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Black Knight 01-07-05 10:31 PM

drifting parts ?'s
 
I need to know what basic parts I need to get sideways.
I have heard that some things that I need is the lsd, suspension, and light wheels.
This will just a weekend racer so I dont need anything to rad, also what proformacne mods.

thanks

Parastie 01-07-05 10:34 PM

You can get sideways without all that. A stock 7 can do it if you know what you're doing. To practice, find a big parking lot, go forward about 30 then turn the wheel as far in one direction as you dare without slowing down. The car will start to slide.

Old warn out tires do help. :bigthumb:

RotaryEvolution 01-07-05 10:34 PM

Turbo II's come with a LSD, add in some cheap tires and lightweight wheels and air em up(rear tires) near max and that's all you basically need to start.

Black Knight 01-07-05 10:40 PM

Thanks! Do Know Of Any Good Looking Wheels And What Size?

FC_DRIFTER 01-07-05 10:41 PM

I drift my 86 base NA. Only mod I have is no emissions and a 3" cat-back exhaust. The car is very easy to drift as long as you know how to use the e-brake, and know anything about weight transfer.

FC_DRIFTER 01-07-05 10:42 PM

If you are looking to do the "drift" setup, get yourself a good set of coilovers. Struts and springs are nice to have. But if you are looking for the "drift" setup then don't cheap out and get a nice set of coilovers.

Black Knight 01-07-05 10:44 PM

3" cat-back exhaust what brand? and can you tell me a little about the basic of drift.

FC_DRIFTER 01-07-05 10:50 PM

There are several cat-back exhausts. I've heard people prefer the Racing Beat duals. But I've also heard good things about the Apexi N1 exhaust. I have the Corksport cat-back.

The basic of drift.........drifting is hard to sum up. You can try to post in the "Drift" section of the forum. Or you can get on ebay and buy some drift dvd's. They will tell you the basics of what you need to learn. The best dvd by far that I've purchased/seen is "The Drift Bible". Keiichi Tsuchiya ("The Drift King") drives and narrorates throughout the entire dvd. This tells you all the different setups, approaches, techniques that you need to know in order to drift.

Black Knight 01-07-05 10:52 PM

Cool. Does anyone know RETed? Evil Aviator said he knows a lot about drifting.
About the coilovers and struts what are some good brands?

RotaryEvolution 01-07-05 10:53 PM

you can try to teach someone how to drift but some people have it and some people don't and never will. you just have to take the pointers and see if you got what it takes.


i get all tense unless i got my music cranked, some things like that help also.

FC_DRIFTER 01-07-05 10:55 PM

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Coilover selection depends on how much you are willing to spend. You can spend up to $2,500 on a good set of coilovers. Tein, HKS, Cusco, Kei Office are all some brands you might want to check out.

Here is what the dvd "Drift Bible" looks like.

Jager 01-07-05 10:58 PM

I dont think any of us know who RETed is

:confused: :question: .

RotaryEvolution 01-07-05 10:59 PM

name doesn't sound familiar..

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:06 PM

sound like i need save up some more $$$. i hope i dont have to spend that much, sence it is gonig to be a weekend racer < for now :) > but like fc said i dont cheap ones and end up messing them up cause drifting is very hard on your car.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:16 PM

I found a great suspension kit at http://www.rxecret7.com it's the Tein HE for $1,330.00.
Sounds pretty good.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:18 PM

strut bars... do i need some of those?

RotaryEvolution 01-07-05 11:26 PM

for rigidity it helps, you don't need to spend ~$100 on strut bars, the cheap-O ebay ones work just about as well.

FC_DRIFTER 01-07-05 11:27 PM

Strut bars, Suspension Techniques sway bars a good modification. The Tein HE's are excellent. My cousin has them on his 240sx.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:28 PM

cool what do you think about the tein HE kit

BklynRX7 01-07-05 11:29 PM

If you would liek a copy of the drift bible, and have a high speed conection im me at bklynRX7 on aol or aim and ill send it to you.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:30 PM

he had good luck with them then

Bigretardhead 01-07-05 11:31 PM

if you don't already drift(which I'm assuming), try and learn to drift the stock car first. Its much easier to learn about weight shifting and all that good stuff before you go and make your car super stiff and modified. just get some DTSS(rear toe steering) eliminators from corksport.com or somewhere, make sure everything works well, replace all the suspension bushings (this would help a lot), and maybe get some strut bars front and rear. also, if your car doesn't have stock LSD, you can pick up a stock one for pretty cheap usually.
this would be a great platform to learn on. then go get yourself some nice coilovers(Tein HE's would be fine), and add power to your desire.

