How do you chirp tires between shifts?
 

Ok, I just got my ass handed to me by a Prelude (I wasn't expecting to beat it since I'm stock and those things pull some HP, but I thought I'd just try out my racing skills.) I noticed that he chirped his tires between shifts.

How did he do that?

Also, can someone give me a rundown on how to shift in a race situation?

Like do you press the clutch all the way down, or just to friction point. While the clutch is depressed, do you close the throttle?

Sorry for being naive, but I don't have any friends that drive manuals to show me.

If you'de just give a few tips you've learned, that'd be awesome.

Thanks in advance,
Nima

If you clutch is good and engine running well you will chirp tires if you even come close to the max on the tourque curve. What you want to do is essentially shift at redline with a stock or near stock car. You can shift past but your power will likely drop off even before redline. It is advantagous to shift a little before redline in higher gears, but you just need to get used to what you feel is fastest. I usually let off throttle between gears to be easy on the synchros in the tranny but if you feel so inclined you can keep on full throttle, but i dont think it makes much difference.

Chris:cool:

Keep 'er above 5K, press the clutch 'till you can shift, shift while letting up on throttle, mash the gas as you let out the clutch. There's some great driving tips at http://www.turnfast.com and http://www.drivingtechniques.co.uk

try stomping on the throttle right before you pop the clutch into 2nd, like spinning the tires into first, but your already moving.

I push the clutch to the floor, just do it very quickly, and pop it out (no feathering) while the rpm's are still up. this should at least give you a "jump" into gear.

Just try and shift as fast as you can, but make sure it's in gear before you let the clutch out.

make a quick shift.
when u are into the next gear just take your foot off the clutch like you are popping the clutch for alunch.

while you are "popling the clutch" in the next gear, floor the gas

Preludes(and most FWD Hondas and other imports) can chirp second ez.. because theyre Front wheel drive and they dont have that good traction like we do.. and also if it was a vtec prelude... then of course he has 195-200 hp...a close ratio tranny(that allows him to stay in his powerband) and chirp 2nd and maybe 3rd... just a thought.. its that front wheel drive shit

We can do it to:) But you must!!!

Shift Mad Quick yo:)

Not sure who coined that but it is funny

James

You dont have to shift quick. Get rolling to 10mph, hold in the clutch. Rev to 8000rpm and drop it. Youll chirp :D

Btw, this is really hard on your tires/driveline/engine. So if you dont want to chance on breaking stuff, dont do it.

Step 1. make car faster than Prelude.

Step 2. shift gears in high revs.

i have a T2 and i can spin all the way through second. maybe your clutch is slipping bro, i'd imagine that any rx7 can chirp the tires. my friend has a 1st gen and he can do it easily as well.

my car does not let me shift above 8k, I do it by accident sometimes, prolly a safety feature so you dont blow the tranny

Actually, its a fuel cut so you don't run your rotor tips into the housings.

dont think its fuel cut. If it simply wont let me put it in gear, it has to do with the tranny. i have experienced fuel cut before and its more of a stumble. the shifting at 7-8k is more something mechanical.

What do you mean, put it into gear? as in shift from say 2nd to first at 8000? or shift into second from third, as an example?

I think I feathered my shift a bit...that would be the problem I suppose. So you just pop it out while mashing the gas. Sounds easy enough...once I get my full straight pipes on I'm sure I'll do better.

Nima

yeah, in other words: dont be nice to the transmission. romp the gas pedal, push in the clutch and keep a high rpm while you shift.

you need to go fast not worry about making little noises, worry about not breaking your car

Re: How do you chirp tires between shifts?
 

own a car with lots of horsepower

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*cough*I can chirp 2nd gear in my g/f's mom's Subaru Justy*cough*

do you think he beat you becuase his chirps added 20 more hp?

I used to be able to chirp 2nd at like 3.8k.
but then again my clutch was brand new and i was pushing 17psi.
good old days.

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lol...I can chirp 275/40 Nitto 555r's in 2nd AND 3rd gear...

Powershifting=bad

Last time I did that, I completely stripped the input shaft to the tranny, and when all was said and done I was out $1200 to replace it. It happened on my birthday, of course.

2 ways:

dont take your foot off the gas. period. leave it on, hit the clutch, grab the gear, let go of the clutch, all this being done in under a quarter second.

OR

throw in the clutch while you let off the gas, grab the gear, let go of the clutch as you punch the throttle, again, under a quarter second, you have to be FAST...

like the phrase

shift mad quick. lol

but, i dont reccomend either of them unless you have some $ because you CAN break stuff, and its usually a matter of time before you do.

Exactly what I did when my tranny went BOOM

6 Puck Baby 6 Puck...Get a good racing clutch and Chirp under power all the time...

Like it was said earlier... the Prelude is front wheel drive, ie. during acceleration the weight is in essence pushed back, therefore off the front wheels. During the shift the front traction is lighter due to the weight transfer and it's quite easy to chirp them even with a slow shift. My stock '89 n/a will chrip between 1st and 2nd sometimes. So it is possible. You don't want the chirp anyway, that just means you're not getting all the power transfered to the ground. Ie. the Prelude will serve you brake lights sooner.

"prolly a safety feature so you dont blow the tranny"

actually shifting that high into your rev is difficult cause there isnt enough space in the tranny. the gears in there a lil close together, thats why shifting at high rpms and powershifting is a lil difficult.

theres a guy in town here does trannys and hes stretched out a 7 tranny a bit so theres more space and now powershifting is pretty easy at high revs like 8k.

i woulda set my turbo tranny up like that but i couldnt afford the money.

id say: mAD qWIcK ShIfTiNg Y0! i can catch 2nd pretty hard in my TII and ive yet to try it w/ the new uncracked hoses and gaskets (yay!)

I coulda sworn chirp=good, spin=bad. b/c a chirp is an indicator that you are shifting w/ the rpms droping to a point lower than redline but still maintaining alot of the torque. I really dont thing the chirp looses THAT much power. someone correct me if im wrong

am i missing something here? i have an 88 AE and my redline is 7K rpm. i hit redline a couple times and i started to hear a beeping noise. so what's all this about shifting ~8000 RPM!?!? sorry if i sound ignorant but i've only had the car a few days.

-jet-

Then my car=bad. :D

My rear end steps out to the side shifting into 2nd and 3rd it spins so much. sometimes if im cruising in first and punch it at 4k, just as the boost spools up...it will spin then too.

my 2Cents
 

Chirping sucks.

Chirp = slower than without chirp.

Having to damage parts in your car to chirp isn't cool.

What you need is a 500-600 HP 3 rotor tri turbo and then you can "chirp" just by pressing the gas in all the way.

:D

All TII's and S4(86-88) n/a's have a 7k rpm redline, but the S5(89-91) n/a has an 8k rpm redline(lighter rotors and such)

i can chirp 2nd and 3rd at like 6500 rpms if i really want to with low compression too baby :D i dunno i just like the sound of chrips tho its kinda cool i know it sounds riceboish but oh well i like the rrrrrRRRRRRMMM..PSSSSHHH..EERRRP.. RRRRR sounds :) i even got 16x9's in the back too :D i cant wait till i get this motor rebuilt!

Quick shifts is what you need!! If ur racing don't be a baby and worry bout things breaking cuz u've already committed to racing so u might as well try to smoke his ass and worry bout things being broken later. Breaking things also means you have to fix things and have an excuess to upgrade and add performance parts to your car.

the easiest way to chirp your tires is to get an upgraded perfromance clutch i have an ACT stage 2 and it pulls the tires you can feel them turn when i shift cause it bounces for a second when im shifting into second and third is when i chirp