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J's fc 11-25-08 01:13 PM

Jdm gauge cluster issues
 
I swap out my usdm gauge cluster for a jdm one i also changed my sub harness the that goes to the gauge cluster and now im having issues with my head lights not working. has this ever happend to one of you guys????

87 t-66 11-25-08 02:12 PM

is the headlight harness plugged in? are you using a s5 cluster in a s5 chassis and vice versa?

J's fc 11-25-08 02:15 PM

yeah im using a s5 everything. the head lamp harness is plugged in.

87 t-66 11-25-08 02:20 PM

i meant the wiper harness connected to the switch...not to the headlight.
http://mazdatrix.com/Pictures/switch...htHarness2.jpg

J's fc 11-25-08 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by 87 t-66 (Post 8749559)
i meant the wiper harness connected to the switch...not to the headlight.
http://mazdatrix.com/Pictures/switch...htHarness2.jpg

the wiper switch is also conected man

87 t-66 11-25-08 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8749582)
the wiper switch is also conected man

any burnt pins on the harness or switch?

francogt1 11-25-08 02:44 PM

triple check everything you did, seems like something is just unpluged check ur Fuses also

J's fc 11-25-08 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by 87 t-66 (Post 8749606)
any burnt pins on the harness or switch?

on the headlight switch the a super small burn mark. and i think this headlight switch is of a s4 would that make a diffrence??

87 t-66 11-25-08 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8749783)
i think this headlight switch is of a s4 would that make a diffrence??

probably. but if it was working fine before and all you did was change the cluster then that is really odd. there are troubleshooting procedures in the FSM for non op headlights. might want to give that a shot.

RETed 11-25-08 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8749783)
on the headlight switch the a super small burn mark. and i think this headlight switch is of a s4 would that make a diffrence??

You cannot mix and match headlight switches between the series.


-Ted

J's fc 11-25-08 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8750103)
You cannot mix and match headlight switches between the series.


-Ted

so you are are telling me that i cant use a s4 switch on an s5??

Napsterfreak15 11-25-08 05:34 PM

get an s5 head light switch or rewire it.

my jdm s5 is using an s4 usdm turnsig/brights switch though so not all switches need to be the same.

J's fc 11-25-08 05:37 PM

damn there a bunch of people telling me that i can use that s4 on an s5.

J's fc 11-25-08 05:41 PM

what happens is that when i hook up the headlight switch and the blinker switch. the right signal get stuck and the head lamps dont turn on. I tryed to use the headlamp motor switch and i act like there is no power. wierd shit

RETed 11-25-08 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8750156)
damn there a bunch of people telling me that i can use that s4 on an s5.

They are fuckin' idiots.
(Do you see this Aaron Cake? It's an expletive and not directed to anyone in particular.)
I've tried to do that, and it doesn't work.
If you want to listen to these other idiots, then go right ahead.
My experience tells me it doesn't work.


-Ted

Napsterfreak15 11-25-08 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8750166)
what happens is that when i hook up the headlight switch and the blinker switch. the right signal get stuck and the head lamps dont turn on. I tryed to use the headlamp motor switch and i act like there is no power. wierd shit

Thats not weird i had that exact same problem. I had a british switch and when i plugged it into the s5 jdm harness it did that same thing but somehing was shorting out and the wires got hot too. Then I used the s4 switch that was originally in the car.

someone stole my jdm gauge bezel and switches. (thats why i bought the british one thinking it would work and they did except for the blinker switch.)

I dont think i'm an idiot but all my harnesses in my car are jdm so maybe that makes a difference.

Aaron was my car tampered with or did an s4 switch really work for me?

misterstyx69 11-25-08 08:44 PM

Someone answer This for The OP.Thanks.
 
Something Tells me that you Can't use the s4 switch on an S5 Car,that is with the S5 Harness.It will Create Issues.
What about using the S4 Harness AND S4 switch on the S5 Car?
(sorry to the Original Poster,But this may clear some things up,and give some Additional info).Thanks.STYX.

The Griffin 11-25-08 09:42 PM

I'm curious why it doesn't work? Is it something with the switch that re-pining the connector can't fix? A simple answer will suffice,without being called an idiot :D

'90rps13 11-26-08 01:12 AM

i am with mister, no s4 on a s5.

