Are black hoods rice on FCs?
 

Ive been seeing more and more black hoods on cars. What's the deal with it? Is it trying to look like carbon fiber from a distance?

if you are replacing the hood and can only find a black one, no.

if you are painting your aluminum hood black, YES.

if you are getting a black carbon fiber hood, no.

Not rice- my whole car is black, dammit!

I ran around with my black tII hood on the n/a for a while cuz I had to get it painted and didn't have anywhere to stick it, and it looked pretty nice, just to be different I guess. But, on most cars it's fugly :)

meh, i have two black hoods and my car is silver, one of which is a tII hood. Now I am not paying to get either of them painted. wht? cause i just blew a grand on my rebuild and im a broke college student.

If its only for the looks, like the cheapo integras around here, then yes its gay.

i don't think its rice, but yeah u c all those integras like that it looks dumb

there's a bunch of rice boys that spray paint there hoods black around town. some cars look pretty good though

GOOD LORD CAN WE STOP ASKING IF EVERYTHING IS RICE?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!

...... ok, I'm sorry. That was rude :p:

black hoods look good on black cars. cf looks good if its painted the color of the car. i think that you should get cf for weight redux, not to follow a trend.

yea i got a black car but i just got an aluminum hood thats white an every thinks that its carbon fiber for some reason i dont know .but i hate it. im waiting for my painter to paint it for me

If you do paint your hood black, just please paint the headlight covers as well.

Gimme a fucking break.

Since when is a certain color scheme of your car rice? I hate yellow cars, but yellow certainly isn't rice.

If you people are going as far as to say a black hood is rice, then those all-season tires I got must be rice, they don't have any functionality when I try to race!! :rolleyes:

I second that bad ass reply

there not if your car runs 11's

If you get a carbon fiber hood, that money you'd be spending painting it could be used on other mods. If anything it's anti-rice. :D

Hell yeah it's rice, carbon or not. What purpose does it serve? Weight reduction? $500+ for 10 pounds (if that) over the aluminum hoods?

Black hoods might have merit for reducing glare off the hood (military planes have black top noses in front of the cockpits for this reason) but unless the dashboard has been similarly flat black painted, this effect is not possible. If the black hood is gloss it is also dysfunctional from this standpoint.

In short, black hoods are purely cosmetic and supposed to make normal cars look like race cars; ie. make them look FAST. That is rice.

what if your car is fast? rice sh!t is tacky carbon fiber hood on a fast car is not tacky.

what if your car is fast? rice sh!t is tacky, a carbon fiber hood on a fast car is not tacky. A 2 foot tall spoiler is tacky!!!

In my opinion, fast car or not, unless it has a specific purpose which contributes to the total package of the car, it is cosmetic.

I could see going for a carbon hood on the 787B if it had a hood, because it was really stinking fast and light to begin with, and saving 10 pounds would make a difference in its performance envelope.

I challange anyone to prove that a carbon hood on the most modded FD or TII improves anything measurable.

Rice baby, let's turn some heads with our mad carbon hood and loud azz exhaust yo! :rolleyes:

What's next? Mugen emblems? Vtec stickers? Momo ebrake handles?

You could buy a nice cold air intake, header, and aluminum flywheel for the price of that carbon hood and you could see the benefits of those mods on the dyno graph and autocross track, respectively.

Go ahead, look like a wanna be racer. It don't bother me. But black painted hoods which are supposed to look like something they are not are pure fashion, just like these hideous blingin dubs on suv's and spinner snap on wheel covers.

:rolleyes:

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I hate riced out cars too.

But what about Power/Weight Ratio. That improves performance.

Every 100 lbs. = 1 tenth in the quarter mile.

How much lighter is a carbon fiber hood.

It may not be much, but it is still a measurable difference.

Going by that rule of thumb, 10 lbs would equal .01 seconds in the quarter mile. Wooooooooooooo that's a good way to spend $500-1000!

A header and cold air intake plus some tires, on the contrary, would probably give .5 second. Light flywheel could be a whole second on an auto-x course and real race tires on that same course could be 3-5.


Stock alum. hoods weigh around 25 lbs, carbon ones around 15 and stock steel 50-55. I spent fifty bucks saving 30 pounds when I got my vert aluminum hood for my base FC, that's 1.43 pounds saved per dollar spent. A carbon hood over that same aluminum hood would be .02 pounds saved per dollar spent, based on a five hundred dollar hood. THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY

yep, that's why i got a non-black hood!!!

actually, my hood was black (duh, black car) but then i swapped it to this other one... what color is this...? well, i swapped it b/c it's an aluminum hood while mine was a steel one. It was in great condition, and it didn't set me back too much.... i figure i'll get it painted when i get the rest of my car painted.... but i'm not sure what color to paint it... the color of the hood? or just black?

I think a black or CF hood looks cool on a white car. But, I wouldn't go with a painted hood, because I don't want to deal with all the rice accusations.

well, I gues some of you hate my car than. What I am is definetely not a ricer. But after buying my engine, the guy was super nice and gave me an aluminum hood. This hood happens to be blackish(purple tint), now, I think it looks pretty bad ass.

I spent all my cake on the new motor, and now my car is fast so who gives a shit if the hood doesn't match. I think it looks a hell of a lot better than the steel hood that matched colors.

Plus, I don't think you guys would consider the old school muscle cars like a demon to be rice, yet they had flat black hoods from the factory.

What colour should I paint my aluminum hood on my Black car then? :rolleyes:

im getting a black TII carbon fiber hood for my N/A S4. Instead of painting my hood red to match the car. im going to paint the car black to match the hood.

