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The Unsent 10-10-03 08:54 AM

im getting a black TII carbon fiber hood for my N/A S4. Instead of painting my hood red to match the car. im going to paint the car black to match the hood.

uZurper 10-10-03 09:17 AM

To me, I personally don't see anything wrong with having a black hood - carbon fiber or not. It may look like rice to other people, but what really counts is when you put the hood on. Was the hood the first thing modded to the car - merely for looks? In that case, it'd be rice (imho)...

If, after all the mods (engine swap, exhaust, etc..) it was one of the last things modded - then there's nothing wrong with that. If you're a starving student or whatever, what are your priorities in terms of your car?... (that's what you should be asking, shouldn't it?)

PowerOverFC 10-10-03 09:23 AM

787B? does that have CF on it?

liquidferrum 10-10-03 09:41 AM

black13b, love your avatar

1987RX7guy 10-10-03 09:48 AM


Originally posted by PowerOverFC
787B? does that have CF on it?
787 doesn't have a HOOD like our cars lol!
I has those things that open up in the back.












IMO yes it is rice if your car isn't black and you painted a non-black hood the color black to make it appear as CF hood. If your car is black then duh it isn't rice. But leaving a CF hood un-painted to SHOW-OFF the CF is being a complete rice boy. Not to mention 88integrals touched on a VERY VALID point. Getting any composit body part to SAVE WEIGHT is stupid since it would be less than 1-2% of the whole wieght of the car. Meaning what? didly squat. Getting a set of convertible wheels will save you more pounds than a carbon fiber hood will for a third or less of the price.


Santiago

Black13B 10-10-03 09:52 AM


Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
Getting any composit body part to SAVE WEIGHT is stupid since it would be less than 1-2% of the whole wieght of the car. Meaning what? didly squat. Getting a set of convertible wheels will save you more pounds than a carbon fiber hood will for a third or less of the price.


Santiago

You must be getting a daily driven street car confused with an actual track car.

Those guys must all run steel body parts because, like you say, fibreglass body or carbon fibre body doesn't do didly squat.. :rolleyes:

2ndGen.rocket 10-10-03 09:56 AM


Originally posted by 88IntegraLS


What's next? Mugen emblems? Vtec stickers? Momo ebrake handles?

You could buy a nice cold air intake, header, and aluminum flywheel for the price of that carbon hood and you could see the benefits of those mods on the dyno graph and autocross track, respectively.


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what the hell is wrong with a Momo E-brake handle? I seriously think some of you guys are fucking idiots. If i see a white car with a black hood on it, I just assume that its white trash that cant afford to get the car painted. Other than that, I don't think about it and dont give a shit. Man, some of you guys are dumb. We drive sports cars that are 12 to 17 years old. Who cares if someone tries to make it look a little more modern, puts some nice shit in the interior, or puts a carbon hood on it? Its not like its hurting you or anything. I mean, I for one hate chrome wheels and some of the other shit that people do to cars, but Im not gonna sit here and tell them that they are wrong for it, or that this is rice and that isnt. Who the hell do you think you are?

1987RX7guy 10-10-03 09:57 AM


Originally posted by Black13B
You must be getting a daily driven street car confused with an actual track car.

Those guys must all run steel body parts because, like you say, fibreglass body or carbon fibre body doesn't do didly squat.. :rolleyes:

So my Sport and your TII are ACTUAL RACE CARS now eh?

Last time I checked they were sports cars not track cars.

Black13B 10-10-03 10:04 AM


Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
So my Sport and your TII are ACTUAL RACE CARS now eh?

Last time I checked they were sports cars not track cars.

Hah. Stop putting words in my mouth.

So I guess there is no car that is only a track car?

When did I say my TII (Which is an N/A GXL btw) was a track car?

I was drawing attention to the fact that you said getting body parts made of lighter composite is doing "squat".

What about Mazdee's AE86 with the 13B? It's not driven on the street. It's a track car. Most of the body is fibreglass. According to your rulebook, that car is rice. It'll eat your car anyday. And it's N/A too!

Mr. Eccentric 10-10-03 10:11 AM

If it's black steel yes. If it's cf, no.

1987RX7guy 10-10-03 11:07 AM


Originally posted by Black13B
Hah. Stop putting words in my mouth.

So I guess there is no car that is only a track car?

When did I say my TII (Which is an N/A GXL btw) was a track car?

I was drawing attention to the fact that you said getting body parts made of lighter composite is doing "squat".

What about Mazdee's AE86 with the 13B? It's not driven on the street. It's a track car. Most of the body is fibreglass. According to your rulebook, that car is rice. It'll eat your car anyday. And it's N/A too!


For a race car EVERYTHING is important and money usually is not a problem. For a street car why waste 900 or 1k dollars like the vented hood in the other thread just to save ~35 pounds at the most when you could get one of the following: (which would do MORE than just the hood) Get a FULL exhaust, Buy LIGHT wheels and an alum hood like I am :D, buy or make yourself a cold air intake, get a nitrous kit for an N/a or get the stock turbo rebuilt or updgraded, have a rebuild done to freshen up the engine, buy a set of light seats which would still be under 900 dollars BTW with sliders and all. :)

Want more?

