na vs. ls integra
 

well some kid at school is calling me out he has an ls integra with and intake and some knock off exhaust with 180,000 miles. my n/a is stock is it worth puttin $50 up on or am i just throwing money away?

If he can drive then you'll probably lose.

It'll be close though.

And threads like this = fail

throwing it away. I lost to an LS integra 5 speed when driving my 90 S5 vert. We put $20 on the race and with my best launch in my stock car(with a K&N drop in) i lost by 2 feet. His car had an intake and upgraded clutch. you will lose unless he sucks at driving.

There are thousands of threads like this. They usually end in " I lost. What can I do to make my car fast?" Just don't race him on public roads.

make it a drift competition pretty sure you can win that 1. :D First person to hold a donut for longer then 5 seconds wins.

well hes not a very good driver as far as i can see. and i wont ask what i can do to get faster i know n/a's are more fro daily driving im in the process of getting a turbo swap now. but i donno i might do it i guess ill let you know.

I whooped my friend in his 97 Integra GSR in my 91 NA Coupe.. Learn to drive. :)

Your car can beat a 2nd gen but a 3rd gen you will lose to. Assuming that both cars are running 100% and both drivers are equal.

/ thread

Go to google, type in 0-60 and select I'm Feeling Lucky. Use the database to find out if your car is faster, truth is both cars are slow as hell and thats why this thread sucks.

It's just an LS with intake....It would be really close probably down to the last few yards

Same here!

Although my 91 had a RB header/pre silencer, HKS 50mm catback, and HKS filter. LS integras were three or four cars behind by third gear; GSR and SI (DOHC 1.6) were tougher to beat.

LS's are DOHC 1.6, same specs as the ZC

I think you will have a good chance. Trying going lower on the money like 20 dollars. Why I got a quote on Ronin is because verts are heavier than a regular rx7. Now a exhaust rarely does nothing to a car especially intake. I looked up what it said and that car makes like 142 hp and 127tq and I think you might have a good chance. You may have more power but he has the better weight on you. So your choice.

Like I said it would be down to the wire. LS's have low end torque but you have a good chance of catching up at the end. You'd have to keep up the revs passed 5 or 6 grand the whole time to catch him

Huh? LS's are 1.8s, hence the "b18b"

oops i stand corrected....but isn't the 1st and 2nd gen Ls 1.6? KNONFS said the Si's were tougher to beat than the 3rd gen LS...if Si's are 1.6 and Ls's 1.8 then how could the Si be harder to beat?

nope, earlier gen had a b18a. still 1.8.

as far as the si: vtec baby. haha.

GSR and si civics have it, LS/RS tegs dont.

no the ls's are b18b non vtecs with long geared tranny's. the si however is a b16a with vtec with a closer range tranny. only the 1st gen teg's came with the 1.6 but that was th d16zc. the ratios and power differences are why the si would be harder to beat.

I raced a 95 eg with a ZC swap in my 86 na and beat him by like 3 feet the cars are even a modded ls would smoke a na. And get 28mpg doing it

Well if his car still has pop up headlights, then yeah, youll win, those did have 1.6's but thats way way back.

gettin second gens had b18a, 3rd had b18b.

i doubt anyone with a first gen integra would actually race people tho....thats just silly.

^^ lol youd be surprised at what people around will try to race with.

i raced my brother in my 1990 intergra ls he was in his 91 seven and i beat him pretty hard.

i had an intake, exhuast and an exedy stage 1 clutch.

he had a shitty exhuast, slipping clutch and non working 5th and 6th ports.

yes you will get beat just because the rx7 is heavier even though you have more hp and torque.

hey OP... why don't you post on n/a only?
the admin's sister has an integra *hint hint* :lol2:

It would be a close race if you're equal drivers. Maybe take off your doors, hood and gut the interior before racing so you can loose some of the weight :lol:

Did anyone even mention the year of the integra?

It'll come down to your launch, most likely.

There goes all of his top end power. And top end power is about all Rx-7's have.

Never raced anybody but I would have to say that the low end for my Seven sucks. I doubt you'll be able to pull on him unless you're shifting at redline.

you'll lose

doesn't matter what hp, is all about the driver, take it to the track or mountain, :)

My old 91 had GReddy PE catback, Bonez Super-flow cat, stock manifold, street ported rebuild from Atkins, cone intake, pretty standard stuff.

