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Sponge Bob Square Pants 04-29-04 08:50 PM

Let's get more people replying to this thread so we can have even more misinformation and incorrect comments! :p:

Seriously though, they are almost dead even.
The 1/4 mile times are within 0.2 and 0-60mph is within 0.1 for both cars... shit, the actually engine condition matters more than that, not to mention driver skill.

Think of it like this, 2 identical cars are racing... who is the better driver?

And to the guy that thinks the RX-7 will win based on the fact alone that his Turbo RX beat a Turbo MR2... so what, that has absolutely no relevance at all here.

I Hate Ricers 04-29-04 09:40 PM

How's the first gen MR2 steering compared to the S4 FC?

I've driven Fc's with PS and manual....both ass munch...no feel whatsoever. Detracts from an extremely competent chassis.

So anybody have an anecdote or something?

-grant

Sponge Bob Square Pants 04-29-04 09:53 PM

I don't have any hard numbers comparing the steering, but I have owned both cars in the past.

The MR2 does not use power steering, which is a good thing because it doesn't need it. Very light, near 50/50 weight distribution. Even parallel parking you do not have to exurt more effort than you would with an average power steering system.
One thing that owners note is that you get good road feedback in the MKI MR2 - be it steering, braking, tire control, etc

All good to know, but not relevant to this drag race.

dubrc 04-29-04 10:00 PM

everyone's comparing old cars here, but seriously...they are almost as old as I am. Instead of compairing their specs circa 1985, why not look at the condition and more inportantly driver skill. It don't matter what you drive if you cant drive worth a shit. Of course people and yelling rx-7, this is afterall the rx-7 forum. If you posted this on a MR2/toyota forum, you'd probabily get the same feedback, only in the MR2's favour.

--Paul

rotoboy20 04-29-04 10:31 PM

driver skill driver skill driver skill. fu*king duh already! truthfully i prefer nissan skylines but i cant afford one of those. so for me atleast its not a matter of preference or favour. furthermore, there are a lot more 7's out there that are in better condition than mr2's, well atleast in south carolina. there arnt many 3rd gen mr2's here either, they are usualy well taken care of. mr2's; second gen and older are total turds.
there are a few exceptions, but most are TURDS!

Terrh 04-29-04 10:36 PM

I've driven both.

n/a FC seems quicker to me, especially after 100+km/h.

Cornering wise.. I dunno. if the person in the MR2 knows how to drive it, I don't think that a stock FC could stand a chance. They're friggin go-karts.

rotoboy20 04-29-04 11:00 PM


Originally posted by Sponge Bob Square Pants


Think of it like this, 2 identical cars are racing... who is the better driver?


think of it like THIS, no two cars are identical! its a fact. being a new car salesman, i for one should know. as compared to the numbers in the reviews and tests done by car and driver and all of those other guys, you could have bought two brand new 1986 RX-7 gxl's and i could garentee that one of them will handle better, one will accelerate quicker. same for the mr2

im also sure if these magazine editors had 3 or 4 cars of the same make model and year that numbers between rx-7's and mr2's would be quite different. its all about averaged performance across a board of a few of the same car. all that pertaining to #'s anyway.

which brings us all to the very obvious point that there is allways a better driver. this is what you would call the "duh" statement.

what the young man who started this thread wanted to know was could a 7 beat an mr2 of the same year and asperation. if they are both in good shape i think just between numbers it could be very close. so of course id say whoever got the holeshot would make the kill.

BTW. no offence sponge bob. just wanted to make a point of my own.

-chris;)

Sponge Bob Square Pants 04-29-04 11:33 PM

You just explained what I said ?!?

of course by identical i don't mean "dead even identical test them 1000 times and get 100% exact results all times" .. come on?

That's why I sumed it up in a simple sentence, since most of the posts made have been irelevant or incorrect so far.

jthompson02 04-30-04 12:37 PM

Never driven a MR2 but...

1st and 2nd gear is where our cars shine. through first and second gear I have rolled cars that straight whore me when we got into 3rd. Youll have the jump on him im guessing, our top end is where the power is at, if your buddies car stops pulling up there, theres something wrong with his car.

Turns its all up to your skills, tires and suspension. But I would say in a drag you would win, our gearing is low to make up for our low end torque.


All I can say is serve that little MR2 a nice big helping of rotary power. And tell him youll wait for him when your at the finish line/end of the road

Flipn 05-01-04 08:08 PM

mid engine type cars have the advantage of launching faster than FR cars... Lets just say they are like AWD but they dont break drivetrain parts...

Dom_C 05-01-04 09:30 PM

ok heres a little more info. the mr2 has a ghetto rigged cone filter and a fart can. full cats and stock manifold. My rx7 has cone filter and gutted cats to stock Y pipe. 5 and sith ports are working because i have them hooked in through the air pump instead of the cats it works wonderfully. car now seems to pull till well past red line. oh and some minor weight reduction. does that help anybody? just assume that the drivers are the same skills wise. the question i intended to ask when i posted this was which car is faster. thanks for all the posts guys this is great.

neptuneRX 05-01-04 09:51 PM

oh who gives a ****, are you gonna get a trophy at the end?? tell him to get some plates, and have fun sliding around. Just be smart about it, don't reck your 7 for some stupid pride thing.

ddub 05-01-04 10:11 PM

Whoever the better driver is will win this...

The 86 n/a mr2 runs an 8.4 0-60 and 16.5 1/4mile stock, whereas the 86 FC runs an 8.5 0-60 and 16.5 1/4mile stock. If both cars are stock and everything is working properly on them, then the better driver will win. If either is modded, then who knows.


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