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87nitefc 10-16-14 12:44 PM

Custom delete Wiring
 
Ok so as the title says I'm making a "custom" wiring as in deleting all junk wires I don't need such as all the ac wires I know at least a couple of people have done this could any of you guys shine some light on what harnesses/plugs I need to chop off if u could give the harness code that could help also such as (F-51)- rec. fresh select motor ??? What ever that is lol

87nitefc 10-16-14 01:18 PM

Before anyone ask it's a 87 fc TII

Molotovman 10-16-14 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11816827)
Ok so as the title says I'm making a "custom" wiring as in deleting all junk wires I don't need such as all the ac wires I know at least a couple of people have done this could any of you guys shine some light on what harnesses/plugs I need to chop off if u could give the harness code that could help also such as (F-51)- rec. fresh select motor ??? What ever that is lol

Hit the FAQ, you will find a link to wiring diagrams for the entire car.

clokker 10-16-14 01:22 PM

"rec. fresh select motor" sounds like part of the HVAC system, specifically, the motor that toggles between fresh and recycled air.

Not knowing this points up a problem...you need a fairly good grasp of the harness before you can "weed out the crap" without problems. It's not hard if you approach it in sections but ultimately you'll need a good overview at least.

87nitefc 10-16-14 02:38 PM

Yeah I get u that's why if anyone could let me know what they cut I already have a fair understanding of the diagram I'm jus kinda lazy on searching wat every single harness is I already rewired my emission harness and well the front/engine harness is next to be fixed

barkz 10-16-14 04:05 PM

are you talking about a "tucked harness"? if so do a search for that

87nitefc 10-16-14 04:53 PM

Not tucked more as jus unnessary wire removal I'm leaving only the wires that the 7 needs to function all other wires are getting removed

clokker 10-16-14 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11816959)
...I'm leaving only the wires that the 7 needs to function all other wires are getting removed

Then you need to define "function".

clokker 10-17-14 08:09 AM

It's also worth noting that some of the wiring usually considered to be "junk/crap" can be easily repurposed to become "useful/integrated".
The AAS system for example, can be quite handy.

Point being, just because you have no current use for some circuits (to be determined after you define "functional") doesn't mean you might not in the future.

87nitefc 10-17-14 10:49 AM

To function such as all luxury that the car comes with originally such as radio cigarette lighter glovebox light all those wires and if possible the plug code(you know like f-51) like this I could pinpoint on the fsm what it is exactly

I get u that is why I had already thought about that and was going to shorten those wires so when or if I need them I could jus crimp another wire to it but that's only on certain ones I had also thought about adding male & female connectors to the ends of the chopped wires so like that I can jus plug the missing connection back to how it was

scathcart 10-17-14 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11817223)
It's also worth noting that some of the wiring usually considered to be "junk/crap" can be easily repurposed to become "useful/integrated".

Point being, just because you have no current use for it, doesn't mean you might not in the future.

Makes me rethink my views on circumcision...

clokker 10-17-14 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by scathcart (Post 11817372)
Makes me rethink my views on circumcision...

If you haven't decided by now, I wouldn't advise it.

barkz 10-17-14 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11817290)
To function such as all luxury that the car comes with originally such as radio cigarette lighter glovebox light all those wires and if possible the plug code(you know like f-51) like this I could pinpoint on the fsm what it is exactly

I get u that is why I had already thought about that and was going to shorten those wires so when or if I need them I could jus crimp another wire to it but that's only on certain ones I had also thought about adding male & female connectors to the ends of the chopped wires so like that I can jus plug the missing connection back to how it was

So you're talking about already hidden wires that you don't need? I figured you were more concerned with engine bay stuff. And clokker was probably leaning towards, what have you/do you plan on removing from the engine compartment?
I guess I'm just confused as to why youre removing wires in the first place if not for a shaved/tucked bay look.

87nitefc 10-17-14 08:15 PM

Well that's what I'm going for since the previous owner thought it was a good idea to extend some of the wires and cut harnesses and not cut the extra wire I'll post later what I have removed so far

barkz 10-17-14 08:17 PM

What are you going for?

87nitefc 10-17-14 08:22 PM

Nice and tucked so far I deleted some of the check connector by the ign coil then by the main fuse box I got rid of some plugs there I also rewired my injectors,knock sensor and tps In the bay I'm not sure but I believe it's not much to remove but when under the dash there's so many wires that had been already cut such as the cigarette lighter and radio and for some dumb reason the center dash panel it's harness was rewired and extended but not finished

EnjoiPugs 10-18-14 12:17 AM

They most likely had something else installed that they took out later. Or tried to install something and it didnt work so they had to patch it back together.

