FD Calipers on a FC Turbo II
Ok so i just got these FD Calipers Front and Rear,And was wondering a couple thing's i no the Calipers up front will bolt right on no mods needed,And im running the FC rotors up front so there should be no Problem with fitment as far as that's concerned,My Qusetion is will the rear calipers bolt up? And im going to upgrade to Stainless Lines so id need to Know if i need the FD Stainlees Lines or the FC Lines when going about buying,I Know i no of a couple peolpe whom have done this on here but i couldnt find anything on the rears or the lines being the same,Any Help would be Great.
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I was just thinking about this same upgrade and would like to know the same thing. Would the rotors be a direct swap too?
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the front calipers are almost the same, so they just go right on. the rears i'm not sure about, but they use the same pad and caliper piston size, so i don't think there would be any difference, or advantage to using Fd calipers in the rear.
the FD has a different offset on the rotors so they won't swap over |
Yeah i talked with someone at Mazda Trix yesterday and he said pretty much the same thing the Fronts were a directed Swap but the rear's are not so,My plan is to use the front FD calipers up Front and used the FC rotors up front and leave the back the way it is except for upgrading the Lines and running some Hawk HPS pads!
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i thought the FD caliper has a different PCD.. so doesnt bolt to the same mounts
.. the main change has the internal crossover port now built into the raised pad that has the mazda font.. when in FC it was a small cast lump.. which limited some wheel choices |
What are the advantages of FD calipers? I'm about to upgrade my stock brakes but if FD brakes are better I may just swap the fronts
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The casting looks different.
FD/FC calipers use the same brake pads and rebuild kits, so there's no mechanical advantage either way. |
Il Post some pics here soon of the install before and after!
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rx7 fd calipers on a fc
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He are the pics as promised,The FD Calipers bolted right up,No modifacations needed.
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Is there full pad contact?
I though the Fd calipers would have an overlap onto the outer edge of the rotor. |
Well they definitely look better than the FC. Much cleaner/modern look to them.
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I no This post is a bit old but havnt drove the car all that much since the Caliper swap and I been noticeing a faint line on the front rotors its not grooved but its like the front caliper pads aren't making full contact with the rotors up front it stops fine just not sure whats causing this problem any help or suggestions to fix this problem would be great!
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Pictures?
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I"ll get some here tonight or Tomorrow.
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FD Front Brake Caliper Issues
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FD Front Brake Calipers issues:scratch:
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Heres the pic! Like I said its not grooved as in if you run your hand over it,You cant feel it. Just trying to figure out why this is happening. car brakes fine no squeals or noise at all.
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Looks like you have something wedged or a hard spot in the pad. Is the spot raised or is it recessed into the rotor?
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Is it happening on both rotors? Just bought a pair of FD front calipers for my 5 lug swap so hoping this is not the case.
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Check the clips
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Its not Raised it recessed but you cant feel it when you run your finger over it. It's on both front rotors as well.i don't understand everything bolts up just like the FC Calipers shits got me puzzeled lol. All the clips are on.
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has to be something with the pads. I have had fd calipers on my car for years now with out any problems
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Im running Hawk HPS Pads as well.
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Originally Posted by streetport 7
(Post 11650065)
Its not Raised it recessed but you cant feel it when you run your finger over it. It's on both front rotors as well.i don't understand everything bolts up just like the FC Calipers shits got me puzzeled lol. All the clips are on.
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Ok Thanks Bro, I'll check that out and see if that is what the problem is.
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Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
(Post 11650235)
Ive had clips shift a little bit and make slight contact with the rotor, sometimes only when the brakes were applied and they would shift over a little bit, peening them over would lock them in place better
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It actually happened to me on 2 brand new cars
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I Have A Pair On My Car Only Issue Was The Calipers Was Rubbing On in Inside Of My Wheels. Riken Mesh Put Stock Wheels Back On No Rubbing -_-
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Rx7 Disks
Originally Posted by streetport 7
(Post 11360939)
He are the pics as promised,The FD Calipers bolted right up,No modifacations needed.
Hi there. i saw this post that you posted about your FD caliper swop on the FC. I just wanted to know what discs you used. I know they say the offset on the FD is defferent. Did you need to use a spacer also with the calipers or just bolt the FD calipers straight on with the correct disc? |
You can use all of the FC parts with the FD caliper, including pads, rotors, spindle, and hub. The FD calipers is functionally identical to the FC one, except for a slightly more modern casting. I think even the rebuild kit is the same.
Mine bolted up fine (although I have a spacer between the hub and the rotor because I have 4 lug hubs), on a 5 lug hub they should bolt up without modification. In all fairness I haven't tested it yet, but all the parts bolt together and move as they should. And many others have done this before me with success. EDIT: I should also mention that there is no advantage in function, only form. They look newer, but the calipers have no extra braking power (I think even the FD rotor is only 1/16 inch greater in diameter). If you're doing it for aesthetics or because the calipers are on hand, go for it. But I wouldn't go out and spend money on it otherwise. |
A friend of mine and myself were debating this recently, oddly enough. I've never understood why I've seen and heard of so many people over the years going on about FD brakes over their previously 4 pot FC brakes. As far as I've always been aware, there is zero performance benefit.
In my opinion the FC 4 pots look more beefy from a visual standpoint. They're different from today's plain Jane smooth calipers. |
Originally Posted by Acesanugal
(Post 12278967)
I've never understood why I've seen and heard of so many people over the years going on about FD brakes over their previously 4 pot FC brakes. As far as I've always been aware, there is zero performance benefit.
Visually speaking, I prefer the look of the FD calipers. I think the lines are a bit cleaner. However the bigger casting may interfere with wheel selection. If someone happens to have an FD rotor and an FC rotor laying around to compare visually, that would be very useful. Considering this thread has been revived after several years of inactivity, it would be prudent to add as much useful data as we can. |
Originally Posted by WondrousBread
(Post 12278957)
You can use all of the FC parts with the FD caliper, including pads, rotors, spindle, and hub. The FD calipers is functionally identical to the FC one, except for a slightly more modern casting. I think even the rebuild kit is the same.
Mine bolted up fine (although I have a spacer between the hub and the rotor because I have 4 lug hubs), on a 5 lug hub they should bolt up without modification. In all fairness I haven't tested it yet, but all the parts bolt together and move as they should. And many others have done this before me with success. EDIT: I should also mention that there is no advantage in function, only form. They look newer, but the calipers have no extra braking power (I think even the FD rotor is only 1/16 inch greater in diameter). If you're doing it for aesthetics or because the calipers are on hand, go for it. But I wouldn't go out and spend money on it otherwise. I'm going to build a FC subframe into my FB. Got the FD calipers, still need all the rest though. I read that the FD caliper casting is a bit smaler on the outside. Apparently they were able to move one of the oil ports slightly alowing for a wider verity of wheel fitments. But the rest is exactly the same with the exception of how they look. would like to use 15inch wheels on that brake setup if it will got. Thanks again for the info. This was very helpful. |
I can confirm that the FD calipers make it easier to fit certain aftermarket wheels without wheel spacers as the FC calipers are quite bulky and can foul on the inner wheel.
It is correct that the calipers are functionally identical and use the same rebuild kit. The pads are also the same. However the pad hardware, anti-rattle springs etc are different. |
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