but seriously, it will be much harder to learn to make the car slide after you start to modify it. the sloppy stock suspension will help exagerate weight shifting, so you will understand how it effects the car better. also, you will learn to control the car yourself, rather than adjust the suspension to try and make up for it. also, when you hit a curb or whatever with the stock parts, they're much cheaper to replace than some fancy Tein coilovers and nice wheels... and, its very likely for that to happen. just keep at it and don't get frustrated! its difficult ;)

oh, and watch the drift bible.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:34 PM

I EAT CIVICS thanks so much that will get me started on the track :bigthumb: . i dont have aol though.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:38 PM

Thanks Bigretardhead i'll do that as soon as i get my t2 <very soon>

BklynRX7 01-07-05 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Black Knight
I EAT CIVICS thanks so much that will get me started on the track :bigthumb: . i dont have aol though.

Well if you know how to dl torrents (bittorent, azureus) you can get it from www.torrentreactor.com. If not i should have my ftp running again this week so ill pm you and let you dl it directly.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:43 PM

that would be great. www.torrentreactor.com. is down

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:47 PM

YEAH!! My first hot thread.

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bigretardhead
if you don't already drift(which I'm assuming), try and learn to drift the stock car first. Its much easier to learn about weight shifting and all that good stuff before you go and make your car super stiff and modified. just get some DTSS(rear toe steering) eliminators from corksport.com or somewhere, make sure everything works well, replace all the suspension bushings (this would help a lot), and maybe get some strut bars front and rear. also, if your car doesn't have stock LSD, you can pick up a stock one for pretty cheap usually.
this would be a great platform to learn on. then go get yourself some nice coilovers(Tein HE's would be fine), and add power to your desire.

you gys think once i get good 385hp would about good.

EDiddy 01-07-05 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by JagerII
I dont think any of us know who RETed is

:confused: :question: .

he is based out of Hawaii Honolulu i think and is the owner/operator of www.fc3spro.com if im not mistaken :D if im wrong please correct me
very very knowledge aboout 7's and cars in genmeral between him IceMark and RotoryRessurection you can learn jsut about anythign you need to know :bigthumb:

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:56 PM

thanks ediddy

Black Knight 01-07-05 11:58 PM

is there parts i need for safety reasons

Bigretardhead 01-08-05 12:00 AM

roll bar if you want. fire extinguisher maybe? don't need anything. just depends if you want it there.

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:02 AM

Bigretardhead, you think once i get good 385hp would about good.

RotaryEvolution 01-08-05 12:05 AM

that's a bit much...

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:07 AM

ok how much HP would you shoot for?

I was just guessing :D

Bigretardhead 01-08-05 12:08 AM

well, that should be more than enough. but really it just depends on what you want. I've seen videos of guys in japan drifting 500hp FCs, and also drifting 250hp FCs. its just driver preference. once you get better, you can start to add power, and if you like having more power, then keep adding. or you may find that it gets harder to control with more power. once you get better, you'll start to kinda figure out what YOU want to do with the car, rather than what someone else does, or what most people do. its really just up to you.

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:13 AM

Thanks. 500Hp in a drift fc thats CRAZY :O

Bigretardhead 01-08-05 12:14 AM

lol. yes it is. :D

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:15 AM

I think 285hp would be good then.

RotaryEvolution 01-08-05 12:16 AM

it's all in how much you can handle, obviously 500HP is going to be harder to control than 200HP is. a lower HP car is harder to break loose than a high HP car is though but tends to pull harder when catching traction and obviously gets up to and past fast enough speeds for a tight track.

