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CrossfireCurt 04-07-04 06:43 PM

91 Integra vs 88 GXL win or loose?
 
Alright, so my firend's got a 91 integra with just intake and exhaust on it. Long story short, he challenged me to race, i refused of course because street racing is fucking stupid.
However, i would still kinda like to know who'd beat who here... Mine's a stock GXL with the RB full exhaust... post your opinions.

von 04-07-04 06:49 PM

I raced an Integra once when I first got my car and few weeks into getting my liscence. He was an LS 140hp. Had MSD, Intake and Exaust.

I was stock 89GXL and may have possibly had a 6th port closed but he took me. His rear bumper few feet infront of my front bumper and same outcome the 6 times we raced. Never reved out 3rd fully but I did notice I barely start to catch up around 8krpms before I shifted.

von 04-07-04 06:51 PM

hi
 
If your car is running perfect or stock power pluss an exaust I would say yes you can beat him but who knows unless you do.

WIll say this. No LS would beat me after the mods in my sig.

J-Rat 04-07-04 06:55 PM

I raced in Integra once... Course I have a 13 sec TII...:rolleyes:

CrossfireCurt 04-07-04 06:57 PM

Yeah, it runs great... it doesn't even have 30,000 miles on it yet. :-D

rxseven07 04-07-04 07:07 PM

i know wrong board, but my bro is a 2nd gen owner, i have a gslse 1st gen and i beat a gsr integra once, with exhaust, maybe intake. i beat a 91 hatch with a b16a2 (civic si motor) and beat him from a roll and light, so maybe your guys car is just too damn heavy!and i beat a 02 sentra seR spec V at the track. just my 2 cents.. also my bro has the se 2nd gen with fuel inj taken off, with a 45 side draft, full exhaust and full igniton, wed be dead even through 1st and 2nd gear but in 3rd he would start to pull me. so i dunno.

CrossfireCurt 04-07-04 07:13 PM

I hear they only get like 120 - 130 whp, if anyone has specs for a 91 Integra LS, post em.

Digi7ech 04-07-04 07:20 PM

Well what do you run in the 1/4?

S4 Na's have been in the 15's,16,and 17's.

Both my S4 NA's did low 17's but only 4 months later the engines blew on then too.

I'd say you will hang with it if not beat it.

CrossfireCurt 04-07-04 07:21 PM

eh, haven't timed it yet.. this summer i'll be taking it to a local track and see how it does.

Verbal 04-07-04 08:30 PM


Originally posted by CrossfireCurt
I hear they only get like 120 - 130 whp, if anyone has specs for a 91 Integra LS, post em.

1991 Acura Integra LS,GS
Type: 1.8 L (1834 cc), DOHC, Inline 4 cylinder, 16 valves

Compression ratio: 9.2 : 1

Engine code: B18A1

Horsepower: 130 @ 6000 rpm

Torque: 121 lbs.-ft. @ 5000 rpm

Drive Type: FWD

Redline: 6600 rpm

Max speed: 215 km/h - 134 mph

Km: 168 000

Max Speed for each gear:

1st --> 50 km/h - 31 mph

2nd --> 85 km/h - 53 mph

3rd --> 125 km/h - 78 mph

4th --> 180 km/h - 113 mph

5th --> 215 km/h - 134 mph




Exterior dimensions:

Length: 172.9 in. (4392 mm)

Width: 67.5 in. (1714 mm)

Height: 50.0 in. (1341 mm)

Wheelbase: 100.4 in. (2550 mm)

Track, Front: 58.1 in. (1475 mm)

Track, Rear: 58.1 in. (1475 mm)

Interior dimensions:

Front Headroom: 38.5 in.

Front Leg Room: 41.8 in.

Maximum Seating: 5

Others:

Fuel Capacity: 13.2 US Gallons (approx. 50 Liters)

Weight: 2560 lbs. (1161 Kg)

Weight distribution: 62/38

Steering Type: Speed-sensitive, power assisted, rack-and-pinion





Hows that?


