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lazertazer300 04-02-13 05:43 PM

88 Gxl na smokes at high rpms
 
I was wondering since it only smokes at high rpms if I could be anything else besides my oil control rings .?

RotaryRocket88 04-02-13 06:33 PM

The control rings are the most likely culprit. My old NA engine would do the same thing.

lazertazer300 04-02-13 06:38 PM

That's was I was thinking I was wondeeing if it could be anything else looks like I need a rebuild or buy an engine

wthdidusay82 04-03-13 10:04 PM

Them being bad doesn't mean you need a rebuild, it just means you'll go through oil faster.

Check your engines compression before you decide to get a rebuild and see where you stand.

lazertazer300 04-03-13 11:00 PM

Well I just did an oil change about 500 miles ago and it ate through all that oil already havnt done a compression test yet

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 12:22 AM

Wow then they must be pretty bad. I was figuring slightly higher consumption but that's much worse.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 07:55 AM

Yea I have to constantly check the oil

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 08:19 AM

Are you sure you don't have any leaks?

lazertazer300 04-04-13 10:46 AM

That's what I thought but I checked and there was any leaks

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by lazertazer300 (Post 11428705)
That's what I thought but I checked and there was any leaks

How many miles are on the car? I'm sure it must be high. 150k+ range.

What weight oil are you using? I always used 20w50 castrol gtx, unless the temps were very cold in the winter(which depends on where you live).

lazertazer300 04-04-13 11:53 AM

There's Only 86k And It Smoke Crazy At High Rpms

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by lazertazer300 (Post 11428818)
There's Only 86k And It Smoke Crazy At High Rpms

It must of been beaten on and not taken care of well as far as oil changes etc.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 12:28 PM

It Sat For 4 Years The Guy Couldn't Get It Started I Started It And It Drives Amazing Just Eats Oil Like Crazy

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by lazertazer300 (Post 11428862)
It Sat For 4 Years The Guy Couldn't Get It Started I Started It And It Drives Amazing Just Eats Oil Like Crazy

Mine sat for almost a year and it had spun bearings. Mines Turbo, so it was obviously beaten on and not maintained right.

I have a build thread in the builds section if you want to check it out.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 02:03 PM

Alright Yeaa ill check it out I'm sure I need a rebuild or buy one off from a user on here

Acesanugal 04-04-13 02:12 PM

Let us all be logical for a moment, shall we?

When he says his car burned thru all of that oil, that is likely a bit wrong. Surprisingly, a lot of people do not understand how to check their oil, let alone properly. Between the low and full marks on your dipstick, that only represents roughly a quart of oil inside the engine. It does NOT represent the total amount of oil in the engine .

These are questions that people should be asking the OP before they got spewing ignorant assumptions.

Needs a rebuild? Over what? A little oil smoke at the top of the rev range? That is completely normal for a high mileage factory motor.

One of the 7's I pulled out of a field after years of being inoperable smoked like a freight train for several days worth of driving before it only started smoking around 6500 revs.

Jesus H. Christ, the question about what kind of oil the OP is using is the only reply that is worth a damn.

Sent from my ECU using the Check Engine Light.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 02:29 PM

Ok No One Asked You To Get All Smart Or Be An Asshole About The Situation I Know How To Check Oil And I've Talked To People That Actually Rebuild Them And They Also Say I Can Be An Oil Control Ring

Acesanugal 04-04-13 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by lazertazer300 (Post 11429007)
Ok No One Asked You To Get All Smart Or Be An Asshole About The Situation I Know How To Check Oil And I've Talked To People That Actually Rebuild Them And They Also Say I Can Be An Oil Control Ring

Why Do You Feel The Need To Capitalize Every Word In Your Sentences? :scratch:

Yes, you are correct.. It could very well be the oil control rings as they are the most common cause of oil smoke higher up in the rev range. Now, that being said, if your reading comprehension skills are really that terrible that I have to explain this to you, fine:

I wasn't attacking *you*, I was actually defending you to the ignorant flood of responses.

Don't get your panties in a twist, child... :smoker:

lazertazer300 04-04-13 02:57 PM

Well I'm Sorry For Responding That Way It Just Seemed The Way You Was Responding It Was Towards Me

philiptompkins 04-04-13 03:01 PM

Yeah when you said "all that oil" I was wondering how much you meant. Did you run it till the pan was completely dry? Probably not.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 03:26 PM

No didn't run it til it was dry but it was getting very close had to put 2 quarts in

wthdidusay82 04-04-13 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by lazertazer300 (Post 11429059)
No didn't run it til it was dry but it was getting very close had to put 2 quarts in

The entire system holds around 4.5 quarts or so.
I guess I shouldn't have went under the assumption that he knows how to read his dipstick. Ace is right it only represents the last quart that tops off the system.

If he ran it until it was actually empty the engine would have no oil pressure , therefor no lubrication, and oil also contributes to cooling the engine so it will not only have no protection to the internals, it will also cause overheating.

Wouldn't take long before engine failure occurs.

lazertazer300 04-04-13 04:12 PM

I understand that you took it to literall that all the oil was gone was just stating that it lost a llarge amount in short time

StevenL5975 04-05-13 03:26 PM

My 87 Na did similar thing, used 5 quarts per week ... :icon_tdow

lazertazer300 04-05-13 03:31 PM

What did you end up doing rebuild.?


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