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Saikou 03-11-08 11:18 AM

I never thought about this before
 
Why is it called a turbo II?

i know it's a stupid question but i was thinking today and all i could come up with is a turbo "I" would be a cosmo or something

Icemark 03-11-08 11:34 AM

In Japan the FB was available as a Turbo model (similar to our GSL-SE, but with a 12AT in it, instead of a 13BREI).

The FC turbo is just the 2nd Turbo RX-7.

BLK FC3S 03-11-08 11:58 AM

Better question, why is the 3rd gen not called a t3?

lastphaseofthis 03-11-08 12:02 PM

cause it does not require or have a broadband connection. :lol:

actually, iirc, s5's dropped the turbo II, and just had turbo.

RotaryWeaponSE7EN 03-11-08 12:03 PM

fb,fc,fd thats all that matters

Chris Boots 03-11-08 12:22 PM

2nd gen's had a twin scroll turbo setup. they call it TII/T2 because of the twin scroll. The S5's dropped that and went to just "turbo" because they got rid of the twin scroll setup and went to a straight manifold to turbo setup instead. S4= TII S5= Turbo

Saikou 03-11-08 12:56 PM

interesting

Icemark 03-11-08 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by lastphaseofthis (Post 7965296)
cause it does not require or have a broadband connection. :lol:

actually, iirc, s5's dropped the turbo II, and just had turbo.

No, only the 91 dropped the II. The 89 and 90 Turbo were still called the Turbo II and had the TurboII sticker on each front fender.


Originally Posted by Chris Boots (Post 7965392)
2nd gen's had a twin scroll turbo setup. they call it TII/T2 because of the twin scroll. The S5's dropped that and went to just "turbo" because they got rid of the twin scroll setup and went to a straight manifold to turbo setup instead. S4= TII S5= Turbo

My above reply pretty much rules that made up answer out. Besides Chris Boots being wrong on the twin scroll (the 89-92 Turbo had what Mazda called the "Completely Independent Twin Scroll")... hmm still a twin scroll Turbo. BTW, the 87-88 turbo was the twin chamber scroll single turbocharger.

Oh look... from the 89 Brochure... note the TurboII on the passengers front fender.

http://www.mazdamark.com/89bro26.jpg




Come on guys stop making stuff up!

rx7fan1903 03-11-08 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 7965180)
In Japan the FB was available as a Turbo model (similar to our GSL-SE, but with a 12AT in it, instead of a 13BREI).

The FC turbo is just the 2nd Turbo RX-7.

Whoa, I didn't know that...

shottaboymaze 03-11-08 01:29 PM

tought me somethin, good question with good answers,

RETed 03-11-08 01:53 PM

OH
MY
GOD
People needs to be banned for making shit up...

Why would you want to call an FD an "FD turbo"???
They are all turbo'd!
A non-turbo FD was never made by Mazda, so calling it an FD turbo is redundant.

In fact, the "Turbo II" was never released in Japan, cause all of their FC's were turbo'd.
Kinda stupid to call it a "Turbo" when ALL of the FC's in Japan were turbo'd.


-Ted

initial D is REAL! 03-11-08 02:18 PM

ROFL, this is good. I gotta theory too.

Turbo 2's only came with 2 seats, hence t2, each passenger gets pushed back into his seat because of the brute torque when the twin scroll t2 turbocharger spools

willub and company 03-11-08 02:27 PM

so there was no such thing as a j-spec NA?

NjJay 03-11-08 02:34 PM

the n/a version wasnt available as a japanese model but was available as an imported vehicle

iSP33D-for-J3SUS 03-11-08 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by initial D is REAL! (Post 7965798)
ROFL, this is good. I gotta theory too.

Turbo 2's only came with 2 seats, hence t2, each passenger gets pushed back into his seat because of the brute torque when the twin scroll t2 turbocharger spools

"brute torque"

:lol:

What RX7 are you driving????

Cheers,
Cody

MmSadda 03-11-08 04:06 PM

Because it was the second turbocharged rotary. The first was in a Japan-only version of the FB, and I think it was based on the 12A...

MmSadda 03-11-08 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Boots (Post 7965392)
2nd gen's had a twin scroll turbo setup. they call it TII/T2 because of the twin scroll. The S5's dropped that and went to just "turbo" because they got rid of the twin scroll setup and went to a straight manifold to turbo setup instead. S4= TII S5= Turbo


.....wat? :Wconfused

You're wrong. on multiple points, actually.

MmSadda 03-11-08 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by initial D is REAL! (Post 7965798)
ROFL, this is good. I gotta theory too.

Turbo 2's only came with 2 seats, hence t2, each passenger gets pushed back into his seat because of the brute torque when the twin scroll t2 turbocharger spools

:rofl: this thread delivers teh funnay.

MmSadda 03-11-08 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by iSP33D-for-J3SUS (Post 7965863)
"brute torque"

:lol:

What RX7 are you driving????

Cheers,
Cody

one that he forgot to mention he swapped an LS9 into :hahaha:

Icemark 03-11-08 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by phoenix7 (Post 7966237)
Making stuff up if a far worse offense than bitching people out. You gonna remove that post ICE?

