carbon fiber turbo inlet duct
 

i wanted to post my new turbo inlet duct that i made. i know some people are going to say im being a ricer or whatever but thats ok. i have this strange affinity for carbon fiber. i really don't know what it is, its kind of mesmerizing to me. i was just posting this to see what people thought about it. there is a difference between the old tid that i had and this one. my old one was just a stainless steal 3 inch 45 degree bend that i bought from napa and when i made this one off of that part it was still pretty hot after a half hour. this carbon fiber one stays cool to the touch at all times its great and i can pretty much stand on this one and it wont flex or anything.

so now for the pics. sorry i don't have a digi cam just a camera phone. :P


btw don't mind the engine bay it kinda dirty right now

thats not bad... maybe a bit ricer if its a carbon fiber colored sticker wrapped around a pipe... haha

Looks great. U should mass produce them I would buy one (Especially if it had the factory connects for the BOV and other stuff.

i have the same feeling for carbon fiber, i love the stuff, if u make another one lemme kno and ill buy it asap

lol oh no its real. this is just my kinda test cause im going to try to do ic piping. it seems to really hold up to the heat very well so today i am going to do the ic piping off the hot side. hmmm i could always try to plumb some brass fitting into it. i have no emissions so i cant remember what goes back into the intake. i think there is 2 for the S4 and 3 for the S5. im going to also get some pictures some pictures of me standing on it just to show that its the real deal.

i will probably end up making some more probably this week. sometimes i run out of time between school and work. right now i am working on some carbon fiber intercooler piping. i figured that if the tensile strength is that of steel then why wouldn't it hold boost. im going to test my theory out tonight. just a little bit more to go on it.

alright so i just got the carbon fiber intercooler piping installed and i did some hard runs at 10 lbs of boost and it seems to be holding boost very well(considering its one layer of cf) and when i got home i jumped out of my car and felt the new pipe and its still ice cold. it gotta work wonders for my AIT's. ill post pics i think that im going to redo it cause i don't like the 90 degree elbow that i had to use but hey its all trial and error right. lol

now that would be nice to have... waht kind of price would you be wanting for say... a CAI tube, like 3", and IC piping?

are you making the piping yourself?

i was thinking like 65 shipped for the turbo inlet duct. as far as ic piping im still working that one out. i for got to add in the thickness of the resin and the fabric so the piping wouldn't fit the 2.5 in couplers that i have with the 2.75 in tbolt clamps that i have. but im working that one out. im going to order some more supplies on wednesday when my girlfriend gets paid but im already starting on the turbo inlet duct. my buddy was telling me that i should do a universal ic kit with some 90 degrees and some straights and some 45 degree bends instead of a specific kit for a particular car.

yeah i am making the piping my self. it seems like one layer of carbon fiber hold up very well to the heat temps and i can boost 14 psi pretty consistently and theres no flex in the pipe at all. plus i know chrome is nice and bling bling but hell cf is like oh man i wanna do my engine bay. LOL

oh btw what would yall pay for cf ic piping kit that was universal and what would yall pay for a kit that all you have to do is just drill holes???? i know aluminum ic kits on ebay are 100 plus so i really don't know. ive been searching but haven't been able to find any cf ic piping

I'm just wondering what your AIT's are. Since you aren't able to lose heat anywhere except for the Intercooler.

hmm i don't have a heat temp gun but i noticed that my airfuel gauge was reading really rich on the same tune that i had. i just had one pipe off the turbo though i didn't have enough to do all the piping yet. lol

Thats really cool. I wonder how much better the CF insulates the colder intake air than the stock plastic or even the aluminum... i would be interested also

i too am interested to see how it would dissipate the heat more than the aluminum or even ss steel. i think that the intake temps will be lower than with the metal piping options that are out there. im going to try it out and then take temps with a heat gun to see the temp differences.

I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT!!! I too have a thing for CF and that TID is sex man :clit: I definitely want at least the TID let me know how much the full IC piping kit will cost. You could make alot of money man i think you are about to start something big man..

i was just thinking for the pipe. but im currently researching for some good deals on some couplers and clamps. i have no connections for couplers and clamp and things like that. ebay is probably my best bet. let me see. i think that i have about a quarter of a gallon of resin left so im going to try to make some more tid's so that i can start sending them out. i will try to get a good deal with the couplers if i can. i will let you guy know whats going on im hoping to get atleast 3 to 4 more done with the resin that i have left this weekend.... i have to order some more resin and cloth so that i can start making alot more of them.

also i haven't ran a bracket to hold the pipe up for years(about 3). with the metal pipe i never had one. so i figured i would try it out with the carbon fiber one. i havn't had any problems yet. the afm and the air filter seem to support everything really well so i really don't have any movement even when racing, autox, or drifting. so i don't see a need to have a mounting bracket.

