I had to stop reading this thred , cus it's wayyyyyyy to fucked up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just told someone too kiil them self????????????????? I couldn't give 1/2 a shit who this guy is BUT, to tell him to kill himself is shit. Unless he did the same too your family or frend (KILL THEM) then people like you should get the fuck out of this club. I dont't care how many post you have , what you drive or don't drive, look or smell like, who your friends with or not. Sorry for that type of shit means crap. Your a little punk and please nuke this thread. Mtnracer shut up get out of this club and grow up!!!

PS. get a TII.

Paul



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okey dokey, anyways contuining with the conversation, what makes gtu's better hendeling than TII's??/ i have never drove a gtu so i have noo idea

A GTUs (not a GTU, which is a base model from 89-90) is roughly 2-300lb lighter than a stock t2 with the same suspension and better steering(unless some 89-91 t2's had vsps like scott said).

VSPS?

I've owned a few FC's, a GXL, TurboII, Convertible, and driven a GTUs extensively (last few weeks)

They all have the same steering feel to me, but I've never tried one without power steering. (All kouki models) The GTUs does feel a lot lighter of course.

There is a big difference between weight on paper, and real life. Mike's 20B T2 is 2,800lbs. My 89 T2 with no a/c, no ps, but fully loaded (18in rims, full interior, insulation, stock seats, spare tire with a full tank of gas AND me in it was 2650. So all this talk about T2's being much heavier that GTU's is BS. Maybe on paper they are.

VSPS= vehicle speed sensing power steering, in contrast to standard engine speed (rpm) power steering. THe steering in teh GTUs, to me anyway, seems so effortless. You can take a 90* turn with your pinky on the wheel if you wanted. Some people dont like this, they say it doesnt give enough feedback, isnt natural, etc. I LOVE it, as opposed to the heavy steering of a non PS car, or the regular rpm based power steering in most others. I know that all early models either had no PS at all, or rpm PS. I know the GTUs's have VSPS(written on the PS computer under the dash). I do nt know for sure, but I am about to chek on an 89 t2 downstairs, if the s5 t2's had VSPS.