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staticguitar313 06-18-05 07:30 PM

for FC's get either a turbo II, 88' GTU, GTUs, or an S4's GXL all off these have LSD, i've never driven a 7 without LSD so i have no idea how it is. GTUs and 88' GTU are stripped down N/As with all turbo parts except engine/trans.

Stanello 06-19-05 01:07 PM

Like everyone said, a 240 is a much better drift car, but if you're set on an RX-7 like I was, (I looked at a few 240s before buying my 7), get the cheapest S4 (86-88) GXL you can find and do lots of weight reduction.

jfachner72 06-19-05 01:22 PM

I have watched the "drifting" races on TV a few times and i must say i think its silly. For years true racers have been trying to get there cars to stick to the read at higher speeds and now the drifters are trying the opposite???????

If someone can please explain what the hype is about????

I will continue on going straight, in my bone stock collectors item.

I do want to thank all of you who "RICE" your cars out because every one of them that is trashed makes my "ORIGINAL" worth even more.

Thank You
Jay

1984 FB GSL Misty Blue Metalic Bone Stock

SoYsauce 06-19-05 01:49 PM

Well To Say I Have Had Both A T2 And A 240(180) Sx And The 240 Does Seem To Be Easyer To Control Sideways Wher My Fc Wants To Grip...i Always End Up Spinning Out...ahhhh Hahahha< I Suck..... But I Would Go With The 240 To Learn....i Wanna Buy A Ae86....to Practice On....remember People We Are Not All Pro Drivers And We Do Have To Learn Some Where I Say Support Those Who Want To Learn.... And If U Are A Pro You Always Have Something Else To Learn.... + All You Gigien(not Jap) Americans Havent Even Known Of Driftting But Max A Couple Years.... So Whatever Your Fetish Race On....drift On ....as Long The Fetish Isn't Wrecking...hahah....

SoYsauce 06-19-05 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by jfachner72
I have watched the "drifting" races on TV a few times and i must say i think its silly. For years true racers have been trying to get there cars to stick to the read at higher speeds and now the drifters are trying the opposite???????

If someone can please explain what the hype is about????

I will continue on going straight, in my bone stock collectors item.

I do want to thank all of you who "RICE" your cars out because every one of them that is trashed makes my "ORIGINAL" worth even more.

Thank You
Jay

1984 FB GSL Misty Blue Metalic Bone Stock



H8R it isnt racing it is a show... but if you did know drifting is an actual raceing technique<cant spell> in f1 it is on some turns used to keep speed and save the breaks...... on downhill racing for witch format car it may be quickest way to turn in a u turn type corner without loosing to much speed...but that is only slightly drifting fo performance, d1 is show...based on style...speed just helps add points in difficulty


sorry for all yall who h8 ppl like me that cant spell( i can drive and fix cars but i cant spell half da shit) ha ahhh hahahhah

fc3sfan 06-19-05 04:40 PM

sorry i have been gone for so long

also i shuld of made myself more clear i drive downhill so i need a car that can grip/drift, so from what every one has said i think i only want an fc even more
i wanted to get a sw11 for this reson but i realy love fc's so im going to stick with it.

about 240's and me!
people i have no intest in 240's so stop telling me to get one! im sorry but i dont like the car and i have two friends that drive them and the timeig chines on them both got messed up and one of them only has 115K on it! also i dont just drift i grip over half the time i drive. 240's are just cars not for want to do. but thanks for trying to help but please stop talking about 240's i personly dont like the car. i have read and re read tons of crap on 240's and i will never buy one. there is one for sale here and its only 300 perfect frame and body just needs an engine and im not going to buy it or anyother 240!

also about speling!
ok im not good at it o well! please if you are just going to rip on my spleing dont post! thise place is for sareing info, not riping on people!

the reson i might not have enof for a turbo model is i want to get tein suspentions parts which will cost me around 1500$ i also want to get braded brake lines and a rotora break kit wich is going to be atlest another 1500$ so thats atlest 3000$ and i will only have about 6-7000 to spend

thanks for all the help
this post can be closed, deleted or kept open i dont realy care
thanks agin for all the help!

spitfire7 06-19-05 08:08 PM

wey youngster, get a t2 and get use to driving the shit out of it. ull learn its balance tollerances, and ill have lots of fun with it. if its only gonna b a performance car u can get a t2 4 around the same price. it might b a little jacked but as long as u have the tranny and the rest of the drivetrain, ull have fun. till u blow the motor. if u live in that kind of enviorment i bet u could drive 10x better than most of the dumb asses that were talikn shit. look at the 4 sale section ull see some 4 cheap good luck

