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fc3sfan 06-17-05 08:02 PM

which fc would be the best for drifting
 
first i want to say i am sorry if this has allready been broguht up, but if it was i cant find it

well i am wondering which model fc would be the best for drifting. So far i have come to the conclustion that the turbo model would be the best, but i dont know if i will have enof $$ to buy a turbo model and still be able to buy suspention and breaks. So then will the gtu model be the next best option or the gxl.

i real like the fc and i want to make a good drift/downhill car out of one
any help would be alot of help

i have liked the fc for about 4yrs now and i just have not been able to aford one and i just got a new job and now i think i can make my dream come true, but before i go get a car i want to learn all that i can. so if you have any info on driftin fc's please let me know

thank you all for the help

slpin 06-17-05 08:18 PM

no pun intended... how old are you?

rhscare 06-17-05 08:29 PM

Well first off, the 7 isnt the best car for getting sideways...period. When I drive my friends s13's and s14's its much easier, but I still wouldnt trade my TII for anything. If you are set on 7 then its just a matter of what you can afford. Either way you dont have alot of low end torque wich really can be a factor. With the NA you will be doing alot of e-braking, and you can get away with some shift locking but you have to deal with the suspension issues that really want to keep the car from getting sideways. I prefer the TII because the power is there, but plenty of my friends with NA's can get sideways just fine. Its just a matter of skill. Doesnt really matter which one your driving.

fc3sfan 06-17-05 08:30 PM

im 19 but i live in the country and i have had a d.l. sence i was 14 and there are meny hills and curvry roads were i live so i am a becomeing good driver with a very bad car....i dont even want to say what i own right now just becuse its imbarasing

i normly have been stuck with 500$ cars and i just have never modded them becuse i hated them all, but i did have a 1980 toyota corrola and that was a decent car

well i understand if you think im just a young untalendted driver and am asking ? due to movies and tv

im sorry if i am coming of as a jerk its just not meny people take me serius

rhscare:
thanks for the info :)
anymore help from any one would be nice!

slpin 06-17-05 08:36 PM

i think you should try the 240 if you are learning...
it is alot more stable and easier to slide in....
or just get a fc with lsd...

fc3sfan 06-17-05 08:40 PM

i dislike 240's due to the fact that they have an interfence motor so if the timeing chain breaks the whole engin is basicly shot. so even thow its a good car it has its downfall. i have done alot of reserch on meny cars and now i want to leren all i can on fc's so if you have any info on them please share it with me

and wich fc's come stock with lsd i know the turbo model must, but what other ones do. also does it matter wich year fc it is? i hered that with the pre 88 ones the parts are hard to find and basicly not good downhill cars

well thanks for all the help so far

slpin 06-17-05 08:48 PM

not really...
i believe the average 240sx is more reliable than the average fc...

rhscare 06-17-05 08:50 PM

Well if you are worried about engine reliability, the 7 definitly isnt the way to go lol.

Anyways as far as an LSD, the best you can hope for stock is a viscous, so, eh... I love my TII but the car wants to grip. The whole thing depends on what you want to spend. If it would be a stretch to buy a TII, I would suggest buying an NA and investing in a decent adjustable suspension setup. If you wont have money to mod your TII, you will be Captain Understeer, and you will be on a one way course with the curb. If money is tight, and all you want to do is drift, you are better off turning an NA into a reliable fun drifter.

eriksseven 06-17-05 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by rhscare
Well if you are worried about engine reliability, the 7 definitly isnt the way to go lol.

Anyways as far as an LSD, the best you can hope for stock is a viscous, so, eh... I love my TII but the car wants to grip. The whole thing depends on what you want to spend. If it would be a stretch to buy a TII, I would suggest buying an NA and investing in a decent adjustable suspension setup. If you wont have money to mod your TII, you will be Captain Understeer, and you will be on a one way course with the curb. If money is tight, and all you want to do is drift, you are better off turning an NA into a reliable fun drifter.

I thought (at least) the s4 LSD's were clutch type? (not viscous)

If you know how to drive your TII, under-steer will not be a problem...

Original poster, buy a s4 N/A. If it doesn't have a limited slip, find one in the classified section for sale (relatively cheap) and throw it in.

Get some mind suspension upgrades (rear-steer eliminators, springs/struts) and you're good to go drift.

Turbo II-FB 06-17-05 09:31 PM

well dont get a s13 for sure =weak ass chasis also most 240sx's came with open diff which also makes things more difficult

FC_DRIFTER 06-17-05 10:52 PM

Ideally if you were wanting to drift an FC, the lightest would be the best route. If you are wanting power.....buy a TII. Or you can take the alternate route, buy a base FC (I have an 86 NA for sale w/ no power anything, no sunroof, no bins....light as they come) And then swap in the 13BT motor, drivetrain, and brakes. Then u'd be set.

capn 06-17-05 10:54 PM

not to be mean, but i don't think your 19. all your grammatical errors are annoying.


but with any good footwork drifting isn't that hard in a rear drive, lightweight manual car. just find an old 240 or 180 or FC and go to town drifting in one. as for engine reliability im gonna say a KA motor will outlast a rotary anyday. Also check out the FAQ for more infor on options and included equipment on the FC

RETed 06-17-05 10:59 PM

Don't get an FC.
The FC is a pain in the ass to drift.

Go find a 240SX - they are a LOT more easy to drift.

Leave the FC's to us enthusiasts who appreciate the car for what it is...


-Ted

RotaryEvolution 06-17-05 11:27 PM

why can't we create more enthusiasts?

