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KidA 03-29-10 05:24 PM

250 HP Non Turbo.. is it possible?
 
discussing this among friends and figured i'd throw it out to the community.. is it possible?

Narfle 03-29-10 05:38 PM

yes.

Brodie121 03-29-10 05:44 PM

possible? yes. streetable? no.

calpatriot 03-29-10 06:03 PM

Racing Beat claims their 51mm Weber carb kit can do 280+ hp on a rotary... but I cannot imagine that the low-end drivability is very good. They also have a progressive Holley 4bbl kit that looks like it would function better over a wider range of driving conditions, but they do not list the horsepower obtained...

http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm

Evil Aviator 03-29-10 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by KidA (Post 9900900)
discussing this among friends and figured i'd throw it out to the community.. is it possible?

http://www.turborx7.com/portingpictures.htm


Originally Posted by calpatriot (Post 9901027)
Racing Beat claims their 51mm Weber carb kit can do 280+ hp on a rotary... but I cannot imagine that the low-end drivability is very good. They also have a progressive Holley 4bbl kit that looks like it would function better over a wider range of driving conditions, but they do not list the horsepower obtained...

http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm

Just to clear up a common misconception, the horsepower ratings are the amount of fuel and air that the carb kits can supply, not the amount of power that you will get by bolting them on a stock engine. The engine still requires a lot of modifications to reach those goals.

This is the Racing Beat application guide for their carb kits:
http://www.racingbeat.com/PDF/intakeguide.pdf

Fuel injection is always superior, of course.

solareon 03-29-10 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by calpatriot (Post 9901027)
Racing Beat claims their 51mm Weber carb kit can do 280+ hp on a rotary... but I cannot imagine that the low-end drivability is very good. They also have a progressive Holley 4bbl kit that looks like it would function better over a wider range of driving conditions, but they do not list the horsepower obtained...

http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm

That is gonna be a peripheral-port. You can't drive that on the street unless you never see a cop ever.

calpatriot 03-29-10 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Evil Aviator (Post 9901046)
http://www.turborx7.com/portingpictures.htm
The engine still requires a lot of modifications to reach those goals.

Agreed. Their website seems to imply that those numbers are what you could expect on a highly modified engine at 10,000 rpm or more.

need RX7 03-29-10 06:19 PM

https://www.rx7club.com/naturally-aspirated-performance-forum-220/make-230rwhp-streetport-13bre-n-818133/

stevensimon 03-29-10 06:28 PM

just add an extra rotor

-Crash- 03-29-10 07:08 PM

yea you can hit 250rwhp, with a full j bridge, IDA's, a stand alone, overhauled fuel system...so no so no so no, why do people keeps asking these questions?

+1 to post count i think...lol

solareon 03-29-10 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by need RX7 (Post 9901071)

Still not 250. And that was with a 13B-RE and custom exhaust tuning

J-Rat 03-30-10 01:47 PM

Sheit son... All you need is a BIG bottle o' NOS. Actually, make that two of them. And you will need them tonight.

ReaperFC3 03-30-10 02:25 PM

why 250 why not 249hp jk well what engine do u have is it a s4 or s5 engine block?

st1llet0 03-30-10 05:30 PM

I'm going with j-rat. Nitrous is going to be the cheapest/easiest way

joeylyrech 03-30-10 05:51 PM

REW or RE block full bridgeported with S5 NA rotors and a downdraft 48 Weber or a Jaytech intake with a 650 double pump holley mechanical secondaries.

PvillKnight7 03-30-10 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by J-Rat (Post 9903082)
Sheit son... All you need is a BIG bottle o' NOS. Actually, make that two of them. And you will need them tonight.

Will overnight parts from japan help make 250hp?

ReaperFC3 03-30-10 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by PvillKnight7 (Post 9903825)
Will overnight parts from japan help make 250hp?

not if he gets a motec system exhaust and in those 10 seconds less he free lol


but back to the topic what are you going to use the car for track? drag? drift? or daily cruiser? to tell you the truth your better of getting a turbo 2 engine for your FC and make easy power then trying to squeez power out of n/a while trying to avoid cops

nemeii 03-31-10 01:18 AM

These past few comments really make me love the RX-7 community =]

some quotes are just timeless...lolz

shm21284 03-31-10 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by need RX7 (Post 9901071)

I was just about to do what you just did... link that thread.

I have driven that car, low end torque is fine, as you can see in the dyno graphs. Actually, its very fun to drive around town. And its completely streetable.

RTRx7 03-31-10 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by PvillKnight7 (Post 9903825)
Will overnight parts from japan help make 250hp?

Maybe. Maybe not. But he'll run 9s.

ReaperFC3 03-31-10 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by RTRx7 (Post 9905255)
Maybe. Maybe not. But he'll run 9s.

not if torreto shows up :lol:

RTRx7 03-31-10 12:20 PM

In that 2jz fd ROFL

GreatShamanGT 03-31-10 12:30 PM

Don't forget to double clutch

RTRx7 03-31-10 01:19 PM

Yeah. It sucks to blow the welds on the intake then you gotta go replace those piston rings.

frijolee 03-31-10 03:18 PM

Hey, don't trash talk the piston rings yo.

I'm a >250 whp non turbo.


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