KingCobraV9 06-19-05 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by SoYsauce
in f1 it is on some turns used to keep speed and save the breaks...... on downhill racing for witch format car it may be quickest way to turn in a u turn type corner without loosing to much speed


2 words: Stupid, Ricer

what are you talking about? are you retarted?? you havent ever watched profesional auto racing in your life have you? they try NOT to get sideways because it slows you down, burns up tires, is harder on the car, and not at all good due to the fact that you could spin out easily. drifting is dumb in my oppinion. i got my fc so i could hold traction in a turn and i can beat the royal piss out of most any car through a turn of any kind on 185 tires. my friends cavileer has wider tires on it and i can give it a head start in a turn and still own him. i even beat a guy ina mustang who was drifting trying to go through a turn fast and i cut on the inside a smoked him. drifting is a fad thats it. and the fc is made for turns and holding grip thats how it was designed too.

to the original poster if you wanna drift get somthing else an fc isnt that easy to do it in anyways. if you want to have a fun spirited drive and hold grip in a turn get an fc or fd hell even an fb

aznpoopy 06-19-05 11:49 PM

actually it may be faster in u turn type turns

he means - a tight hairpin where the turning radius is near or smaller then the minimum turning radius of the car, its faster to power oversteer it. (not drifting)

rally drivers do it often, yes - on tarmac roads.

AREITU 06-20-05 12:12 AM

Watching too much initial d.
 
Why's everyone so anti-240? The chassis is stout, the rear suspension doesn't do voodoo and you can easily drift it. All you need to do is slap a $300 V-LSD from another nissan into the rear end and you're good to go. The motor is torquey and timing chains don't have any problems for 100,000+ miles.

if you're going to be OMG MAD TYTE DOWNHILL GRIPDRIFT the FC, get rear toe eliminators. You, being the maverick you think you are, I would highly recommend just finding a cheap FC from somoene's front yard for $200, get it running good and go hit up the canyons with it. When you get better, or at least more overconfident in yourself, then go turbo.

Make up your mind. Grip or drift. You could always grift, which is just kicking the tail out now and then. The FC snap oversteers because of the rear toe, so get some rear toe eliminators. a bunch of people recommend S13s because when they lose grip, they lose it gradually. You'll feel the rear end slowly step out. With an FC, it'll step out, and snap the other way. S2000s are even worse.

fc3sfan 06-20-05 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by AREITU
You, being the maverick you think you are,

Make up your mind. Grip or drift. You could always grift, which is just kicking the tail out now and then. The FC snap oversteers because of the rear toe, so get some rear toe eliminators. a bunch of people recommend S13s because when they lose grip, they lose it gradually. You'll feel the rear end slowly step out. With an FC, it'll step out, and snap the other way. S2000s are even worse.

omg what the hell i never said i was a class a driver or anything like that!
i was actuly just asking for help from people wich means i automaicly have admited that i dont know everything!!!

but thanks for the rear toe eliminators idea i will look into it, why couldent you of just gave me the info without insulting me!

and about 240's i just dont want one! im not anti-240 i just dont like them

and i dont know if you drive downhill at all but grip/drift is the fastet fourm of driving you can do. so going all grip or all drift is a bad idea

well i learnd what i want. just close this becuse people cant just share info! it seams that people must be morons and have to put other people down and thats not why i started this topic

just close this i lernd what i needed to

thanks for the help


edit: read your garfield comic :rlaugh:
i hope you dont think im a inical d fan, and i like the fc becuse of that movie

hatebobbarker 06-20-05 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by fc3sfan
sorry i have been gone for so long

also i shuld of made myself more clear i drive downhill so i need a car that can grip/drift, so from what every one has said i think i only want an fc even more
i wanted to get a sw11 for this reson but i realy love fc's so im going to stick with it.

about 240's and me!
people i have no intest in 240's so stop telling me to get one! im sorry but i dont like the car and i have two friends that drive them and the timeig chines on them both got messed up and one of them only has 115K on it! also i dont just drift i grip over half the time i drive. 240's are just cars not for want to do. but thanks for trying to help but please stop talking about 240's i personly dont like the car. i have read and re read tons of crap on 240's and i will never buy one. there is one for sale here and its only 300 perfect frame and body just needs an engine and im not going to buy it or anyother 240!

also about speling!
ok im not good at it o well! please if you are just going to rip on my spleing dont post! thise place is for sareing info, not riping on people!

the reson i might not have enof for a turbo model is i want to get tein suspentions parts which will cost me around 1500$ i also want to get braded brake lines and a rotora break kit wich is going to be atlest another 1500$ so thats atlest 3000$ and i will only have about 6-7000 to spend

thanks for all the help
this post can be closed, deleted or kept open i dont realy care
thanks agin for all the help!