J's fc 11-26-08 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by RETed (Post 8750265)
They are fuckin' idiots.
(Do you see this Aaron Cake? It's an expletive and not directed to anyone in particular.)
I've tried to do that, and it doesn't work.
If you want to listen to these other idiots, then go right ahead.
My experience tells me it doesn't work.


-Ted

im with you there man. i didnt direct it at none of you guys helping me out it the people that want to sell me an s4 swich saying" it also works for an s5" trying to hustle me. that shit sucks.

J's fc 11-26-08 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by Napsterfreak15 (Post 8750379)
Thats not weird i had that exact same problem. I had a british switch and when i plugged it into the s5 jdm harness it did that same thing but somehing was shorting out and the wires got hot too. Then I used the s4 switch that was originally in the car.

someone stole my jdm gauge bezel and switches. (thats why i bought the british one thinking it would work and they did except for the blinker switch.)

I dont think i'm an idiot but all my harnesses in my car are jdm so maybe that makes a difference.

Aaron was my car tampered with or did an s4 switch really work for me?

im using the a jdm harness for the headlight switch too. so i have to use a usdm harness and a usdm s5 switch?

RETed 11-26-08 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by The Griffin (Post 8750814)
I'm curious why it doesn't work? Is it something with the switch that re-pining the connector can't fix? A simple answer will suffice,without being called an idiot :D

I didn't mess with the switches other than just swapping them out.
I didn't want to waste time researching this other than swapping the cluster themselves.
If you want to look into this, you're welcome to do this, but it's a waste of time for me, since I had multiple switch clusters to work with at the time.


-Ted

Icemark 11-26-08 12:25 PM

To clear up a couple mis-conceptions in this thread:

Ted and '90rps13are incorrect on swapping the headlight switch between series. There is no issue swapping the headlight switch, however the Turn signal switch is not swappable. The turn signal switches wire completely different between series as the headlight switch harness, is also different between series and not interchangeable.

Also, the Right hand drive and Left hand drive switches are wired different, so you couldn't swap that way without re-pinning the harnesses.

So J's fc what exactly are you trying to do and I will tell you what you have to do to get it too work.

And one more time so it is clear, Left hand drive (North American style) Headlight and wiper switches are interchangeable between S4 and S5 models with only minor internal differences that do not effect operation and pin out. However Turn signal (which also controls the High Beam) and Cruise control switches are not interchangeable by series and would require re-wiring if using a S5 turn signal switch with a S4 headlight switch harness (and visa versa).

BTW: I posted up a couple years back what pins needed to be changed to use a S5 turn signal switch in a S4 car/light switch harness.



Originally Posted by J's fc (Post 8749783)
on the headlight switch the a super small burn mark. and i think this headlight switch is of a s4 would that make a diffrence??

Yes, throw it and the harness that it was connected to away. You can not re-use a burnt switch and harness unless you don't care about them burning up further.

J's fc 11-26-08 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 8752205)
To clear up a couple mis-conceptions in this thread:

Ted and '90rps13are incorrect on swapping the headlight switch between series. There is no issue swapping the headlight switch, however the Turn signal switch is not swappable. The turn signal switches wire completely different between series as the headlight switch harness, is also different between series and not interchangeable.

Also, the Right hand drive and Left hand drive switches are wired different, so you couldn't swap that way without re-pinning the harnesses.

So J's fc what exactly are you trying to do and I will tell you what you have to do to get it too work.

And one more time so it is clear, Left hand drive (North American style) Headlight and wiper switches are interchangeable between S4 and S5 models with only minor internal differences that do not effect operation and pin out. However Turn signal (which also controls the High Beam) and Cruise control switches are not interchangeable by series and would require re-wiring if using a S5 turn signal switch with a S4 headlight switch harness (and visa versa).

BTW: I posted up a couple years back what pins needed to be changed to use a S5 turn signal switch in a S4 car/light switch harness.



Yes, throw it and the harness that it was connected to away. You can not re-use a burnt switch and harness unless you don't care about them burning up further.

thanks i get the s5 usdm harness and switch. Thanks guys!!


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