Aruba27flr 06-17-05 11:29 PM

If you want to have fun with an FC, take it to an autocross, that's really what they're good at. SOLO I in particular. It's kind of hard to get the tires to spin on the pavement... even trying to burnout. not like it's insanely hard, but you have to have a special touch to really get it going. a friend of mine with a short fuse was accused of driving too fast by some middle aged guy... he said "you wanna see fast" and tried to do a burnout in front of the guy... yeah, that was kind of humiliating. lol. he had an 86 sport.

unek87 06-17-05 11:41 PM

fc's are great cars when they want to run right(when they want to :rolleyes:) but it takes alot to get them to that point .if you dont have the time or the money mostly time then its not really the car for you at this point. suspension is ever thing in this car theres no if's, and's or but's about that. but dont get me wrong i love my fc and if thats what you want then i wish you the best of luck on your project(which ever ride it maybe) . :bigthumb:

Arkade 06-17-05 11:47 PM

Dude, i know i sound like a redneck when i say this but i own a truck and am looking to sell it right now for an fc and i love drifting. and no i am not talking about doing circles in the parking lot, i have taken my friend who drives a 240 out with my truck on a course we made from an undeveloped neighborhood ( 94' chevy fullsize v6 short cab short bed ) he even admits that i can drift it, its not really the car, but the driver. as far as reliability i would take everone elses word for it since i haven't been here too long or owned a rotary yet. one thing though, the rps13 (240) is recognized as one of the best drifting chasis in japan.

slpin 06-18-05 01:26 AM

problem is....
99% of the people think everything is drifting...
powerslides, flooring thru the turn....
people consider anytime the back comes around - its a drift...
and it isnt....

blu2fourty 06-18-05 02:18 AM

former 240 driver and drive a n/a fc now. from experience i say go with a 240 much easier and rx7s have crazy under steer. i'm going to weld my diff and put in dtss eliminators and hope that helps

aznpoopy 06-18-05 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by fc3sfan
i dislike 240's due to the fact that they have an interfence motor so if the timeing chain breaks the whole engin is basicly shot. so even thow its a good car it has its downfall. i have done alot of reserch on meny cars and now i want to leren all i can on fc's so if you have any info on them please share it with me

errr

the timing chain will *never* break

and you are obviously quoting something you *misread* on 240sx.org, relating to SOHC motors only.

the DOHC ka24de's 1991-1998 go to like 175k on average.

as someone said earlier, its much more reliable then a typical FC. wtf have you been smoking?

what makes you think a high mileage t2 isn't going to need a rebuild?

at any rate, if you are worried about shit breaking on your car, drift is *not* the motorsport for you. drift is all about crashing your car repeatedly. even the pros lose it now and then and bang up a fender or a rear quarter.

frigidmonkey 06-18-05 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
Don't get an FC.
The FC is a pain in the ass to drift.

Go find a 240SX - they are a LOT more easy to drift.

Leave the FC's to us enthusiasts who appreciate the car for what it is...


-Ted

for what it is? how many people in here actually appreciate it for what it is, most of us modify the PISS out of them

slpin 06-18-05 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by aznpoopy
errr

the timing chain will *never* break

and you are obviously quoting something you *misread* on 240sx.org, relating to SOHC motors only.

the DOHC ka24de's 1991-1998 go to like 175k on average.

as someone said earlier, its much more reliable then a typical FC. wtf have you been smoking?

what makes you think a high mileage t2 isn't going to need a rebuild?

at any rate, if you are worried about shit breaking on your car, drift is *not* the motorsport for you. drift is all about crashing your car repeatedly. even the pros lose it now and then and bang up a fender or a rear quarter.



timing chain can stretch, break, jump a tooth, whatever
timing GEARS will not break
timing belt coudl snap too...

Bluewind 06-18-05 04:14 PM

I wouln't be worried about this, period. Being that this is not a belt, but a metal chain, you don't really need to worry about one of these snapping. My friend is a tech at Nissan and has never seen one of these break, nor has his co-workers who are master techs for quite some time. The tensioner could go, but that's about it. I had a sohc with over 200,000 miles on it, the engine ran strong even with that! My friend has an suto with over 200,000, sohc, as well, still runs strong. Those ka24 engines are definetely work horses! I'm just surprised to see so many people saying how hard it is to drift in an FC.


Originally Posted by aznpoopy
errr

the timing chain will *never* break

and you are obviously quoting something you *misread* on 240sx.org, relating to SOHC motors only.

the DOHC ka24de's 1991-1998 go to like 175k on average.

as someone said earlier, its much more reliable then a typical FC. wtf have you been smoking?

what makes you think a high mileage t2 isn't going to need a rebuild?

at any rate, if you are worried about shit breaking on your car, drift is *not* the motorsport for you. drift is all about crashing your car repeatedly. even the pros lose it now and then and bang up a fender or a rear quarter.


aznpoopy 06-18-05 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by slpin
timing chain can stretch, break, jump a tooth, whatever
timing GEARS will not break
timing belt coudl snap too...

you want to talk theoretically fine

but in 15 years of this car, i've never even heard of a -single- case of a timing chain breaking

it does not break.

what usually happens is the tensioners fail and the chain goes slack.

fyi a full kit for overhauling the chain is only 100 bucks. takes a day to do the work

ronbros3 06-18-05 07:08 PM

GET a 1st gen, extend the rear axle assembly 4"" further back for a longer wheel base, TII motor for power and start experimenting. simply get your but away from the rear drive so you can feel it as it starts to move around and control it. RON


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