so I guess that's a go! HOZZMANRX7 is nice enough to send me 2 headlights covers as models for the moulds so this is perfect!

So about pricing, it will be around the same as the pricings I do currently for Miata covers.

- Fiberglass material: one side vented : 85 USD ; both sides vented : 160 USD

- Carbon fiber material: one side vented : 140 USD ; both sides vented: 265 USD

This is without shipping but shipping will be low. 15 USD for one side, 20 USD for 2 sides.

w.sen 07-10-13 10:05 PM

It almost looks like a z31 hood scoop. Ill start saving also count me in.

HOZZMANRX7 07-10-13 11:31 PM

I love it
 
when a plan comes together.:icon_tup::nod::icon_tup:

Furb 07-11-13 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 11515922)
Again, this is a product that was developed for the Miata. Thus why it's on the drivers side in the picture. The end product in this case will be on for FC's passenger side for the obvious reason if it all comes together.

You should make some for the drivers side aswell, just in case some RHD owners want one too!

turbowash 07-11-13 12:37 AM

Can you do both sides, one vented in CF and just a normal cover in CF so you have matching covers so people don't have to paint them? But not necessarily have two vented covers? It that makes sense...

Lavitzlegend 07-11-13 06:39 AM

Count me in for a passenger side vented cover! I've been looking for a vented headlight cover for a little while now and haven't found any that I liked. This "scoop" type is exactly what I'm looking for! Let me know what I need to do as far as payment.

CarbonRXX 07-11-13 07:05 AM

Basically all options will be available. Passenger side with vent, driver side OEM, passenger side OEM, driver side with vent.

Let me get the covers first and start the GB then!

MMoore4545 07-11-13 08:57 AM

+1 add me to the list, pm me when the group buy opens.

iamsisyphus 07-11-13 09:31 AM

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CarbonRXX 07-11-13 09:37 AM

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88vertrudy 07-11-13 06:15 PM

Decided to get an extra one and if the driver side is available i am getting one of those too.

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Lavitzlegend 07-11-13 09:41 PM

Definitely count me in


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HOZZMANRX7 07-12-13 06:16 PM

So in 3 days we go from concept to a dozen units ordered. Yah gotta love capitalism.


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