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DCmina 07-10-02 10:53 PM

Can an n/a 2nd gen beat an n/a MKIV Supra?
 
Hey, my friend just got a Supra! I'm soooooooooo jealous!
He's broke now, so he won't be modding it for a while.
Do you guys think an n/a RX-7 without porting can beat one?

emagdnim 07-10-02 11:10 PM

I think it's very possible.

superpimp35 07-10-02 11:13 PM

if you cn drive the car like a mother you can!! he's got you on torque, but you have the revs, also your lighter than he is so give it a shot!!! :dragster:

DCmina 07-10-02 11:14 PM

well he just learn to drive a stick so I think I can win. :)
gotta get my exhaust first though.

scathcart 07-10-02 11:30 PM


Originally posted by DCmina
well he just learn to drive a stick so I think I can win. :)
gotta get my exhaust first though.

You should kill him.

RarestRX 07-10-02 11:32 PM

Yo,


I'd say yes. I was in my buddies GTUs and we raced a MkIII turbo and he barely walked us. You should kill the NA.

KS
1989 GTUs "Go Jon!"

jspecracer7 07-10-02 11:37 PM

Re: Can an n/a 2nd gen beat an n/a MKIV Supra?
 

Originally posted by DCmina
Hey, my friend just got a Supra! I'm soooooooooo jealous!
He's broke now, so he won't be modding it for a while.
Do you guys think an n/a RX-7 without porting can beat one?

You should bring DEATH to that supra....:D

Ziggy682 07-11-02 11:21 PM

I ripped up a MKIII Supra Turbo in my old CRX Si one time. Sorry, this isn't an RX-7 story, but it is pretty funny.

I pulled up to a light and the guys in the Supra laughed at my car and asked what it was. I told them what kind of car it was, and they laughed again. I told them I would race them if they thought my car was that funny. They followed me to a side street, I honked three times, and we launched. I shut it down after 2nd gear, and had already pulled about 5 car lengths. When they pulled up after that, they had this stunned look on their faces. Then the guy tells me it's his brother's car, and he doesn't know how to drive it very well. No shit Sherlock.

I apologize if my non RX-7 talk offended any of you guys, but I warned you beforehand.

Anyway, it should be a pretty good race, as long as you know how to drive.

Silkworm 07-12-02 01:13 AM

What did you put in that CRX?! 5 car lengths by 2nd gear? shiet! :)

PaulC

dre_2ooo 07-12-02 01:15 AM

Supra's are heavy ass biotches. You should beat him easily.

Both have power comparable to a V6/I6... but you're lighter ;).

DCmina 07-12-02 01:29 AM

now I just gotta order my exhaust on Racing Beat, which is on backorder =(

David88vert 07-12-02 07:43 AM

That Supra will run 15.5 all stock, with the average driver. He has tons more torque. If your 7 is stock and N/A, and you are both average drivers, he will beat you, but not by much. It really will come down to the driver.
1/8mile will favor him, so only run him 1/4 mile.

Josepi 07-12-02 07:47 AM

Surprised no one has mentioned this. If he is so new to sticks, can he downshift correctly? If he can't take him from a roll.

Barwick 07-12-02 09:56 AM

I'd feel sorry for your friend, not happy. The supra is kinda ugly to most people on the road, and the only thing that you can do in one (if you own one) to get back at 'em is smoke them in their Z28/Trans Am/Corvette/Viper/Whatever

And your friend won't be doing much of that in an N/A Supra. Although WE think it looks cool..

BDoty311 07-12-02 12:10 PM

If you are talking about a ported and modded RX then you should blow him out. Like other people said people with torquey cars typically spin their tires too much, espcially if they are new to the car. The funny thing is that i was going to buy one of those but the guy sold it to a friend instead of me. But hey it definately worked out for the better.

RotorHad 07-12-02 12:26 PM

My roomate has a MkIII Soopie Turbo and HE was jealous of my T2!!! They are very big and very heavy. He may have me by 80-100 hp (cuz of mods), but his extra weight (like 600-800 #) makes a huge difference. If he gets you on the street take him to an autocross... :)

Funklord 07-14-02 05:34 AM

my friend has a supra turbo and its a bit faster than my rx7 t2

Ziggy682 07-14-02 06:29 AM


Originally posted by Silkworm
What did you put in that CRX?! 5 car lengths by 2nd gear? shiet! :)

PaulC

Hehe, a better driver. No seriously, the car was pretty quick (15.3 in the quarter), but he should have kept up better than that. The kid just couldn't drive.

boXer 07-14-02 07:57 AM


Originally posted by dre_2ooo
Supra's are heavy ass biotches. You should beat him easily.

Both have power comparable to a V6/I6... but you're lighter ;).

That depends, i know a guy with a Supra MKIV NA 5-speed... 3042punds 220bhp

RylAssassin 07-14-02 09:04 AM

My best freind is gettin a Supra and it pisses me off soo much cuz the rx7 i bought was supposed to be for him and he was sooo into rx7s but i got the money first, so now he says hes gonna get a supra turbo and kick my ass cuz of the extra hp but i told him dude i have way more experience driving than you, you'll beleive it when we race. I was kinda scared though cuz i have an N/A but hey just like you guys say its all about the driver...well most of it

RylAssassin 07-14-02 09:08 AM

hey what if you asked this same question on the supra forum, you should try DCmina just to get reactions from both sides

DCmina 07-14-02 10:42 AM

I would, but I have to keep my RX-7 awesomeness secret from my friend.
So when I smoke him, he'll be like :confused:

diabolical1 07-14-02 01:40 PM


Originally posted by DCmina
well he just learn to drive a stick so I think I can win. :)
gotta get my exhaust first though.

well, take advantage if the fact that he can't drive well, because when he gets the hang of it (assuming he doesnt wreck it first) it will get harder and harder and harder to beat him ...

the Supra is much heavier, yes ... but it also has a lot more low end power and torque ... so all he really NEEDS to do, is get you on a good launch and it's hopeless. he probably won't run away from you, but you will not be able to pass him for love nor money ...

your exhaust should make a big difference, but even with that ... he'll still have more power and torque, but the key is that you will have improved your horsepower to weight ratio and that will turn the tables ... once you get a good launch, it will be hard for him to pass.

after you get the exhaust, get a light flywheel and decent clutch ...

DCmina 07-14-02 01:47 PM

well I just got a new clutch, so I don't think I'll get a good one for a while.

BoostedRotors 07-14-02 01:55 PM

Im thinking the Supra would take you, not too bad, but I think hell win. Go race so we can find out!


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