now just to let ya'll know though this cf intake is 3 inches so if you don't have a fuel cut defenser then your going to need one or your going to be saying hello to fuel cut. i was able to run 14psi with this same diameter intake and 2.5 in exhaust with no problems at all and that was without a boost controller. every now and again like far and few in between i did spike to 20psi but i instanly let off. the boost controller cured that though.lol

as far as the intercooler piping i already made one for my hotsid but i didn't realize that the ic piping that i currenty have is 2.25ID and 2.50OD so when i made the ic pipe for the hot side it ended up being 2.50ID and 2.75OD so what do you know i blew it clean off when i hit 14. but it handeld the heat very well and there was no stress to the pipe at all. but im debating on making a full custom kit for the FC. on that all you got to do is cut your holes and bolt it on. it looks like its between 9 to 15 total feet of piping. im going to be doing this with a mixture of 2 different fabrics. the inside fabric has a heat rating of 1900 degrees so that will take most of the heat that is produced and the the outer is going to be carbon fiber. and i think that is the most cost effective way to make these parts with out charging an arm and a leg. i know most of us gen 2 guys aren't rich.lol :) im going to run the cost of materials and make my car the work horse for all the testing. lol. if i end up making just the bolt on ic kit for the FC then its going to have bead on it. i haven't decided if im just going to do beads made of epoxy or if im going to flare the carbon fiber at the end of the pipes.

ive been running this set up for about a week now and its holding up really well to the heat and just daily beating that we all love to give our cars..sorry about the long post but between work and school sometime i don't get a chance to look at the forum but i look at it atleast twice a day though. can't get enough of a bad ass forum like this.

also any constructive critisizim is more than welcome. sometime i just don't see other options out there.


alright so update i was just searching for 3inch couplers and i think that i might have found some at a reasonable price to connect the TID to the AFM. if i am able to purchase these i will include them. thanks.

damn dude, a cf intake would be so baller!
definitely make some, even if I don't have the money to buy one now, I will later! ;)

and gl with your intercooler piping, I was thinking that it would help with heat dissipation a lot since the cf will not retain heat like a metal pipe would, and thus make the whole FMIC setup much more efficient.

thats what i was thinking and i noticed that when i did use the mock up cf pipe that i made that it didn't heat soak as much as i thought that it would which also put my narrow band(i know i need a wide band lol) more rich than it normaly was with the aluminum ic piping.

thats also one of the thought about using the two different types of fabrics to do this just for the fact that one has a 1900 degree temp rating. i mean if your ic piping saw those temps your car better be on fire or something lol

How thick is the CF once it is all done? Would it be possible to get it extra thick? I would hate to have to heat wrap a nice looking CF intake pipe.

-Ben

Carbon Fiber 600F
Kevlar 250-350F
Fiberglass Holds 75% of tinsility at 650, softens at 1350F

these are some specs of the different fabrics. im looking for tensile strength. even though the tube is going to be thin you should be able to stand on it and not worry about breaking it(atleast i can but i only weigh about 135)

here goes the specs of tensile strength.

Our Carbon Sleeves are Aerospace grade
34Msi Modulus (Compression Strength)
640ksi Tinsile Strength (Breaking Stength)

hope this chart helps alittle. i can make it thicker i haven't measured how thick the one that i have on my car is though. i can also do the carbon kevlar braid of fabric or the carbon/fiberglass braid of fabric also.

alright time for an update.

so i am going to be vacuum bagging all the intakes. this will produce a way better part. i won't have to use so much resin so the part will be lighter than the one on my car and the resin to fabric ratio will be perfect. im going to make some this weekend like this and let yall know how they come out. plus it cuts down on the time that its going to take for me to make these parts since less sanding will be involved since vacuum bagging will produce a smoother part off the bat.
man im glad im in school for orthotic and prosthetics. it really teaching me alot about different techniques than what i was doing on my own. lol i know im rambling again.

I have the feeling you are on to something real big here my friend. I think that you will be making lots of $$ on this real soon man... Keep it up i will be a customer of yours my car is going to be white with a CF color scheme. Its a 10AE that will have CF hood, CFside splitters, lip, matching rims, white painted housings, and now i can have the CF piping. That will be unique and look AMAZING...

thanks for the positive reply man i really appricieate it. on my tII that i have now im going to be making some cf fenders,front lip, rear diffuser, bumpers(front and rear), side skirts and a replica of my remamemyia wangan(also im currently working on another spoiler that im building out of foam for the mold). and the on my 88se tII conversion im going to be doing the full hard body in cf and then the bumpers and all that are going to be painted. so when i park them together its going to be like looking at the same pic but inverted. its going to be so sweet.

Umm no.. Boost controller only raises boost over stock wastgate spring. It can't harness and restrain boost from spiking. Only a larger wastegate or a ported one will do that.
Also 20psi usually means your boost gauge is broken or you blew your motor.
The temp of the fabric means nothing without the details of the resin/epoxies temp range.


As for $65 shipped. I find that hard to believe with the purchasing of proper resin and the shortage of CF.

FC owners are also notorious for saying"I'll buy that if you make it!" then backing out. So don't get your hopes up too much.

haha damn...sounds like a party pooper but i guess u got a point. also...this is very interesting. an i/c piping kit made outta carbon fiber. not too keen on the bumpers and all that junk but im def down for the piping. that's really great. tell me when ur ready to pick up orders.

im really not having that hard of a time finding the fabric or the resins. ive been researching this for over a year though on where i can get the materials for the best price.

