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Madrx7racer 10-24-06 12:32 AM

RETed: know where I could find info on the effectiveness of the scoop on the FD i posted above? I have been unable to find anything on this and thought I'd have you give it a shot.....

I am not sure how the airflow will be affected by it......especially on a reverse vented hood...... I hope I made sense.

RETed 10-24-06 07:55 AM

Sorry, scoops like that end up being more of an aerodynamic drag than being useful for intake purposes.
There are a lot better designs that putting something like that on top of the hood. :(


-Ted

classicauto 10-24-06 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
hIGGI's price is SHIPPED.
So, it's not $30.
As for being "smooth"...
I dunno what you're looking for, but a mirror smooth finish actually hurts airflow.
Sure, it's rough casted, but the units were made to compete with the GReddy unit.
I'm not sure what this RPM unit looks like, but I'd like to see what the finished product looks like before making any commitments.


-Ted

True, its a shipped price...
BUT - for me, Joe is a few hours away. For higgi's elbow - I paid the 100 dollars, then a 22 dollar duty charge when I picked it up at the post office....thats hardly a "all in" price, sorry.

But I can have an item that size cross the border for about $30, so its still a better price....or at least close enough to compete, which brings me to the point of the casting.

Im not talking about the inside of the intake, in fact, if the outside was the same as the inside - there wouldn't be an issue. But NO JOKE the outside of the elbow could cut you if you had little boy hands. Not exactly what Id consider to be one of the prettier pieces in my engine bay.

It would take 10 minutes to smooth that out on the mould, its hasn't been done, I would say that if Joe's (R.P.M's) elbow is even within 10bucks over and above I would buy it over Higgi's simply because it looks better. (if its indeed smoother on the outside

And if he designed it to compete with the Greddy elbow ted, didn't he note the Greddy one is POLISHED TO A MIRROR FINISH and take that into account when developing a competetive product?

RETed 10-24-06 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by classicauto
True, its a shipped price...
BUT - for me, Joe is a few hours away. For higgi's elbow - I paid the 100 dollars, then a 22 dollar duty charge when I picked it up at the post office....thats hardly a "all in" price, sorry.

Yours is a special case.
I bet most U.S. vendors would get slapped a stupid CAN import charge if it got sent to you?
If you were local to hIGGI, I'm sure the price wouldn't be the full $100.



It would take 10 minutes to smooth that out on the mould, its hasn't been done, I would say that if Joe's (R.P.M's) elbow is even within 10bucks over and above I would buy it over Higgi's simply because it looks better. (if its indeed smoother on the outside
That still remains to be seen...


And if he designed it to compete with the Greddy elbow ted, didn't he note the Greddy one is POLISHED TO A MIRROR FINISH and take that into account when developing a competetive product?
Not all GReddy TB adapters come fully polished...


-Ted

classicauto 10-24-06 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by RETed
Yours is a special case.

Well, I guess Im not the special one....everyone in Canada is apparently "special" then.

In whichcase, Joe making these elbows would be a great asset to us north of the border.

Yes the texture remains to be seen as the elbows haven't been made yet. But this is why I made the comment about them being smoother.....so he takes it into consideration when making them....

I wasn't aware that all of the Greddy TB adaptors didn't come fully polished. Either way, I HIGHLY doubt that ANY of them are even nearly as rough as Higgi's elbow.

Im not bashing anything, Im just saying, damb - clean that shit up. If he did hed certainly have a product that would be hard to beat. From the perspective of a person who has already bought his elbow - that my only beef with it.

Nismo Convert86 10-24-06 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by classicauto
Well, I guess Im not the special one....everyone in Canada is apparently "special" then.

Yup, I don't know how many times I have not bought something due to the fact that I will get screwed on shipping, it's usually a UPS deal, but all shipping companies do this. I can't wait to see what they charge me for the rad I just bought.

R.P.M. 10-24-06 12:57 PM

If anyone from the US is worried about having extra fees tacked onto shipping, they really shouldn't be. I would be shipping them through Canada Post, which doesn't charge duty fees ect. Same as when people from the US ship to Canada.....USPS is the way to go.

Madrx7racer 10-26-06 01:53 PM

well, post up a finished elbow and let's decide.........so far my trust is in Higgi's products.............keep us posted.........I am using an NA TB elbow for the time being.

boost_its_what_for_dinner 10-26-06 04:01 PM

im in but need pics

BASTARD 10-26-06 04:40 PM

will it look anything like this... why not make it a 3"

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=192897&stc=1

Madrx7racer 10-26-06 05:07 PM

where did you get that one from?

88rxn/a 10-26-06 05:11 PM

3 inch!!!
FTW!
you have my attention.

BASTARD 10-26-06 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrx7racer
where did you get that one from?

i made it myself out of a 3" 90* from ebay and i used a couple 2" 90* to create the triangluar shape at the TB end

*edit*
I added a picture of the mockup. It would be a lot easer just to buy something like this. I also believe that a 3" would be much better then a 2.5". You can always get a reducer coupler to go from 2.5" pipe to a 3" TB elbow

classicauto 10-26-06 06:20 PM

Thats a pretty wicked design BASTARD, seems like it would flow excellent.

Only problem is that it would be a P/S-delete only elbow. Of course, I suppose Im one the very few who actually still have it....but nonetheless its a nice piece and I vote that Joe makes two designs....one similiar to that for those w/o P/S and one similar to the GReddy for those with.

You've got more work on your hands now Ferguson!!

Madrx7racer 10-26-06 06:22 PM

no p.s. ftw

Longshoe 10-26-06 06:57 PM

im interested

R.P.M. 10-27-06 11:53 AM

Hmmmm....I like the 3" inlet idea (cant believe I never even thought of that LOL)

How about this, I design an TB elbow that has a 3" inlet, that clears the oil filter, oil fill tube and still clears the P/S ?

I'm thinking if you route the I/C piping under the PS pump where the A/C compressor goes.....mind you, you couldn't run A/C then haha.

Keep the ideas coming

13b4me 10-27-06 12:06 PM

I like the idea of the elbow not facing the firewall... If the product is good count me in!

BTW Joe is a good seller from my personal experience... Cheap shipping to the US and fast! :)

Terrh 10-27-06 12:35 PM

my greddy TB isn't polished.

But I sure couldn't shave a cat with it, it's very very nicely well made.

IMO the greddy elbow and piping is P/S delete... it's very nearly brake-master-cyl delete too. I couldn't make my greddy FMIC piping fit nicely without moving my leading coil, cutting a big hole in either side of my car, removing my headlight washer tank, p/s and a/c, and relocating the battery to the rear. By far the most intrusive install I've done into the car.

Joe, I'd buy your part but I am going to FD intake manifolds and FD throttle body. so it won't work for me anymore... I'd be in the market if I hadn't!

Madrx7racer 10-27-06 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by R.P.M.
Hmmmm....I like the 3" inlet idea (cant believe I never even thought of that LOL)

How about this, I design an TB elbow that has a 3" inlet, that clears the oil filter, oil fill tube and still clears the P/S ?

I'm thinking if you route the I/C piping under the PS pump where the A/C compressor goes.....mind you, you couldn't run A/C then haha.

Keep the ideas coming

if you want you can make

1. for ppl WITH power-steering

1. for people WITHOUT power-steering....


I have no AC or PS so i need it to ONLY clear the oil filler neck so I don't have to cut it .


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