I can never understand what your saying, and I speak bad english(not as bad as you ;-) ), but it seems like you said you dont care what we say your gonna buy whatever you want, so just buy whatever you want and dont listen to what anyone hasto say.

fc3sfan 06-20-05 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by hatebobbarker
I can never understand what your saying, and I speak bad english(not as bad as you ;-) ), but it seems like you said you dont care what we say your gonna buy whatever you want, so just buy whatever you want and dont listen to what anyone hasto say.


no i never ment to insoult anyone i realy wanted help and i have got enof of it
realy i did not know fc's were so stable and such a good grip car. wich is what meny people just told me. and that helps my desition to buy a fc becus i like to grip in most corners and drift in a few

i realy do want to say thank you for all the help, and im sorry if you could not understand me

AREITU 06-20-05 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by fc3sfan
omg what the hell i never said i was a class a driver or anything like that!
i was actuly just asking for help from people wich means i automaicly have admited that i dont know everything!!!

but thanks for the rear toe eliminators idea i will look into it, why couldent you of just gave me the info without insulting me!

and about 240's i just dont want one! im not anti-240 i just dont like them

and i dont know if you drive downhill at all but grip/drift is the fastet fourm of driving you can do. so going all grip or all drift is a bad idea

well i learnd what i want. just close this becuse people cant just share info! it seams that people must be morons and have to put other people down and thats not why i started this topic

just close this i lernd what i needed to

thanks for the help


edit: read your garfield comic :rlaugh:
i hope you dont think im a inical d fan, and i like the fc becuse of that movie

I had to start somewhere too! So I'm not insulting you. Just being a bit critical.

Get a copy of GT3 and watch the computers drive. When they come out of a corner, they're sliding slightly, rotating the car to point in the right direction. That's very very different from the drifting you may have seen in Drift Bible (I fell asleep watching it).

If you're dead set on FCs, get one that's kinda beater-ish and non-turbo. You'll have waaaay less problems. Learn on the stock suspension then slowly upgrade. My friend has an NA with GP SPorts coilovers and new bushings. It's at http://www.mikechaotix.com/carstuff/fc/

fc3sfan 06-20-05 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by spitfire7
wey youngster, get a t2 and get use to driving the shit out of it. ull learn its balance tollerances, and ill have lots of fun with it. if its only gonna b a performance car u can get a t2 4 around the same price. it might b a little jacked but as long as u have the tranny and the rest of the drivetrain, ull have fun. till u blow the motor. if u live in that kind of enviorment i bet u could drive 10x better than most of the dumb asses that were talikn shit. look at the 4 sale section ull see some 4 cheap good luck


i want to say thanks, your not a dick and you understand were im coming from

fc3sfan 06-20-05 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by AREITU
I had to start somewhere too! So I'm not insulting you. Just being a bit critical.

Get a copy of GT3 and watch the computers drive. When they come out of a corner, they're sliding slightly, rotating the car to point in the right direction. That's very very different from the drifting you may have seen in Drift Bible (I fell asleep watching it).

If you're dead set on FCs, get one that's kinda beater-ish and non-turbo. You'll have waaaay less problems. Learn on the stock suspension then slowly upgrade. My friend has an NA with GP SPorts coilovers and new bushings. It's at http://www.mikechaotix.com/carstuff/fc/


thanks for the info
but realy i got into this type of driving when i was aruound 15 and i wached the movie "the ledgends of speed" my frind got it some were and it was and illeagl imported movie, and my tru favorit car is a evo3, but thats not anyware close to posibale for me to get. i personaly thought i.d. was sorta dumb and unrealistick also, i just saw it like 3 months ago for the fisrt time, and i have been into what you would call road racing, downhill racing or what ever sence i was 15ish
....sorry i started to ramble

anyway thanks, i probly will go with a na 7 and get some suspension stuff and just have fun and learn all i can then swap or buy a new turbo 7 thanks for the help

sorry if i snaped at you, also do you mean that your friends is for sale cus it looks basicly perfict