:D

Kai 04-07-04 08:36 PM

Stock for stock, both turn in identical low 16 1/4 times. It's up to the drivers and modifications.

I should also mention as a big Honda/Acura guy myself, the 13B Rotary responds to modifications much better then the Honda B18A1. The RWD only helps this advantage.

MatHadder 04-07-04 09:32 PM

does a head swap count as a modification? because if it does, the b18a responds pretty well to it.

I would say the integra would win, since it is slightly modified, and your car is stock, and becuse it sounds like your friend has probably raced more than you.

MatHadder 04-07-04 09:33 PM

does a head swap count as a modification? because if it does, the b18a responds pretty well to it.

I would say the integra would win, since it is slightly modified, and your car is stock, and becuse it sounds like your friend has probably raced more than you.

Kai 04-07-04 11:10 PM


Originally posted by MatHadder
does a head swap count as a modification? because if it does, the b18a responds pretty well to it.
No, I'm not counting DOHC VTEC PR3 or P72 head swaps ("LS/VTEC" conversions) because to do it right, it costs about as much as a full B18C/B18C1 swap. That aside, the typical I/H/E doesn't do nearly as much for them as it does for us. Our cars also react better to fuel tuning, as the stock speed-density fuel system in Hondas doesn't go as rich up top as ours does.

SPR415 04-07-04 11:56 PM

ahhaa my friend and i raced, i have a 88 GXL and he had 91 integra Ls, i stirahgt launched on him ahaahha i smoked him pretty bad, he was like a car 2/3 of a car away or maybe cause i don't notice when i race but my friend in the car said i smoked him pretty bad...REAR WHEEL DRIVE BABY...

SPR415 04-07-04 11:58 PM

Man, im jus waiting for my NEW car this christmas man... M POWER here i come.... soon.. eat ricers all day!

SOIA 04-07-04 11:58 PM

I raced my friends 91 LS and beat his ass silly (I have an 86 GXL) we both had the same types of mods intakes + exhaust except for he has a header, light to light I can get a car length on him 1/4 mile it's about 3-4

SPR415 04-08-04 12:00 AM

oh and by the way, mines is straight bone stock... don't feel like wasting money on N/A.. but yea can't wait til christmas!!!

PvillKnight7 04-08-04 12:03 AM

Find an empty road and race him pussy.
Im just messin :D
The integra runs about a 16.6 stock and your old 7 runs about a 17.0 stock

"about" but i think he has you beat

hope that helps,
-Ryan-

von 04-08-04 12:39 AM

nah doesent help. 7s get around 15.9-16.5 depeneding on year model options exc. Does that help?

I got 13rwp with just headers on my car. Have the dyno proof. Ofcourse I had lots of intake mods as well.

MatHadder 04-08-04 08:56 PM

well, i hope you have lots of mods if you are making 13rwp.

brokeFC 04-08-04 10:03 PM

i got smoked by a 97 hatchback last night :( i need to replace all my fluids and probably my clutch is having problems too

88IntegraLS 04-08-04 10:25 PM

Integras and FC NAs are both slow (16-17 range). In the forum "general automotive" on this site, search for "automotive performance" and a thread listing stock 1/4 mile times for many cars, including the integras and fcs, will come up. FC NAs and Integras are in the mid - upper 16 second range according that data. *yawn*

CrossfireCurt 04-08-04 10:45 PM

Ah, thanks for the input guys! I guess i'll have to race him to find out...

Eternal_Gamer 04-08-04 10:56 PM

I have a 1991 Coupe that ran hella good before it flooded. Anyways, I raced my friends 95 GSR and he took me by a car. Considering the fact, that he had all basics with act 6 puck. And mine was stock, but ran really good. And yet, there was another NA FC, that took me 3 cars. RX-7=160hp,140tq, 91integra 135 hp, 120tq, im not sure about a series 4 rx-7 tho. I believe its 150hp, 130tq


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