On a more important note: I beat him at a track.. which is where ALL of you should be racing.

Street racing is for fags.

SI's as the 1996-2000 ones with the B16A2 , older SIs and their factory engines were a joke :rlaugh:

Exactly :icon_tup:

:rlaugh: :lol:

You beat a FC NA that wasn't working properly :rlaugh:

I miss my NA days :wallbash:
Right, u tell em :lol:

sorry to bust your bubble anyone but the zc only came on jdm civics of the eg/ej chassis

im pretty sure my 91 si hatch with spank most na rx7. sorry to say.

^ only if a monkeys driving

my 90 na fc easily could take gsr integras. all i had was apexi intake, cat back and a rebuild to stock specs, it was a s5 btw. a gsr w/ a few boltons wasnt that quick, but im done with NA

I can see that if:

-It had a DOHC vtec engine
-The FC was stock and in poor running condition

Otherwise, it wasn't even close.

I partially agree with you, GSRs and SI races were a matter of who had more mods on the car. I did lost to a some of them; not to mentioned those hatches with engine swaps.

my daily driver/winter beater is a 96 Integra GS, it has 295 000km ALL STOCK.
and ive beated a lot of more powerful cars (RSX Type S, and other crappy FWD cars). i Have been driving this integra for over 5 years almost every day.

And the N/A will pass it, if you know how to launch and when to shift.
With my S4 N/A which i drove a few months before swapping, i raced a old 91 civic HB with a SiR. and i passed him on the 1/4 by about 2-3 car lenghts.

BTW S4 N/A base model = 1140 KG
96 Integra GS = 1160 kg

so like everyone keep telling you, its all about the driver AND the launch !!

hold on now there are 2 zc motors. the us first gen teggies had the dohc non-vtec one. however there is a sohc vtec zc which was a jdm only motor but is the same as the d16z6 found in the 92-95 ex models.

btw to the op. it will come down to the lanch and driver skill. if i can out run my friends 355 monte carlo with match gearing and a mildly built an tuned motor in my s4 with just a rebuild a teg with what he has should be easy. but take it to a track either way.

LOL. i got my friend's 2000 GSR with custom exhaust and intake with my 90 GTU.. racing beat headers, racing beat cat back, high flow cat, exedy clutch, 8 pound flywheel and mazdaspeed cone air filter. it was close though:icon_tup:

You'll probably beat him.

I raced a LS in my stock pickup truck when I had it for god sakes...and won. He was a crappy driver, but LS's are slow as shit.

--Alex

Stock for stock, NA FCs have better 0-60s than the newest Integras. But FCs are only half a second to 1 second faster, so you better be a good driver and your car better be in tune. Heck, his exhaust might even make it an equal match.

The RSX is even slower than the Integra, btw. Above is for latest "Integra" Integra.

yes thats why posted that info. but really it would not have mattered anyways if it was running prefect. that fc was horribly slow, his 85 gs would have ran circles around it.

There are more than just 2, there are more like 5. There was one in the first gen teg D16A1 which has DOHC, the single cam in the EG, and there was also a DOHC version, there was also one in the CRX(JDM) that was also DOHC, and in the delsol.

The reason I say he'll lose is because my lil G1 TEG(before the b sersies sap and ITBs) would walk a NA FC, and the only thing done to it was ZC cams which is the main difference between the US and the ZC motors. The 2g teg has more power and a better trans but weighs slightly more than a G1.

Back When I Had My N/a I Beat The Shit Out Of A Gsr It Was On The Highway Though But I Think You Have A Very Good Chance I'll Do It
It Well Be Lots Of Fun Hell 50 Dollars Would Be Worth It But That Just Me I Love To Race No Matter What

N/A is good for reliability, I love my GTU, but I feel like I actually have to try and I am getting sick of rice boys wanting to race. I am getting a tii swap this summer (if everything works out). I am looking forward to being able to toy with people and not even trying. You know, pull at half throttle, let them catch up slowly and then take off.

I say try it; maybe for fun instead of cash. but do it!

You'll never know unless you race him! so freakin' race him!

Stupid forum... I'd rather it lowercase EVERY letter than uppercase the first letter of each word. annnoooooyiiiing....