well i guess u could take of the fenders? I'm not that good with assesing damage but an educated guess says it looks twisted. the fact the the tire points straight yet is sticking way ot kinda shows that the frame may have moved over 4 inches

another pic

Yes we made the 3:15 train back to boston. My parents didnt say anything they just said I told u not to go to NY.

That really does suck man, im glad to hear your both ok and everytime i see that Tii it makes me want to cry. Hopefully you can get coverage or do something with it, id imagine the frame is probably bent by the looks of the pictures :(

How can we find out if theres frame damage? Thats the most that worries me.

visual inspection. You can also take the diagnal measurements from corner to corner. if they vary from side to side it is bent. The dimensions are in the owners manual or the haynes manual. Sorry to hear about this but glad everyone is ok.

dude you have the worst luck. im sorry about all this. as punishment you need to send me the engine and the tranny out of that car and say ten Hail Marys.

I bought my TII with frame damage, so I learnt a fair bit about em. First things first, jack the up the whole car, jackstands etc. Get out the measuring tape, measure the distant between the frame rails. Just not the front, but the whole car. I'd say there's a very high chance that both rails are bent, probably inwards. There is a round support that connects the 2 rails infront of the radiator, looking at that also lets you get a general impression. I think it's definately fixable, mine was just as bad but hit from the side... Don't remove anything till you deal with insurance, you got a long road ahead of you, sorry to hear about it and good luck!

not to be a materialistic ass, but if u total the car, how much do u want for the motor?

WOOOO HOOOO! the Insurance just gave me the finger! lol im !ucked. basically i paid 1500 a year for jack shit. first off i call right when i get home they say they cant find my policy. they give my a number for some investigator and i call 5 !ucken times no one picks up i call friday nothin. monday they finally pick up and they say its the wrong friggin number that there a grocery distributor. then i call the insurance they give me the same number and just say i dialed wrong and i told what they could do with my car and they said nothin.

what? insurance is refusing your claim? is that what's happening?

what insurance company is this man?
Thats a fuckin rip off..
it's not even me and i'm seriously pissed off!

WTF!

Oh man....This sux...

Sorry guys.

Jarrett

That's horrible. Keep on the insurance company and get a good explaination. THEY work for YOU. You deserve to know everything. You own them , and keep that in mind when you talk to their reps.

BTW- I though in the first post it mentioned that the transportation back was an S5TII? That's an S4 in the pics though...

Damn man, that sucks, sorry a bout the bad turn of luck..

GREG

PS on the bright side, thats a pretty clean looking starion/conquest in the third (I think) picture.

thats a no go! glad they are ok though

so wait, if he was right behind you , on a simple road, did you ask him what the hel happened.???

- James

that conquest was just bought by my friend for 1500 dollars, its got 38,000 original miles! deal of a lifetime!

Did the insurance company pay your claim?

Yeah, let's have an update :)

Whats the name of the ins, so we can all prank call them and spam the crap out of them!~!!

umm buddy... go see a lawyer. Your insurance company is there FOR YOU. They don't refer you to a number that doesnt exist. And if they do, they are a scam artist and legal action MUST BE TAKEN IMMEDIATELY.

welp i only had liability. so they told me they wouldnt do shit for me. my insurance company is liberty mutual. my whole family and the house insurance is liberty mutual and we just canceled them all. FUCK U LIBERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it might not be that bad since the wheels look like they're where they belong. Did the radiator crack? If not, i'd try starting her up and doing a quick tour around the block if the fenders aren't pressing into the wheels. That will tell you real quickly if the frame is bent.

Sorry about your car, but it's not the insurance company's fault that you didn't take out collision. Liability doesn't cover damage to your car in accidents that are your fault. Everyone should read their policy so they know what's covered and what's not. I'm not a fan of insurance companies after managing a body shop for 4 years and having to fight for every nickel we deserved. At the same time, you need to know what is covered and not. If you're not sure, call your agent and have them explain your policy to you.

BTW--the damage to your car is not that bad. With used or aftermarket parts you should be able to keep it on the road. Try dealing with Mike's Towing in Danbury. Mike is a good, honest body man. Maybe have him fix the frame rails & radiator support and rough hang the sheet metal. That should get you back on the road.

Well whats the newest with the car? have you decided what to do ?