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FCKing1995 07-18-05 04:04 AM

New Guy with a question
 
WHats up everybody. Im new to the forum and havent owned an rx7 before, but I have been around them a good bit, and will own one very soon. I was just wondering out of experiance, id like some input on what you think about my setup im going with...

Rebuilt engine with street port
1600cc and 1000cc injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
Greddy TD06 20G upgrade kit
Greddy 2 row intercooler
and im still debating on computer/ecu setup, any suggestions? im thinking apexi super afc and avc-r?
and i have a longer list of other smaller stuff, but too much to type out, but does that setup i posted sound ok? im sure it is, just checkin, thanks people

btw... im gonna try and run somewhere in the 12-15psi range, if i can sqeeze a bit more out safely i will do it... what you think?

gingenhagen 07-18-05 04:43 AM

piggyback's not going to cut it. Go standalone.

iceblue 07-18-05 07:37 AM


Rebuilt engine with street port
good

1600cc and 1000cc injectors
over kill. maybe 720, 890

Walbro Fuel Pump
ok

Greddy TD06 20G upgrade kit
ok

Greddy 2 row intercooler
ok

and im still debating on computer/ecu setup, any suggestions? im thinking apexi super afc?
After all this why are we buying a $200 of a exscuse to be a EFI manager? Sorry but it just won't do much good here. Get a standalone and have it tuned properly.

avc-r
good

What are you doing for exhaust?
cooling upgrades?

FCKing1995 07-18-05 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by iceblue
good
over kill. maybe 720, 890
ok
ok
ok
After all this why are we buying a $200 of a exscuse to be a EFI manager? Sorry but it just won't do much good here. Get a standalone and have it tuned properly.
good

What are you doing for exhaust?
cooling upgrades?

what would you guys reccomend for stand alone? i figured piggyback wasnt enough, but besides power fc for FD's, im lost on good standalones for fc's... exhaust im going with bonez turboflo system, and an apex gt or greddy power extreme, but can always go with another exhaust system, know of any with a good low tone? and for cooling probably just upgrading to a fluidyne radiator...few other odds and ends... get the basic idea though... and what about 1000cc and 720cc injectors?

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1 07-18-05 04:38 PM

why in the hell do you want to use pig ass injectors.

Power FC will do for the FC IIRC.

FCKing1995 07-18-05 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by IaMtHeRuThLeSs1
why in the hell do you want to use pig ass injectors.

Power FC will do for the FC IIRC.

? well, tell me something i dont know... enlighten me please (not being a smart ass)

iceblue 07-18-05 05:07 PM

Use whatever stand alone your tuner is comfy with. Head on over to the EMS section on search around.
All of the exhausts you listed are ricy buzz toned not deep. Try racing beat.

FCKing1995 07-18-05 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by iceblue
Use whatever stand alone your tuner is comfy with. Head on over to the EMS section on search around.
All of the exhausts you listed are ricy buzz toned not deep. Try racing beat.

racing beat, ill look into it, thanks... and my tuner will mainly be me and a freind on a dyno lol, im a bit familiar with the software used with haltech, so i guess im compfy with it, if not i know a guy who can do it. found a e6k with plug and play harness for $1200 bucks that ill probably go for, i HATE wiring, especially when it involves ripping down the whole harness and whatnot...

FCKing1995 07-18-05 08:06 PM

found a racing beat full exhaust package for $790 so i might just go with that full kit instead of mixing bonez downpipe (3'') with it... plus the racing beat downpipe is 3.15'' so itll help a little more i guess, nice looking exhaust system though, learn something new everyday

X-JaVeN-X 07-18-05 08:09 PM

i'd say go with the haltech...it's a very popular choice for the fc
I also say go with a full turbo back racing beat exhaust...i have it on my tIi and it sounds sweet...and is definitely one of the best for performance as well.

FCKing1995 07-18-05 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by X-JaVeN-X
i'd say go with the haltech...it's a very popular choice for the fc
I also say go with a full turbo back racing beat exhaust...i have it on my tIi and it sounds sweet...and is definitely one of the best for performance as well.

good to hear, i was kinda hoping i could find something quieter than apex, but that was justm y first choice cause they are easy to find... but yea, more than likely ill be going with the full turbo back system from racing beat

gingenhagen 07-18-05 10:22 PM

I thought RB had the quietest exhausts around.

FCKing1995 07-18-05 11:09 PM

a new problem, now need some help on deciding on which turbo to go with, though i guess this is all based on personal preferance... td07-25g or a garret t4 62-1... i decided against a greddy kit cause it just ckicked in my head and i had to kick my ass, greddy kits are expensive when i can get a 62-1 for 699 and a t4 manifold for like 500... why spend 2500 for a kit...

fc_drifter_2003 07-18-05 11:22 PM

Well in the kit you get a little more: twin air intake, lines, wastegate, and downpipe.

http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...r34_t88spl.jpg

iceblue 07-18-05 11:57 PM

RB is the quietest around. But also the most beefy sounding.

Why pay for greddy --- B/c you pay for all the RND and you pay for quality. How would a 500$ turbo with manifold compare to one that costs 1,200???? Betor turbine bettor barings bettor oil bushings and so on on on on.

If you are looking into the 60+trim you can prolly up the secondary injectors to 1000cc or 1300.

RETed 07-19-05 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by fc_drifter_2003
Well in the kit you get a little more: twin air intake, lines, wastegate, and downpipe.

http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...r34_t88spl.jpg

Uh, that kit is not for a 13B...