No, but I am handing out warnings.

Icemark 03-11-08 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by phoenix7 (Post 7966496)
uhoh

all part of the new cruelty...

1st a warning
2nd a ban for a week
3rd ban forever

Roen 03-11-08 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by francogt1 (Post 7966523)
2 rotors? =]

I'm hoping that's sarcasm, otherwise, you need to learn how to read the posts above you.

Regardless, posting for the sake of increasing your post count is frowned upon and your posts can be removed.

Brismo7 03-11-08 05:44 PM

T2= Twin scroll, Two rotors, Two wheel drive, Two exhaust Tips.


END OF STORY.

Wankle told me himself. Its written in the FSM. Look it up if you dont believe me.

Chris Boots 03-12-08 12:03 PM

damn I always thought it was because of the turbo that made the TII sticker. I stand totally corrected. So, everyone that's wrong on this forum are going to get infractions because they think they are right about something only to find that they are wrong...? Sounds to me like we're gunna see a lot of banned members because they made the mistake of putting in their 2 cents

lax-rotor 03-12-08 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Boots (Post 7969423)
damn I always thought it was because of the turbo that made the TII sticker. I stand totally corrected. So, everyone that's wrong on this forum are going to get infractions because they think they are right about something only to find that they are wrong...? Sounds to me like we're gunna see a lot of banned members because they made the mistake of putting in their 2 cents

No, they will be warned and penelized for posting incorrect information with no regard to facts, aka: made up BS. It's not just you, it's a problem that's been slowly spiraling out of control for awhile now. but back on topic:

T2 because it was a better terminator movie. (The real answer has already been said).

luckyfd 03-12-08 12:59 PM

its booked in every mazda history the turbo 2 is the second turbo rx7 after the 12a turbo and in japan all rx7's were turbo and with either blue, gray or bronze tinted windows as a standard feature in japan and oh no mechanical seat belts :P

so heres another fact in japan theres no such thing as turbo fd or turbo 2 fc or turbo fb because their all turbo and went by savannah except for the fd

later the fc came with different features like here for example except the fact that the everything is turbo in japan the base model here would be either the gt-r s4 mainly or gt-x for s5's (correct me if im wrong people im trying to remember since i cant find the book)

then the fully loaded model alike here called the gxl or turbo 2 (NOTE: gxl is all the same features as the t2 except the t2 drive train and engine, momo steering wheel and rims) over there would be the infini but would have alot more feature then what we can ever imagine LIKE,

bigger exhaust system, bucket seats, thicker sway bar in the front and rear, front upper strut bar, passenger foot bar, driver and passenger knee pad stiffer suspension all and everything by mazdaspeed japan

oh and because of the department of transportation aka dot Mazda's and any car in the us tend to be much heavier because of more chassie renforcements all around the cars

also if you haven't noticed before many of the race or upgraded cars would have the factory welds and chassis bars redone in the car at certain areas or points to provide much greater stiffness

so yea theres a massive BOOK im your local barns and noble of the history and differences of rx7's there and here all for 60 bucks (thats what i paid) so if im wrong about anything here scan link and send some sort of prof and ill do the same if no one believes me

Brismo7 03-12-08 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by ( ^ ) <-_-> ( ^ ) (Post 7969630)
also if you haven't noticed before many of the race or upgraded cars would have the factory welds and chassis bars redone in the car at certain areas or points to provide much greater stiffness

I believe your talking about seem welding.

it has its pro's and con's

greater stiffening yes, but if you wreck it, better chance of bending the frame.

for a track car, i say go for it, but in a street car, the extra stiffness isnt really used, and the greater potential to ruin the chasis isnt worth the extra effort(to me).

Icemark 03-12-08 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by ( ^ ) <-_-> ( ^ )
later the fc came with different features like here for example except the fact that the everything is turbo in japan the base model here would be either the gt-r s4 mainly or gt-x for s5's (correct me if im wrong people im trying to remember since i cant find the book)

No, the base model was the GT which was simular to our Sport/GTU models except with a Turbo drivetrain (engine, tranny, rear end, etc).

Jspec models included the:

GT
GT-R
GT-X
GT Limited
GT Limited Special Edition
Cabriolet
Infini

Brismo7 03-12-08 04:21 PM

Thats the moderation i'm talking about. Thanks for making me feel at home, here at the club icemark...

Brismo7 03-12-08 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Icemark (Post 7969737)
No, the base model was the GT which was simular to our Sport/GTU models except with a Turbo drivetrain (engine, tranny, rear end, etc).

Jspec models included the:

GT
GT-R
GT-X
GT Limited
GT Limited Special Edition
Cabriolet
Infini

Sorry if its a dumb question, but do you know what the Jspec equivilent to the USDM GXL would be?
wait, i think someone said the Infini model correct?

TehMonkay 03-12-08 04:27 PM

No, it's either GT-X or GT Limited, Infini was a lightweight model, GXL is definately not that.


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