FLAME ON!!!! can i beat an evo????
 

hey i havent been to the dyno yet but im going to run some evos sooner than later.... i have a wideband so i have the car tuned to run no less than 11.8 and no more then 10.6afr. (still tuning for a flat line) i have a bnr stage 3, 750 primaries, 860 secondaries, stock IC, 2.5 exhaust. ( i know my exhaust and IC suck) im running about 12.2 lbs on the street in second gear.. turbos kinda laggy.... i think thats how an evo will take me ..the LAG, i dont see 12lbs in first ever. i hit 11lbs at 6500, the shift point.. the following gears are all decent. stock ports too.... so can i run a stock evo?or will i embarass myself stepping to an evo.. its a fresh rebuild about umm 8k on it

boost curve from a street race type start to third gear. i hope it makes sense

You'll take a stock EVO 8, IMO.

But then again, I've never ridden in your car... Freeway would be the desired race location. Does your car not feel that fast?

Maybe post this in the lounge or 'kills' section?

everyone says my car is fast as hell i say its slow as shit... i did make her break traction at 65-70mph on stock turbo prespooling on bald tires... scared myself the stock turbo saw 17.3lb spike on that night doh.... since i got the bnr seems to be a lil slower.. i have been slowly upping the boost but bryan at bnr said dont go higher than 13 so im not..... so im at 12.9 muhahaha.

lmfao...good luck

does this mean no chance?

you have a chance, if i can beat a 462cui nova with less mods, i'm sure you can compete with an evo....

i can walk an STi from a roll on....

:P

The EVO8 will smoke you from a standing start all the time.


-Ted

You may have a chance once you get into the higher gears. Since an evos got a six speed and awd, he will launch off the start faster than you will for sure.

Heh, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am..No EVO except the MR is 6 speed. And no EVO pre-2004(2005?) had a 6 speed.

up to 60......hell no, from a roll on the highway.... probably

Sorry, I assumed he was talking about just evo 8's. It might just be in the mr but I thought all evo 8's had 6. Correct me if I'm wrong.

rofl hell smoke an evo i raced a sti out the whole he took me for about half a car after that i just reeled him in and blew right by him he has upgraded turbo exhaust and regular mods nothing crazy and i was on stock turbo boosting 12 full exhaust and intake...
TwEaK

Just checked to make sure. And yes, only the MR comes with a 6 speed. All STi's have 6 speeds. EVO's will take a T2 from a standstill much easier then the STi, as the STi has to shift into 2nd at something like 45-50 mph. EVO not until 55-60.

yes, you will beat the evo on the highway, this is coming from a guy that has tied an 05 sti when i was running 8 lbs, and mostly stock. Highway.

sweet i went to the track today and aparently i need to relearn my car again i spun out 3 times......i went out with the intention to kick some porsche ass instead.... my own car kicked my ass after the rebuild of rear suspension and bigger turbo..... anyways everyone sitll thinks my car is fast so im going to shut up and ride and deem it FAsT... i need new engine/tranny mounts after today so im going to lay back on the racing evos..... im so jealous of the brakes on them

k

Get a real intercooler and you will have much the potential for much, much more power. What were your trap speeds at the track?

Stock EVO = no problem.. At least for me!

sorry road course not drag strip

Okay.. the point would be?

That nova has an interesting size motor... Where did you come up with that number?

evo vs. modded rx7...... depends on the skills of the driver! thats what its all about!

give me a stock 91 na fc, and put me up against someone who cant drive his evo worth a crap, and ill whoop his arse! put my turbo up against someone w/ some skill, and thats a race.....put me up against someone who know his car as much as i know mine.... and i dont really stand a chance! its all driver skill and knowledge of what your driving

alot of people buckle under pressure...and thats when you miss-shift, get a bad start, shift too early..etc....

454 bored over .40 I believe or is it .30? Oh I forget! What I was wondering is how you so easlily beat this Nova. Was it a Nova station wagon! Explain yourself!

it was probubly a nova station wagon coming home from home depot w/ a trunk full of bricks, 2 flat tires, and a 90 year old woman behind the wheel

hehehehe....

dont matter how many cubic inches you have..1.3 liters have been laying down the law on all piston powered vehicles for a whiel now..atleast where im from...

Depends on the driver. A couple locals here have barely modded evo's running consistant 12.0's on stock tires.

yea fmic and three inch exaust should do the trick.

I have a Galant VR4 with an EVO III RS motor 16g and some supporting fuel mods... (Daily driver) I drive around town at stock boost levels.. I have had a couple RX7's come up next to me and look at me funny and want to go on the highway. I took 2 N/A's and a 89+ Turbo II but I had to turn the boost up for the TII. Exactly as others have said, from a stop I would dominate even the Turbo II, but highway speeds I needed about 18PSI or more to pull a car length on it. ;) I know he had some mods though as it was a GTUs shell with a FMIC and throwing flames as we were going... so how modded I won't know of course... but I was also full of vacation/camping gear from vacation heh.