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:19 AM

i konw i wont have 500HP i get myself killed

chris-reedtn 01-08-05 12:26 AM

200 hp is more than enough to drift with, you can learn on the stock car and then move your self forward as you grow in skill. The more you learn the more you can spend, you need to learn how to use the car and how it reacts to to sliding, The firts mod i would say would be get an lsd, then shocks and springs or coilovers if you wanna make that jump, but you dont need them to start, and if you dont need anything to radical then shocks adn springs are adequit. once you get those you'll wanna lower the car, this will give you better controll because youll have a lower center of gravity, and less body roll. you should also get some new sway bars, with adjustable links so you can adjust them to suit your your style. But when you lower your car you need to get the camber rod for the rear, so you can adjust camber in the rears, and some camber plates for the front, negative camber is good, but to much can be a problem, and can also ruin a good set of tires fast, youll just have to learn what suits you. This should give you a good place to get and learn to drift well. To bad that the rx7s suspension is non comparable to the 240 because you can deff adjust everything on them.

well i hope this helps and the best safety thing you need to know is to keep it on the track

-Chris

Black Knight 01-08-05 12:31 AM

thanks everyone for all your help. its late. see yall later.

slava 01-08-05 12:59 AM

my advice is to not even worry about the power, especially if your gettin a turbo II. power should be one of the last things u should focus on. for suspension if u got money get the tein he for around 1500$, or if your lucky you can find them used. if you dont wanna spend too much then get some stiff springs (tein S Tech are my favorite, thats wat i got on my car and they are very stiff). i have also heard good things about the apex springs. also u should probably get some good shox, adjustable ones. like kyb agx's. u can get the springs for around 200$ and racingbeat.com sells the kyb agx's for 106$ each for the rear, and a little more for the front. so like 500$ for shox. thats like half the price of the coilovers and almost as good. also sway bars help a lot.rear toe eliminators are only 40 bucks and i heard make a big difference, i ordered mine but they havnt came in yet. and another thing i havnt heard people mention is the tanabe underbrace. its only 90 bucks and will reduce drag when your trying to get sideways. hope my info helped.

BklynRX7 01-08-05 01:24 AM

Yea power isnt much of an issue for hobby drifting, ive gotten cars with around 100hp sideways, front wheel drive no less, with the handbrake. Without the handbrake i can get the rear to slide a bit on 90 degree turns using what i later learned is called a feint technique (go driftbible :) ) . I would just go with some shocls and springs now if i were you. Adjustables are cool but I personally dont find them necessary unless your goin to the track alot. Just get some kyb GR-2 and itsll stiffen them up better than stock and only coat you $200. EIbach make some good springs for good prices. i have a set for sale if your interested.

Bob_The_Normal 01-08-05 01:29 AM

Please don't run out and try 'drifting' on the streets.

I'm not accusing you or anything... just preventing.

You need a big BIG empty parking lot... no light poles, no parking curbs... and try to find one as flat as possible, like no water gutters running through them.

Start practicing in an area where no matter WHAT direction your car goes in at 30mph you'll have room to stop. I'm serious... even if you think you'll start drifting right, which would take you away from whatever is on your left side.... there are things that can happen to send you flying straight in the other direction faster than you were going in the first place, you'll be surprised.

If you have someone experienced they can tell you what to do to start the drift, timing on the countersteer and everything... it's very un-intuitive unfortunately... so just be safe.

--Gary

Jager 01-08-05 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by EDiddy
he is based out of Hawaii Honolulu i think and is the owner/operator of www.fc3spro.com if im not mistaken :D if im wrong please correct me
very very knowledge aboout 7's and cars in genmeral between him IceMark and RotoryRessurection you can learn jsut about anythign you need to know :bigthumb:

I was just kidding. My bad.

Kenteth 01-08-05 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Black Knight
Cool. Does anyone know RETed? Evil Aviator said he knows a lot about drifting.
About the coilovers and struts what are some good brands?

You mean does anyone *not* know Ted. He's like one of the Gods... you'll get to know icemark, aaroncake, kevin@rotary resurrection, and the atkins guys. Theres a bunch of informative people here. Your most useful took on the forum will Always be the search tool though, I suggest you use it :)

scathcart 01-08-05 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Karack
name doesn't sound familiar..

He's only the top poster on this forum (with over 13,000 posts) and the only person writing artciles on www.fc3spro.com....
Never heard of Ted Koseki?

Bob_The_Normal 01-08-05 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by scathcart
He's only the top poster on this forum (with over 13,000 posts) and the only person writing artciles on www.fc3spro.com....
Never heard of Ted Koseki?

Is that the guy that thinks he knows everything? Man I hate that guy! He ALWAYS has the right answer... what knowitall!

RETed more like RETarded! ha ha hah hahahahah!!!

Man I'm good.

;P (j/k Ted lol)

--Gary


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