Was the engine swapped that all of these things are extended? I guess you just need to figure out what is "extra."

87nitefc 10-18-14 12:58 PM

Nope no swap in my opinion I believe he was jus playing with the harness too much

E_nastysfc 10-19-14 01:52 AM

Wouldn't a painless kit be a better option?

87nitefc 10-19-14 03:28 PM

Wats a painless kit

87nitefc 10-22-14 09:35 AM

For a clean tucked look where should I run engine harness and front harness

j9fd3s 10-22-14 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11819636)
For a clean tucked look where should I run engine harness and front harness

dude go wireless! i'm not even kidding, the newer BMW motorcycles are wireless, apparently.

as an aside you can have the conversation with the police about why you couldn't signal for the turn because googles stock price was down that day

87nitefc 10-22-14 10:52 AM

wtf wireless sounds like funn hahaha

clokker 10-22-14 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11819636)
For a clean tucked look where should I run engine harness and front harness

I must say that my first thought upon reading this was that someone capable of doing the work wouldn't ask this question.

j9fd3s 10-22-14 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11819938)
I must say that my first thought upon reading this was that someone capable of doing the work wouldn't ask this question.

and that is why i suggested wireless, see we're a helpful bunch!

but just think once the car is all blueteethed, you can look at which position your recirc motor is on your phone

clokker 10-22-14 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s (Post 11819958)
but just think once the car is all blueteethed, you can look at which position your recirc motor is on your phone

We live in an age of miracles.

87nitefc 10-22-14 08:12 PM

So I jus ordered my wireless kit off eBay comming soon this summer

87nitefc 10-24-14 08:12 PM

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I realized I haven't shown my bay on how it had ended up with my ghetto rewire still got work to do but this is my progress

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2-N-D-pink 10-25-14 05:32 AM

Wheres your oil fill tube and oil cap?

2-N-D-pink 10-25-14 05:34 AM

Ha! I see it

JerryLH3 10-25-14 06:06 AM

Step 1) buy non-hacked complete harness appropriate for your year car

Step 2) install said harness

Step 3) drive car and leave harness alone

87nitefc 10-25-14 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by JerryLH3 (Post 11821230)
Step 1) buy non-hacked complete harness appropriate for your year car Step 2) install said harness Step 3) drive car and leave harness alone

I got a problem with step 1
1) no money to buy such thing I mean if u could supply me with the harness why not but most likely u won't so gotta keep working with wat I got

jjwalker 10-25-14 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11821321)
I got a problem with step 1
1) no money to buy such thing I mean if u could supply me with the harness why not but most likely u won't so gotta keep working with wat I got

I am always puzzled with this very response...

Let's make a list.

1) Why would you buy a car that you absolutely have no knowledge of, expect to rewire, have no automotive wiring experience?

2) Do you own a multimeter?!

3) You have no money? Knowledge equals money. You buy a car that needs work with the knowledge to fix it or you pay someone else to do it.

4) Do you have a multimeter yet?

5) Why on earth would you purchase an iconic sports car but then not have any money to fix it? Reminds me of the guy here locally 10 years ago that won a ferrari but couldnt drive it because he couldnt afford the insurance and so it just sat in the garage.

87nitefc 10-25-14 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by jjwalker (Post 11821404)
I am always puzzled with this very response... Let's make a list. 1) Why would you buy a car that you absolutely have no knowledge of, expect to rewire, have no automotive wiring experience? 2) Do you own a multimeter?! 3) You have no money? Knowledge equals money. You buy a car that needs work with the knowledge to fix it or you pay someone else to do it. 4) Do you have a multimeter yet? 5) Why on earth would you purchase an iconic sports car but then not have any money to fix it? Reminds me of the guy here locally 10 years ago that won a ferrari but couldnt drive it because he couldnt afford the insurance and so it just sat in the garage.


I work as car audio installer so knowledge of multimeter and auto wiring is not a problem

87nitefc 10-25-14 08:37 PM

Knowledge = money ??? Wat about experience = knowledge but not money

Yes I always expected to fix it myself along with everything I've done to my previous car without prior knowledge and learn during my process of my current project no I'm not an expert on the rotary engine but I rather learn and teach myself how it works if any help is given I would appreciate

barkz 10-25-14 09:21 PM

car audio installer? best buy does not count... and running a power wire and some rca's is a completely different animal than rewiring an entire car.

87nitefc 10-25-14 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by barkz (Post 11821542)
car audio installer? best buy does not count... and running a power wire and some rca's is a completely different animal than rewiring an entire car.