BTW I confused you with another canadian. :) sorry about that.

Santiago

I am just saying that LOOKING like a CF hood is being a rice boy if that is the only reason it is black on a non-black car. Not to mention that you would see poor gains from a CF or FG hood compared to spending 900+ dollars on OTHER performance mods.

Black13B 10-10-03 11:21 AM


Originally posted by 1987RX7guy

Want more?

Fair enough..

Regardless, I can't honestly believe some of you have the audacity to tell people that if they paint their hood black, it's rice. It's their car, it's their taste. Personally I love the look of a blaze red FC with a black hood. It may not be up to everyone elses tastes, but it certainly isn't "rice".

I think that blue 10AE was butt ugly, but who am I to preach? It isn't rice. He likes the colour. It's his tastes.

Some of you guys are making a rice rulebook when you have yet to realize it's all about the attitude of the driver.

Have you guys ever ran into someone who drives a brand bone stock new civic 4 door, and they drive the think like it's a race car? It just seems like you are all saying he can't be called rice if his car is bone stock.

It's all the attitude of the driver.

bottlejockey 10-10-03 11:41 AM


Originally posted by 88IntegraLS
In my opinion, fast car or not, unless it has a specific purpose which contributes to the total package of the car, it is cosmetic.

I could see going for a carbon hood on the 787B if it had a hood, because it was really stinking fast and light to begin with, and saving 10 pounds would make a difference in its performance envelope.

I challange anyone to prove that a carbon hood on the most modded FD or TII improves anything measurable.

Rice baby, let's turn some heads with our mad carbon hood and loud azz exhaust yo! :rolleyes:

What's next? Mugen emblems? Vtec stickers? Momo ebrake handles?

You could buy a nice cold air intake, header, and aluminum flywheel for the price of that carbon hood and you could see the benefits of those mods on the dyno graph and autocross track, respectively.

Go ahead, look like a wanna be racer. It don't bother me. But black painted hoods which are supposed to look like something they are not are pure fashion, just like these hideous blingin dubs on suv's and spinner snap on wheel covers.

:rolleyes:

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So by your definition of rice, anything cosmetic that doesn't have any performance advantages is ricer.

So any car that puts aftermarkets wheels on it is a ricer.
They usually way more, and with less sidewall they don't hook up as well. Right

theloudroom 10-10-03 12:06 PM


Originally posted by Black13B
Gimme a fucking break.

Since when is a certain color scheme of your car rice? I hate yellow cars, but yellow certainly isn't rice.

If you people are going as far as to say a black hood is rice, then those all-season tires I got must be rice, they don't have any functionality when I try to race!! :rolleyes:

Right. This is stupid. Now what color your hood is makes your car rice? Please.

Way too many people on this board scream "rice" over the strangest things.

That's it! "Rice" has now become rice. Stop using it or your just another, jump-on-the-bandwagon loser.

Rice is putting a big wing on a FWD car, and 5" tips on a 2" exhaust. Not evertyhing that you don't like is rice. Geez people.

A CF hood is lighter, and black reduces glare. WTF is wrong with that?

Now we have people going "Oh well it's not worth the gain, blah blah blah". STFU! You're just looking for an excuse to make fun of any car that isn't yours. It's a black hood people, not some huge kanji characters on the back window, that the driver can't even read.

I don't know if I'd shell out the money for a CF hood, but if someone gave me one, I'd sure as hell put it on. It's @$#^ better than stock.

You guys are a bunch of idiots. Black hoods on a different color predates the very existence of the term rice.

DEZERTE 10-10-03 12:18 PM


Originally posted by introVert
Not rice- my whole car is black, dammit!
Lol :werd: ..same

liquidferrum 10-10-03 12:49 PM

this thread is retarted....if you talk to the V8 truck guys, anything...ANYTHING from the asian area is rice..so we are a bunch of ricers, telling each other who is more rice.

1987RX7guy 10-10-03 12:52 PM


Originally posted by bottlejockey
So by your definition of rice, anything cosmetic that doesn't have any performance advantages is ricer.

So any car that puts aftermarkets wheels on it is a ricer.
They usually way more, and with less sidewall they don't hook up as well. Right

Your miss-quoting the definition.

RICE- Something intended to LOOK like a performance part without actually being a performance part. Usually performed in bad taste to gain attention by young kids that can't afford real performance parts or don't know the real way to gain performance out of their vehicle.

i.e.-buying a hood scopp that is fiberglassed on with no functionality, using exhaust piping larger than a semi, etc.

For instance if you add a respectable sized spoiler and paint it to match and make it look clean then ok that is just cosmetic but not rice since your not out to look like an F1 car. ;)


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