Digi7ech has a point and im not going to argue. all i know that is the resin that i have been using is holding up to the heat of the motor for the intake i know its only been 5 days but i hand laid the part thats on the car right now and i know the infusion wet out isn't as good as vacuum bagging.

i also know that FC guy are cheap and im not trying to get my hopes up. im not only going to be making intakes for FC's though but i would like to produce some aftermarket parts for the FC since i have one that i know will work. that why im testing the parts on my car cause i wouldn't feel right selling someone some that blows up on them and leaves them stranded on the road. i would feel bad and that wouldn't be good for business. lol. i do thank you for your feedback on the issue. My TID seems to be holding up just fine even with the engine bay temps im going to be vacuum bagging my next one and putting that one on my car to test to see which one gives me the better and stronger results.

i figure if honda guys are running intake manifolds out of carbon fiber why can't we run intakes out of carbon fiber. the ic piping is still in the works. im getting all the kinks worked out in that be for i let that one out. thanks.

oh you and me both im going to try to lay up one tonight. i just gotta go to the store for some mixing cups. less sanding and better strength to weight ratio means less time for turn around for me.

Have u found a supplier for the other misc. things, so we can just buy everything from u at once and only have to worry about 1 shipping cost?
I really want this when i rebuild my motor in a few weeks.
This will be able to be used with stock turbo, right?
More pics is a must, because it looks nice as hell.
Thanks
Jon

man you gotta get this stuff up and running...i'm redoing my piping in a couple weeks and this would be great even though i don't really like CF it would be a functional upgrade for me

Kinda like putting lipstick on a pig, don't you think?

well im def. interested if you make 3" intercooler piping, lemme know when thats gonna be availble

i dont even have and fmic and im willing to get this. so all ill need are couplers, fmic, t-rings, and thats it! cant wait to see the progress

Hey, Hey!!! something new to look foward to. I would definitley buy the intake and the ic setup if you made. Its something different that isn't made, and alot of people like cf. In essence, you got yourself a business, and by the looks of it, alot of customers. I'm in for the setup.

thanks for all the positive responses i'm working on more intakes and im just waiting for more materials to come in the mail so that i can make and test fit the ic piping and see how it holds up to boost. i will definately keep yall updated.

LOL i really do agree. this motor is a temporary motor. its just a 6 port turbo motor that i threw in there to get me to school and work and things like that. im currently rebuilding my 4 port with a large street port and a TO4B with a 50mm waste gate. im going with a silver and blue theme on it and going to be painting the engine bay black and other misc things.

What are you using for a vacuum pump? You said you were vacuum bagging, are you just using a shop-vac or something else? I'm looking into a new project myself, don't worry, not any kind of composite work, so I'm not tryin to steal your market. Nice product, I might want a TID here soon.

Cool shit dude. Let me know about that though.

J

as far as i know you can use a shop vac but i think that the motor burns out sooner than later??? i haven had any experience with the shop vac. i bought my pump off of ebay. vacuum bagging isn't all that bad once you get the materials and the research for it in. i like it.

I'm going to keep this in mind for my turbo project, money is NOT a problem at all.

im doing a complete turbo swap in my n/a and im going to need ic piping for the car. i wont have it done for a while so there is plenty of time. cant wait to see progress on it. post pics up when you get some

alright so i just ordered some more cf and it should be here in 3 days hopefully. i ordered enough to do just the hotside ic piping on my car so this is going to be for my testing to decied on how many layers and the fabrication method that will work out the best. i also ordered enough to do 7 intakes so that will be good. im just waiting to see if i can win this bid on the couplers. the couplers is going to make it cost a little bit more just cause theyre not cheap lol. i trying to by a lot right now to keep the cost down. thanks

im interested in one if $65 is the price +shipping, my TI looks like horse shit, what size couplers are needed?

any updates?

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hey everyone. sorry about the long delay on the updates. alot has happend so i had to push everything else to the side for a bit. but i was able to get some new parts done. these are just some parts that im working on and getting all the kinks out of. also i am still making the intakes for who ever wants one just pm me and i will reply. i am getting internet at home soon but for now i just use the internet at school. so it might take a day to reply.


i am in the works of making a front lip for the series 4 bumper

http://a904.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...fb52ffbe97.jpg

that should be the link for the lip. i am also perfecting a single din 3 gauge pod that will fill both din slots though. and also a 3 pod glove box and demister grills and other just random parts like door sills, carbon fiber pedals (based off the sparco ones) and also a cas cover and a cover for the front pulley for the guys with no ps or ac. sorry it took so long to get some up dates on this.

i would suggesst you apply for a group buy before the mods come in and clean house.

im interested in the TID and a few other things so let me know when they are being produced

um i can make the parts when ever you would like them. just let me know what you want made and when you would like to get them by and ill do my best to meet that dead line.