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Rotary_7 08-28-04 10:33 PM

Must you have an LSD to drift?
 
I have a 91 GTU w/ no LSD ...is it possible for me to drift ???
Or should i sell my car and get a GXL??? ( GTUs too hard to find)

capn 08-28-04 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary_7
I have a 91 GTU w/ no LSD ...is it possible for me to drift ???
Or should i sell my car and get a GXL??? ( GTUs too hard to find)


it certainly helps im not going to say you ABSOLUTELY need one but it does help, because when you think about it your drifting around a corner the wheels are spinning the power want to go to the path that has least resistance and in an open diff it will find that way and effectivley loose your drift, but with an LSD it will lock both wheels and keep power going to each and making a good drift

Andrew. 08-28-04 10:37 PM

No, I did it in my s4 sport, much easier at higher speeds to :).

-Andrew

Rotary_7 08-28-04 10:39 PM

is it as smooth though? ....like...will i styll be able to get tha car sideways and back straight without any problems???

sub9lulu 08-28-04 10:40 PM

well its not a must
its good to have

Evil Aviator 08-28-04 11:23 PM

Any 86-92 non-turbo RX-7 LSD is a direct replacement for your stock differential.

capn 08-29-04 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary_7
is it as smooth though? ....like...will i styll be able to get tha car sideways and back straight without any problems???


well it beats spinnin one tire through a turn

xfeastonarsex 08-29-04 12:10 AM

Why dont you weld the diff so both wheel always spin at the same speed, like a hotwheels car? I would think that would get your ass out when you wanted it to.

digitalsolo 08-29-04 12:40 AM

Umm, hotwheels cars don't have welded diffs... they have a little wire with plastic wheels.. :)

Icemark 08-29-04 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Rotary_7
I have a 91 GTU w/ no LSD ...is it possible for me to drift ???
Or should i sell my car and get a GXL??? ( GTUs too hard to find)

#1 no such thing as a 91 GTU. Check out the Standard features and options sticky at the top of the section. In 91 there were only three models, the Coupe, the Convertible and the Turbo.
#2 in GXL models only the 86-88 GXL had a LSD
#3 there is no need to get a LSD to drift... you just need practice.

Rotary_7 08-29-04 02:04 AM

ok....oh sorry..i didnt kno....i thought any s5 was frum 89-91

marcus219 08-29-04 04:20 AM

Just buy the diff from my car (lsd)....swap the diffs.

-marc

ninjaracing13 08-29-04 04:22 AM

I'm going to say you don't need one, but it makes the drift easier, hang out farther, and finish smoother. Without the lsd, you really have to huck the car to get it steep and deep. But it is possible

J-Rat 08-29-04 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by ninjaracing13
steep and deep. But it is possible

Steep and deep, I like that!

WonkoTheSane 08-29-04 04:51 PM

J-Rat - Is that sig new, because it looks like your two RXs are making sweet monkey love, there.....

Parastie 08-29-04 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary_7
ok....oh sorry..i didnt kno....i thought any s5 was frum 89-91

89-91 are S5, but not all S5 are GTU. Did they even make S5 GTU? I think they changed the names around between the S4 and S5 in the states to make it confusing for everyone.

Davidov 08-29-04 05:24 PM


Why dont you weld the diff so both wheel always spin at the same speed, like a hotwheels car? I would think that would get your ass out when you wanted it to.
Bad idea. Welded diffs are for going straight.
You still need some differential action(different wheel speeds) while turning.

Eternal_Gamer 08-29-04 06:36 PM

The LSD is required to perform certain drifts. The 360 power over requires LSD as the Drift King said so in the Drift Bible. LSD is a big and noticeable improvement. I been drifting with my 1991 Mazda Miata 1.6L and it has no LSD, but can slide quite well. I suggest you watch the "Drift Bible" for all your questions in drifting.

capn 08-29-04 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Eternal_Gamer
The LSD is required to perform certain drifts. The 360 power over requires LSD as the Drift King said so in the Drift Bible. LSD is a big and noticeable improvement. I been drifting with my 1991 Mazda Miata 1.6L and it has no LSD, but can slide quite well. I suggest you watch the "Drift Bible" for all your questions in drifting.


hmmm ive been watching this alot too, but you do hear that he says if your lucky you can upgrade diffs, because in japan everthing is better the grass is greener, all the cars have lsd, and look so cool,

Andrew. 08-29-04 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary_7
is it as smooth though? ....like...will i styll be able to get tha car sideways and back straight without any problems???

Yeah you should, In 1st gear sometimes you'll feel it want to grab but once you get used to it you'll get it. Where in cali are you located btw?

-Andrew

Rotary_7 08-29-04 10:41 PM

bay area

J-Rat 08-30-04 03:52 AM

Drifting sucks...

sudseh 08-30-04 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Parastie
89-91 are S5, but not all S5 are GTU. Did they even make S5 GTU? I think they changed the names around between the S4 and S5 in the states to make it confusing for everyone.

the s4GTU became the s5GTUs iirc.


fwiw: when I accidentally drift going around corners without an lsd, the rear end likes to just "grab" and twist me back straight. on my friends s2000(with lsd), if i keep in it, the "grab" is less pronounced and feels a little smoother. (could just be the tires)

zeromage428 08-30-04 09:07 AM

lol, what a sic mind

Pele 08-30-04 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by solomiata Web Site
While the 1990-93 Miata rear had a viscous LSD option, the 1994+ Miata's could have been ordered, based on package, with the superior Torsen type LSD. A poor mans alternative to the Torsen is a clutch type LSD from the '84-88 NA RX-7. They will also bolt into the later 1994+ Miata housing since they are basically the same diff type (the 1989-91 RX-7 LSD will also fit but it is a viscous type, the earlier RX-7's had smaller axle shafts and won't fit). The OEM RX-7 clutch type LSD does have replaceable friction plates and is rebuildable.

http://members.aol.com/solomiata/Drivetrain.html

Miata drivers take RX-7 LSD units, stock for stock, bolt in. Theoretically, the swap works both ways. Find a wrecked Miata. I got a 1999 Miata Torsen diff with 4.30:1 ring and pinion for $310 shipped. :D

Doing the swap on my 1st gen.

Take a look at www.car-part.com and www.mazdarecycling.com .

Enjoy.

EDIT: I don't normally come in here, I just noticed this thread in the Last posted column of the main page of the forum.


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