Rotary_Knight 06-20-05 02:08 AM

Here I'll give you some short good advice. Some here may have said this but I didn't want to read all the stuff in this long post.
I have an 89 GTU. base model and light*(lightest is early s4 base model i think) it's not the lightest FC out there but lighter than a T2 for sure. It's great if you're looking to get something quick and fun that's what I'm doing. Unfortunately I dont have lsd yet but I will shortly, but I can still drift it and dont say I cant cause YES I can. You may not have BIG power but your light weight and have excellent NA response. Plus I think it's more important to build a fun car to drive that's reliable. The more power you put in the more problems that can occur. Keep it simple and fun especially when you're starting out. Your not turning D1 Champ anytime soon. alright and good luck on your search.

Alex...check my car here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/628979

P.S. 240's aren't too bad in my opinion either but they have a truck motor...no fun compared to my rotary. :) I love it.

kontakt 06-20-05 09:15 AM

drift arguments always remind me of these kids that used to come by the dirt track... you wanna talk about a stupid conversation, we usually chased them off with wrenches.

ultradef 06-20-05 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by fc3sfan
the reson i might not have enof for a turbo model is i want to get tein suspentions parts which will cost me around 1500$ i also want to get braded brake lines and a rotora break kit wich is going to be atlest another 1500$ so thats atlest 3000$ and i will only have about 6-7000 to spend

I think you should do a little more research before you go throwing your money away...first of all, you DON'T need a $1500 Rotora brake kit. The stock TII brakes (with upgraded pads) are great and don't really need to upgraded unless you're tracking the car repeatedly. And personally, I wouldn't waste my money on Tein coilovers...there are much better coilovers out there for the $$$ (IMO).

If I were you, I would save your money, buy a TII that is in good condition (or buy one that needs a rebuild and buy a rebuilt engine). You don't necessarily need coilovers to drift...I would use my money to buy a good car first and learn to drive the car. Then you'll be able to see the car's weaknesses for yourself and mod the car accordingly.

Tournapart 06-20-05 10:46 AM

i have a 91 vert and even though its considered a heavy ass pig i love how it handles in the hills. it doesnt tend to break loose, but so far im still learning how to feel the car (only had for a month), seriously if you want a great drift/grip type car i also have a 83 toyota supra P type (comes with lsd) and that thing drifts great, im not too good but its a really easy car to loose control and regain control with, and they're cheap(got mine for 400$), you beat the shit out of them and they still drive away, just my 2 cents.

Tournapart 06-20-05 10:47 AM

and yes, tien is too expensive for the money

fc3sfan 06-20-05 12:03 PM

thaks for the help
i gess i will forget about those mods
thanks for the help but i am still sereusliy considering a non-turbo model. the more i read (not only here) the more i want a non turbo model
well thanks agin and keep the info coming if you want

mali_FC 06-20-05 12:16 PM

I think you can drift any car if you know how....you don't have to have power to go sideways. So turbo or not turbo is not the question, it's the driver....

And before you go drifting to the open roads, do yourself a favor ....practice on the empty parking lot, get used tires (bold ones), good suspension, good brakes, good LSD....other than that you can use Masking Tape to fix your car...lol
and keep your RPMS under 7 000....

Learn how to control your self and your car, more important than anything.

There's a DVD.....I think it's called Drift Bible....check it out its pretty cool.

SoYsauce 06-20-05 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by AREITU
I had to start somewhere too! So I'm not insulting you. Just being a bit critical.

Get a copy of GT3 and watch the computers drive. When they come out of a corner, they're sliding slightly, rotating the car to point in the right direction. That's very very different from the drifting you may have seen in Drift Bible (I fell asleep watching it).

http://www.mikechaotix.com/carstuff/fc/

thats what i was talkin about f1 even drift...it is only slight...but is still a drift...(controled oversteer)

so.... don't h8 because u are ignorant KingCobraV9 oh and WTF IS A V9?


FC3SFAN... GOOD LUCK I WISH I HAD SOMEPLACE WITH HILLS...

I LIVED IN JAPAN FOR 8 YEARS AND I REMEMBER THIER MOUNTIANS......I STILL SURPRISED HOW THEY CAN DRIFT ON SUCH THIN ROADS.....

JJ01769 06-20-05 03:26 PM

I would seriously try a 240 to start with. My friend and I learned on our 86 Corolla which wasnt easy. After starting out with something that underpowered, it not too difficult to go with a 240. I havent had my 7 up and running right long enough yet to go out and try it at drifting.


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