Now on the otherside, I have a 88 Turbo II and I have pulled on many WRX's and was pretty close with an STI. I didn't beat it but I was only a car length behind. Then there was this Modded EVO floating around town one night and well... I don't want to describe how baldy I was crying haha.

If your going against a stock setup then you have decent chances at highway speeds... but from a stop I hope you have a nice clutch to launch with... You will need it. ;) Of course driver skill always is a big factor too.

Best of luck.

If you could see that he was throwing flames as you were "going", sounds like you were losing. :)

Or, I was watching him take off a couple times as he is the one who wanted to go first.. Me on my way home from vacation was just admiring a nicely done Turbo II. ;) I like to make sure im not "going" with someone who's going to end up crashing into me or someone else. Its not worth risking anyones lives over. Besides, I know my Turbo II if im in 5th for any length of time above 60 my EGT's are close to 1300f plenty enough to throw a flame on a downshift.

As I said, I couldn't beat him without higher boost levels but as this is an RX-7 forum I don't expect you to think the 7 can lose. I am in the same boat when I am in the Turbo II. On top of that I plan on selling the Galant and get an FD to go with the FC somepoint in the near future. ;) Not to start a hissy fit, but I responded so you have some more details.

I was more so just posting in the thread to give some insite to both sides of the car vs car since I pretty much have both.

Unless the EVO owner is like most and hasn't figured out how to keep from either frying the stock clutch or bogging out off the line. EVO VIIIs are surprisingly tough to launch, although when you get it right, they are very quick.

lol you guys are funny just because the evo is awd doesn't mean shit, if its a stock evo you will walk all over his face from a start or a roll, my roomate rolls them up all day in a 200hp 240sx w/o LSD i really don't see why you are so worried about a gay ass evo.. They run what a 13.7 stock.. You should embaress him hands down they are nothing exspecially stock......

and what part about an evo is hard to launch??? you rev that fucker up to 5g's and side step the clutch..... its awd its not gonna spin.. its gonna go

I dont know what the hell youre talking about.. I have 2 friends with Evos and they will lauch their asses off. They both raced a highly modded camaro with drag radials and pulled him a slight bit out of the hole. Also you cant just launch it or it like normal of it will bog down. Im not sure how to launch one as Ive never had the chance but they say that there is a certain way to do it.

Evo's aint shit unless they are modified, i watch a supercharged stang shit all over an evo last thursday from the line tell the end of the drags stang had him the entire way 3 or 4 times... ill record that shit next thurs

maybe he couldn't drive....are you sure HE was racing?

eaither you guys can't drive or your rotors are weak sauce because i have video of my roommates 200hp 240sx pumping off an sti hella bad at the drag strip so.. i mean you guys have no faith in your cars?? or do you just think sti's and evo's are the best fuking car ever?

a 200 HP car can beat a 300 HP at the drag strip? That doesn't really make sense to me...

IF you can drive...you have a realistic chance. If he bogs the launch you'll own him.

when i get the bigger IC and bigger exhaust(cure lag) i wont be so timid but after watching cars at the track i know im no small fry now....honda you know damn well that with few mods those cars can be made fast as hell..... quit trying to be an ass....they are formidable opponents.. oh and being i havent been on the dyno EVER i have never really know what my car makes....its not lack of faith its ignorance in power available..enough explaining myself to jerks... (but then again hence the title "FLAME ON")

i have been to a drag strip all of once.. ran a 14 flat with broken diff mount and missing third gear on all 550s and a stock turbo. i dont street race enough it is illegal ya know... beating up mustangs out of stoplights doesnt count

there are many factors to that statement.....

1. what is the weight difference between the cars???.... horsepower is nothing if the car is heavy..power to weight ratio is everything

2. what is the torque difference???...... just because you have alot of horsepower doesnt always mean you have alot of torque... and both horsepower AND torque play a big role in drag racing

3. how skilled are the drivers?? a skilled driver in a 200hp car will beat a novice driver w/ a 300hp car

4.in the case of a evo vs. an rx..... tires play a big factor....if your at a track w/ vht laid out, and the fc has drag radials...then the launches will be similar... and since the evo is heavier, the fc should be able to stay pretty close....

5. the powertrain loss comparison.... the evo may have 300hp AT THE FLYWHEEL, but its got a long way to go from there... id say you lose probubly 40-50 hp to get that power to the wheels, so we are actually "only" talking about 250-260whp... and ive seen some new evos dyno at less than 250

so, yes...it is possible for a 200hp car to beat a 300hp car at the track