Best buy c'mon now wires are wire some are thicker then others and some are positive and some are negative seems about the same now that I gotta look at a diagram to determine what there purpose is a lil different I'm not saying my job is easy but I should get some credit for what I do besides it's not jus sterios it's custom alarms setups and electric unlock conversions and more it's a lot with wireing can't tell me that doesn't count it's a lot of custom work required and it's all done with on the job experience on a lil shop on the streets ghetto yes pays the bills of course I'm jus lookin for suggestions and advise from anyone who has gone this path not to be judge on my knowledge seriously I could jus ask a customer what they think about my job or about my work if I wanted that

clokker 10-26-14 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11821563)
Best buy c'mon now wires are wire...

You have a point.
I've wired a few cars and have no specific training, just the desire to do it.

Here's the thing about wiring a FC- you're working with very proprietary, FC only stuff.
Like the bezel switches, which are hard to replace and must be used.
Relatively speaking, the engine harness is much simpler than the chassis wiring.

You do need to be very familiar with the whole system before you begin or it's going to get weird down the line.

jjwalker 10-26-14 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by 87nitefc (Post 11821563)
Best buy c'mon now wires are wire some are thicker then others and some are positive and some are negative seems about the same now that I gotta look at a diagram to determine what there purpose is a lil different I'm not saying my job is easy but I should get some credit for what I do besides it's not jus sterios it's custom alarms setups and electric unlock conversions and more it's a lot with wireing can't tell me that doesn't count it's a lot of custom work required and it's all done with on the job experience on a lil shop on the streets ghetto yes pays the bills of course I'm jus lookin for suggestions and advise from anyone who has gone this path not to be judge on my knowledge seriously I could jus ask a customer what they think about my job or about my work if I wanted that

Okay, I got to back him up on this. I have been a professional installer for 6 years and went to college for automotive. I specialize in security and convenience as well as tracking devices and surveillance.

I have done all 6 years at best buy. I just recently walked out of best buy due to a nutcase manager.

With that said, I know nothing of the OP's skills.

87nitefc 10-27-14 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11821640)
You have a point. I've wired a few cars and have no specific training, just the desire to do it. Here's the thing about wiring a FC- you're working with very proprietary, FC only stuff. Like the bezel switches, which are hard to replace and must be used. Relatively speaking, the engine harness is much simpler than the chassis wiring. You do need to be very familiar with the whole system before you begin or it's going to get weird down the line.


Well idk if u could tell (based on pic) but so far I have tackled the emissions harness personally I think it's not bad I have the wire coming out thru a hole behind the tb but I'm lookin for a different location to run my engine and 2front harness I might jus rewire my right headlight so it can run with my emission harness instead but I got a plug I'm not sure about a plug that's in the front I'll post pic

87nitefc 10-27-14 08:41 AM

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I've haven't found what this is for the fsm it's located in the front of the bay near all the relays there's also a blk with white wire jus hangin I'm not sure if it with it but any ideas
I'm guessing it green with orange and a blue wire anyone could confirm on wat this is for

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clokker 10-27-14 08:55 AM

Have you got the wiring schematic for your car yet?

The single dangling wire could be for the alarm on the hood latch, not sure what the plug is for but it's all the manual...you really shouldn't have to ask us for this info.

Rikk 10-27-14 09:14 AM

That connector in your hands is for the AC it plugs in about 6 inches away from the tank near the passenger headlight

87nitefc 10-27-14 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by badsvt1 (Post 11822188)
That connector in your hands is for the AC it plugs in about 6 inches away from the tank near the passenger headlight

And jus like that I'm set that should be the last wire I needed to figure out thanks

87nitefc 10-27-14 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by clokker (Post 11822179)
Have you got the wiring schematic for your car yet? The single dangling wire could be for the alarm on the hood latch, not sure what the plug is for but it's all the manual...you really shouldn't have to ask us for this info.

I do got it jus that since there are so many wires missing I second think everything unless I'm 100% I know what it is

87nitefc 11-02-14 09:28 AM

So I haven't been able to do much but I notice that the clutch sensor had it's wires disconnected jus wondering wat does this sensor do I'm guessing it signals the ecu I'm pressing my clutch or watt

87nitefc 11-02-14 09:30 AM

Does work with the tachk

clokker 11-02-14 09:36 AM

That clutch switch is part of the starter interlock system (doesn't go to the ECU at all) and is meant to prevent the terminally clueless from starting in gear. If the clutch pedal is not depressed and the switch activated, the starter relay is dead.

It is commonly bypassed.

87nitefc 11-02-14 12:38 PM

Kinda lost but do u mean it's like a safety feature to prevent from starting in gear??

Or is it like a check connector to find out if the relay is working

clokker 11-02-14 12:41 PM

Indirectly, yes.

The system actually doesn't care if the car is in gear but it won't let the starter activate until the clutch is pushed in.


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