-Ted

FCKing1995 07-19-05 10:13 AM

well like i said, i can still get the td07-25g turbo, id just be dropping the other included parts, and going with my own choice of parts which would come out cheaper anyway, with just as good or better parts. and i dont see the td07 being superior to 62-1 very much, both really good turbos, though yea, 62-1 only $700 vs. a turbo that costs a little more, but both turbos have good life and can support all the power im gonna throw at it

FCKing1995 07-19-05 10:31 PM

finally made a choice on turbo... im going with a T4 T70 with .96 A/R , getting BNR to build it soon, decided to go a bit larger than originally planned, should get some good power with 12psi or so, hopefully, if all is right

5252 07-19-05 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by iceblue
RB is the quietest around. But also the most beefy sounding.

Why pay for greddy --- B/c you pay for all the RND and you pay for quality. How would a 500$ turbo with manifold compare to one that costs 1,200???? Betor turbine bettor barings bettor oil bushings and so on on on on.

If you are looking into the 60+trim you can prolly up the secondary injectors to 1000cc or 1300.

Paying for quality??? Are you sayin taht Garrett doesnt sell quality turbos? A 62-1 is a fine choice in turbo... Greddy is not above Garrett in any way at all.


Originally Posted by RETed
Uh, that kit is not for a 13B...


-Ted

HAHA looks like its a kit for a MK4 supra lol

iceblue 07-19-05 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by 5252
Paying for quality??? Are you sayin taht Garrett doesnt sell quality turbos? A 62-1 is a fine choice in turbo... Greddy is not above Garrett in any way at all.

Hmm toss unspoken words around much??

Greddy was just a figure of speach of a known quality company. Next time dont ramble.

fcfdfan 07-19-05 11:33 PM

Better put a big share of $$ into brakes, suspension, shocks, struts, and tires or you're gonna go too hot into a corner and kiss all that pricey hardware goodbye.

FCKing1995 07-20-05 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by fcfdfan
Better put a big share of $$ into brakes, suspension, shocks, struts, and tires or you're gonna go too hot into a corner and kiss all that pricey hardware goodbye.

yea, this will be a gradual build... eventually all of that will be looked into, just engine first lol, im gonna be more of a 1/4 mile guy anyway, not much cornering, though i have to every now and then, its an fc lol

FCKing1995 07-20-05 04:18 AM

my setup is finalized, after talking more to bryan from bnr he assured me he would build me a hyrbid turbo that would get me to 325-350rwhp at about 12psi, full boost by 4000rpm, so pretty good on the lag side. he has run the same turbo on one of his personal cars and ive seen the car run, so im really excited about it woot... gonna change some other stuff though, no longer going haltech, he brought up a good point, i dont need that much tuning... so im going rtek chip with an apex afc... 720 primaries and 1000cc secondaries. rest of the setup is about the same. thanks for all the help on this guys, finally found what i want and need

5252 07-20-05 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by iceblue
Hmm toss unspoken words around much??

Greddy was just a figure of speach of a known quality company. Next time dont ramble.

Do I toss around unspoken words??? hmmmmm... No, as a matter of fact I dont. "A known quality company"? Such as, GARRETT? You said "why pay for Greddy?" (which is a very well known and respected company) then you said because "you are paying for quality"... the way you said that would lead sombody into thinking that you are trying to say that Garrett is not as good because you basically compared them seeing as how he was talking about a Garrett turbo...

You said "how would a $500 turbo adn manifold compare to one that cost 1,200?" well, I dont think that anybody said anything about a $500 turbo and manifold... Hmmmm, you must like tossing around unspoken words huh. A Garrett 62-1 that is about $600-700 vs. a Greddy that is 1200... well, for his application, I would go with the Garrett, and even if he was wanting more power, I would still go with Garrett, but I would probably use somthing more along the lines of a GT42... There I go "rambling" again... damn

FCKing95... I would go on and get some 1600cc injectors if you decide to go on and use a haltech... you were sayin that you wanted more like 400-450hp, if you decide to do that again, I would go wit some 1600cc injectors. They are $100 each on www.rx7store.net and they can fit in your rail with light modification.

FCKing1995 07-21-05 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by 5252
Do I toss around unspoken words??? hmmmmm... No, as a matter of fact I dont. "A known quality company"? Such as, GARRETT? You said "why pay for Greddy?" (which is a very well known and respected company) then you said because "you are paying for quality"... the way you said that would lead sombody into thinking that you are trying to say that Garrett is not as good because you basically compared them seeing as how he was talking about a Garrett turbo...

You said "how would a $500 turbo adn manifold compare to one that cost 1,200?" well, I dont think that anybody said anything about a $500 turbo and manifold... Hmmmm, you must like tossing around unspoken words huh. A Garrett 62-1 that is about $600-700 vs. a Greddy that is 1200... well, for his application, I would go with the Garrett, and even if he was wanting more power, I would still go with Garrett, but I would probably use somthing more along the lines of a GT42... There I go "rambling" again... damn

FCKing95... I would go on and get some 1600cc injectors if you decide to go on and use a haltech... you were sayin that you wanted more like 400-450hp, if you decide to do that again, I would go wit some 1600cc injectors. They are $100 each on www.rx7store.net and they can fit in your rail with light modification.

well after the talk with bryan, though he may of just been bullshitting me, about 350+ blah blah, though i know there are alot of people on here with over 350 safely... but yea, i would rather have 400+ and would like to go haltech, though rtek chip and an afc would be much easier for me... i might just go with stage 2 hybrid, 1000cc secondaries, 720cc primary, rtek chip and afc... wont get me as much as going t70 .96 a/r with haltech and 1600cc would, but i keep forgetting i am going for daily driver, so stage 2 hybrid might be best for me now, might up the boost a bit to 18+psi. once this engine goes... might upgrade later


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