To me, I personally don't see anything wrong with having a black hood - carbon fiber or not. It may look like rice to other people, but what really counts is when you put the hood on. Was the hood the first thing modded to the car - merely for looks? In that case, it'd be rice (imho)...

If, after all the mods (engine swap, exhaust, etc..) it was one of the last things modded - then there's nothing wrong with that. If you're a starving student or whatever, what are your priorities in terms of your car?... (that's what you should be asking, shouldn't it?)

787B? does that have CF on it?

black13b, love your avatar

787 doesn't have a HOOD like our cars lol!
I has those things that open up in the back.












IMO yes it is rice if your car isn't black and you painted a non-black hood the color black to make it appear as CF hood. If your car is black then duh it isn't rice. But leaving a CF hood un-painted to SHOW-OFF the CF is being a complete rice boy. Not to mention 88integrals touched on a VERY VALID point. Getting any composit body part to SAVE WEIGHT is stupid since it would be less than 1-2% of the whole wieght of the car. Meaning what? didly squat. Getting a set of convertible wheels will save you more pounds than a carbon fiber hood will for a third or less of the price.


Santiago

You must be getting a daily driven street car confused with an actual track car.

Those guys must all run steel body parts because, like you say, fibreglass body or carbon fibre body doesn't do didly squat.. :rolleyes:

what the hell is wrong with a Momo E-brake handle? I seriously think some of you guys are fucking idiots. If i see a white car with a black hood on it, I just assume that its white trash that cant afford to get the car painted. Other than that, I don't think about it and dont give a shit. Man, some of you guys are dumb. We drive sports cars that are 12 to 17 years old. Who cares if someone tries to make it look a little more modern, puts some nice shit in the interior, or puts a carbon hood on it? Its not like its hurting you or anything. I mean, I for one hate chrome wheels and some of the other shit that people do to cars, but Im not gonna sit here and tell them that they are wrong for it, or that this is rice and that isnt. Who the hell do you think you are?

So my Sport and your TII are ACTUAL RACE CARS now eh?

Last time I checked they were sports cars not track cars.

Hah. Stop putting words in my mouth.

So I guess there is no car that is only a track car?

When did I say my TII (Which is an N/A GXL btw) was a track car?

I was drawing attention to the fact that you said getting body parts made of lighter composite is doing "squat".

What about Mazdee's AE86 with the 13B? It's not driven on the street. It's a track car. Most of the body is fibreglass. According to your rulebook, that car is rice. It'll eat your car anyday. And it's N/A too!

If it's black steel yes. If it's cf, no.

For a race car EVERYTHING is important and money usually is not a problem. For a street car why waste 900 or 1k dollars like the vented hood in the other thread just to save ~35 pounds at the most when you could get one of the following: (which would do MORE than just the hood) Get a FULL exhaust, Buy LIGHT wheels and an alum hood like I am :D, buy or make yourself a cold air intake, get a nitrous kit for an N/a or get the stock turbo rebuilt or updgraded, have a rebuild done to freshen up the engine, buy a set of light seats which would still be under 900 dollars BTW with sliders and all. :)

Want more?

BTW I confused you with another canadian. :) sorry about that.

Santiago

I am just saying that LOOKING like a CF hood is being a rice boy if that is the only reason it is black on a non-black car. Not to mention that you would see poor gains from a CF or FG hood compared to spending 900+ dollars on OTHER performance mods.

Fair enough..

Regardless, I can't honestly believe some of you have the audacity to tell people that if they paint their hood black, it's rice. It's their car, it's their taste. Personally I love the look of a blaze red FC with a black hood. It may not be up to everyone elses tastes, but it certainly isn't "rice".

I think that blue 10AE was butt ugly, but who am I to preach? It isn't rice. He likes the colour. It's his tastes.

Some of you guys are making a rice rulebook when you have yet to realize it's all about the attitude of the driver.

Have you guys ever ran into someone who drives a brand bone stock new civic 4 door, and they drive the think like it's a race car? It just seems like you are all saying he can't be called rice if his car is bone stock.

It's all the attitude of the driver.

So by your definition of rice, anything cosmetic that doesn't have any performance advantages is ricer.

So any car that puts aftermarkets wheels on it is a ricer.
They usually way more, and with less sidewall they don't hook up as well. Right

Right. This is stupid. Now what color your hood is makes your car rice? Please.

Way too many people on this board scream "rice" over the strangest things.

That's it! "Rice" has now become rice. Stop using it or your just another, jump-on-the-bandwagon loser.

Rice is putting a big wing on a FWD car, and 5" tips on a 2" exhaust. Not evertyhing that you don't like is rice. Geez people.

A CF hood is lighter, and black reduces glare. WTF is wrong with that?

Now we have people going "Oh well it's not worth the gain, blah blah blah". STFU! You're just looking for an excuse to make fun of any car that isn't yours. It's a black hood people, not some huge kanji characters on the back window, that the driver can't even read.

I don't know if I'd shell out the money for a CF hood, but if someone gave me one, I'd sure as hell put it on. It's @$#^ better than stock.

You guys are a bunch of idiots. Black hoods on a different color predates the very existence of the term rice.

Lol :werd: ..same

this thread is retarted....if you talk to the V8 truck guys, anything...ANYTHING from the asian area is rice..so we are a bunch of ricers, telling each other who is more rice.

Your miss-quoting the definition.

RICE- Something intended to LOOK like a performance part without actually being a performance part. Usually performed in bad taste to gain attention by young kids that can't afford real performance parts or don't know the real way to gain performance out of their vehicle.

i.e.-buying a hood scopp that is fiberglassed on with no functionality, using exhaust piping larger than a semi, etc.

For instance if you add a respectable sized spoiler and paint it to match and make it look clean then ok that is just cosmetic but not rice since your not out to look like an F1 car. ;)